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UVM Offseason Thread - building for a 3rd Straight Bid

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Just my opinion......
Another season ends without the coveted hardware, but that is the reality for all but one team every year.

Lots of progress is being made year over year, with the team now looking to threepeat in the NC$$ tourney.

So much of that will depend on the early season OOC record, as we saw this past year.

Anyone have an early read into what the OOC schedule looks like?
 
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I read somewhere quoting Sneddon saying that Denver will come here and we will go to Minn. That would be AWESOME. Love playing vs the WCHA.

Also, the last two years UVM has lost to the eventual national champion (BU last year and BC the year before that) to end their season. I would like to see a Hockey East team win but it would say a lot for Vermont's program if they only get knocked out by the best team in the country. Then again, if BC won it would also say a lot due to our record vs them this year.
 
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adidasjerry said:
I read somewhere quoting Sneddon saying that Denver will come here and we will go to Minn. That would be AWESOME. Love playing vs the WCHA.
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Denver comes to the Gut to finish the 2 year commitment. Trip to Minnesota I was told is to Duluth (not 100% sure of the source though since they came for the Cat Cup this year). Gophers is 2 years from now, basically replacing Denver which replaced Miami of Ohio. If that is true...the trip to Duluth, the Denver and Duluth series would be 4 of the 7 out of conference games. 2 games for the Cat Cup holiday tourney is 6 meaning only 1 other non conference foe.
 
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Nice to be an undrafted free agent:

Toronto Maple Leafs Sign Brayden Irwin
by PPP on Mar 28, 2010 12:28 PM EDT in News

Contrary to reports from the CBC the Toronto Maple Leafs did not sign Brady Irwin. Rather, the Toronto Maple Leafs signed Brayden Irwin from the University of Vermont Catamounts.

Link to rest of the story - http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2010/3/28/1393950/toronto-maple-leafs-sign-brayden
 
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snwbrdr said:
2. How much do this years freshmen improve next year? Stalburg had more impact as a freshman this year than Vic did as a freshman (although similar points) - if he improves much he will be an impact player in the league the next three years. I also expect McCarthy and Pacan to step up a notch next year with more weight training and another year of maturity - they are both relatively young freshmen.
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Stalberg II actually had a better year then Vik. Vik's freshman campaign ended with 15 points in 39 games, or .385 ppg. Seb, ended this season with 19 points in 36 games or .528 ppg. When you actually look at the Stalberg Jr's season he really turned it on in the second half. His production next year I expect will blow Vik's sophmore year away.

McCarthy ended with 17points in 35 games (.488 ppg) and Pacan with 14 in 39 games.


In comparison, last season there was only Marshall with 4-5 points,
in 2007-2008 the three top freshman scorers were Dowing (11) Stacey (10) Atkinson (4)
In 2006-2007 the top 3 freshman were Irwin (19), Vock (15) Vik (15).

By the numbers this is the best freshman class in since Lenes, Strong, Carlson.

Interesting to me was also the overall goals. It really seemed as the team was offensively challenged, but it wasn't that bad :

2009-2010 : 113g in 39g ( 2.89 GPG )
2008-2009 : 121g in 39g ( 3.10 GPG )
2007-2008 : 88g in 39g ( 2.25 GPG )
2006-2007 : 87g in 39g ( 2.23 GPG )
2005-2006 : 97g in 38g ( 2.55 GPG )

Its a wonder UVM won any games in 2005-2008, guess its a testament to Fallon.

Anyways, hope these guys really turn it up over the summer and come ready for next season.

Just for interest, (I seem to be on a stats kick this morning) the past 2 classes have increased their production by 8p, 19pts, and 14 pts from freshman to sophmore years. I am skipping last year since the only Forward was Marshall.
 
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Great to see Irwin get a contract. He definitely had a big year after a very disappointing Junior season. Its well deserved.

Madore also got HE defensive player of the week for his performance against Wisc. so congrats to him as well.
 
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It looks as if Irwin will be on the Mapleleafs roster for the final games of the season. Good for him, although no word yet if Stalberg will be a linemate or not.

I find it interesting that the likes of Marcou and Butler got signed and went to their respective minor league teams while Irwin was held up at the NHL level. I like Irwin, but not what I expected.

The UVM website has noted that Sneddon has had a player go pro every year since he took over at UVM. Congrats to Sneddon for being able to recruit some top tiered talent.
 
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And let's hope we don't have a player go pro early this year like we did with Mitchell and Staberg two of the last three years. Nice to have the talent to make that a risk, but we need the strength at D next year while the first and second year forwards gel.

UVM will have another very solid SoS next season in the OOC games due to playing Denver and whomever in Minnesota.

Would be a bummer to see either Dartmouth or SLU drop off the schedule but with only 9 OOC games available you would figure one of them is dropping off - or playing in the Catamount cup....
 
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Personally, I would rather have us keep Dartmouth and drop SLU. Dartmouth games are more exciting/competitive and their proximity helps. Also, I feel like Dartmouth has the better chance of being a top 25 team than SLU. Dartmouth is more well known too.
 
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I would disagree with you on the Dartmouth vs. SLU comments except that Dartmouth is better proximity for Burlington area fans seeing the every other year away game and that Dartmouth as a SCHOOL is more well know than SLU.

In terms of hockey, on balance year in and year out, I would say that SLU is superior competition and more likely to help the SOS of UVM.
 
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Nice seeing Irwin getting out there early. What is the count now of former UVM players currently in the NHL?

Thomas
St Louis
Sharp
Mitchell
Stalberg


Who am I missing?
 
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snwbrdr said:
I would disagree with you on the Dartmouth vs. SLU comments except that Dartmouth is better proximity for Burlington area fans seeing the every other year away game and that Dartmouth as a SCHOOL is more well know than SLU.

In terms of hockey, on balance year in and year out, I would say that SLU is superior competition and more likely to help the SOS of UVM.
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Agreed... The Big Green need to step it up in the coming years as we need better quality...

Hearing its North Dakota after the Minn series...

I believe,that we lose the studs their Junior year because when they are drafted they only have x years before they become free agents again, thus if the team wants them they make a decent offer and they are gone.. I may be wrong on this so don't flambaste me.. :cool:
 
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snwbrdr said:
but with only 9 OOC games available you would figure one of them is dropping off - or playing in the Catamount cup....
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that would make sense for Dartmouth or SLU to play in the Cat Cup if they drop from the schedule. Teams can play 34 games in NCAA unless they go to Alaska then they get 36. So with 27 conference games, that leave only 7 out of conference games.
 
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UVM made an "unofficial" commitment to play DC every year and continue that rivalry. Doesn't mean they can't drop DC, but I would be surprised if they did. I would think SLU goes, I like those games but, I think 2 games against ECAC foe is enough. DC and Yale seem to be the two for now, if they are going to play 3 I think they need to look to add Cornell, as Yale and Cornell seem to be the two mostly likely to be a TUC at the end of the year.



A note about the Maple Leafs .... Irwin was a scratch for last nights game, but is said to be in the lineup on either Thurs or Sat. I would expect Thurs now that the Leafs are officially eliminated. On a bright note, Stalberg scored both Toronto goals last night in the 3-2 loss, giving him 11 pts in 35 games, which is better then Mitchell's rookie season as far as ppg. (20 in 82). Nice to see some former Cat's playing in the Bigs.
 
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I don't think UVM will see Yale again any time soon in the RS schedule. I think this past season's Monday night game was a last minute situation for both teams that helped them both fill out their schedules. It was just luck that they were both strong TUC's.

UVM's schedule was a mess this year in the first half with all those one game weekends and/or Friday/Sunday afternoon games. I felt like that hurt the team and impaired their ability to get consistent momentum going. I suppose with this goofy 3 game schedule in HE they don't have to much choice than have a messed up schedule like that for a good chunk of the season. That is the only thing I miss from the ECAC days is the consistent Friday/Saturday night game schedule for most of the season.

I think those Sunday afternoon home games really hurt the team as the fans are never as jacked up on a Sunday afternoon (after two nights of hard drinking) as they are on a Friday or Saturday night at 7 (just winding it up for the hard night of partying). Plus, they often conflict with the RS Patriots/Giants or NFL playoff games and that hurts attendance.

Hopefully this upcoming season the schedule will be a little more consistent.
 
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snwbrdr said:
I don't think UVM will see Yale again any time soon in the RS schedule. I think this past season's Monday night game was a last minute situation for both teams that helped them both fill out their schedules. It was just luck that they were both strong TUC's.

UVM's schedule was a mess this year in the first half with all those one game weekends and/or Friday/Sunday afternoon games. I felt like that hurt the team and impaired their ability to get consistent momentum going. I suppose with this goofy 3 game schedule in HE they don't have to much choice than have a messed up schedule like that for a good chunk of the season. That is the only thing I miss from the ECAC days is the consistent Friday/Saturday night game schedule for most of the season.

I think those Sunday afternoon home games really hurt the team as the fans are never as jacked up on a Sunday afternoon (after two nights of hard drinking) as they are on a Friday or Saturday night at 7 (just winding it up for the hard night of partying). Plus, they often conflict with the RS Patriots/Giants or NFL playoff games and that hurts attendance.

Hopefully this upcoming season the schedule will be a little more consistent.
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I still prefer SLU over Dartmouth for scheduling. I think they will stay the better team for awhile.
 
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http://www.minnesotahockeyjournal.co...8_college.html

Great article, and something that UVM is starting to suffer from now that they are getting NHL grade talent in their recruiting classes.....

Good problem to have, but a problem nonetheless.....

Hopefully Coach Sneddon can stem the tide of losing qualified players too early.... And before the player would truly benefit from the move.

We do tend to take players early - McCarthy, Pacan - so that should help limit early losses until at least the end of their Junior season generally.

Will be interesting if Nyquist leaves Maine early. He would certainly be a candidate to go early....
 
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