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Utica College 2016/2017
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PSUChamps2001
Member of the REAL Zoo Crew
Most smart people take the time to learn and understand the process, not go by what someone thinks it should be...thanks for caring buddy.... go drown yourself in your KRACH if it makes you feel better come selection time when you're at home wondering why teams got in and didn't when the rules/process was right in front of you to read and understand (maybe) but you'd rather submerge yourself in the hogwash KRACH false advertising brought to you by the Fishman...what ever makes you feel better...
Wow....lets take a breath. I'm not sure how selection takes place. USCHO and D3 hockey polls hold no sway. KRATCH the same. But I guess the point is that people who DO try to predict things with their polls and stuff are taking notice of UC again, and if a UC fan, what's not to like about that? Will they make it? Who knows. They had a great start a weak middle and now on the upswing again. Of course I would love to see it happen as that home cooking would be FANtastic!!!
Re: Utica College 2016/2017
You need to understand the context here. One of your posters has insisted for years that that KRACH is the be-all-end-all of ratings even though the selection procedure has been explained to him a number of times. KRACH has nothing to the criteria for NCAA selection, which are Winning percentage, Strength of Schedule (Opponents' W-L-T record and Opponents' Opponents' W-L-T record), records against NCAA ranked teams, comparison against other teams with respect to head to head record and records against common opponents). These are the tools that the NCAA uses to develop their rankings, which will appear next week. The argument is because the person in question has had a long time to understand how the system works, but has not taken the effort to understand it, but falls back to citing KRACH.
You need to understand the context here. One of your posters has insisted for years that that KRACH is the be-all-end-all of ratings even though the selection procedure has been explained to him a number of times. KRACH has nothing to the criteria for NCAA selection, which are Winning percentage, Strength of Schedule (Opponents' W-L-T record and Opponents' Opponents' W-L-T record), records against NCAA ranked teams, comparison against other teams with respect to head to head record and records against common opponents). These are the tools that the NCAA uses to develop their rankings, which will appear next week. The argument is because the person in question has had a long time to understand how the system works, but has not taken the effort to understand it, but falls back to citing KRACH.
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Re: Utica College 2016/2017
You and PSUC love to say otherwise, but I have never said that the AL selections were based on the KRACH. All I've ever said is that, as of late, the selections have been very close to what that statistical model predicted. (And, Norwich is #1 in that metric, just as they so often were in yours, but with an actual body of transparent/logical evidence to support that ranking..! I'd think you'd be delighted, FCS.)
Annoying trolls aside, fellow UC fans, our guys are on a roll. These games were against bad teams, but were important not to lose. UC would probably get one of the last Pool C spots if the season ended today. The W tourney will be a tough row to hoe, but a win-out there pretty-much guarantees a berth, IMO. Good to see Heenan letting the dogs run.
You and PSUC love to say otherwise, but I have never said that the AL selections were based on the KRACH. All I've ever said is that, as of late, the selections have been very close to what that statistical model predicted. (And, Norwich is #1 in that metric, just as they so often were in yours, but with an actual body of transparent/logical evidence to support that ranking..! I'd think you'd be delighted, FCS.)
Annoying trolls aside, fellow UC fans, our guys are on a roll. These games were against bad teams, but were important not to lose. UC would probably get one of the last Pool C spots if the season ended today. The W tourney will be a tough row to hoe, but a win-out there pretty-much guarantees a berth, IMO. Good to see Heenan letting the dogs run.
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Wow, you guys are sponsoring the tourney? Not very friendly. Welcome to Utica fellas.
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
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Birdwatcher
Registered User
Re: Utica College 2016/2017
I wonder what Schultz & Dooley would think....They were always friendly.
I wonder what Schultz & Dooley would think....They were always friendly.
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Remember back in January when Oswego smoked Utica, that was fun. Never have I been so happy to have an opposing teams fan silenced. He was rude and highly inappropriate (same as the fans I've experienced attending games at the AUD). As well as their coach, highly inappropriate in his language used towards the team/refs/ uncalled for, not to mention his extremely dirty style of play which is clearly coached (lots of extra hits to the head after a player is checked down). I can say that the NCAA will most likely regret the decision to hold the frozen 4 there if their fan base comes out.
Something definitely in the Utica Club and Matt's Beer out there, ever drank the stuff? It explains a lot.
Remember back in January when Oswego smoked Utica, that was fun. Never have I been so happy to have an opposing teams fan silenced. He was rude and highly inappropriate (same as the fans I've experienced attending games at the AUD). As well as their coach, highly inappropriate in his language used towards the team/refs/ uncalled for, not to mention his extremely dirty style of play which is clearly coached (lots of extra hits to the head after a player is checked down). I can say that the NCAA will most likely regret the decision to hold the frozen 4 there if their fan base comes out.
Something definitely in the Utica Club and Matt's Beer out there, ever drank the stuff? It explains a lot.
Birdwatcher
Registered User
Re: Utica College 2016/2017
Had my share of Maximus Super at College Beer Blasts back in the 70s....25 cents a can...packed a wallop !
Had my share of Maximus Super at College Beer Blasts back in the 70s....25 cents a can...packed a wallop !
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Re: Utica College 2016/2017
Wow, here comes another wave of trolls... Will you feel better if we bake you a nice cake?
Please go back where you came from. Oswego is a very good team that is likely (IMO) to wind-up in Utica. No one here has said otherwise. What's with the cheap shots?
Wow, here comes another wave of trolls... Will you feel better if we bake you a nice cake?
Please go back where you came from. Oswego is a very good team that is likely (IMO) to wind-up in Utica. No one here has said otherwise. What's with the cheap shots?
LakerEagleLover
New member
Re: Utica College 2016/2017
Changing the subject a bit...hotel recommendations for Frigid Four?
Changing the subject a bit...hotel recommendations for Frigid Four?
Birdwatcher
Registered User
Re: Utica College 2016/2017
I did a search and there is a Days Inn less than a mile from the Aud
I did a search and there is a Days Inn less than a mile from the Aud
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Re: Utica College 2016/2017
Depends on what you want to spend, but the Red Roof is very handy to The Aud and to a bunch of eateries. Right off the Thruway, too. I have only stayed there out of, er, "convenience", but have found it to be clean, quiet and safe. (And cheap
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Depends on what you want to spend, but the Red Roof is very handy to The Aud and to a bunch of eateries. Right off the Thruway, too. I have only stayed there out of, er, "convenience", but have found it to be clean, quiet and safe. (And cheap
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Re: Utica College 2016/2017
There has been quite a building splurge in the area between the thruway exit and the Aud, perhaps in (hopeful) preparation for NanoUtica. There is a newer Hampton Inn, a new Holiday Inn Express, and a new Fairfield Inn on north Genesee street. I am sure that they are on the pricey side, however. Downtown is the Radison and the (historic and perhaps haunted) Hotel Utica, both are walking distance to the Aud.
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Laker Ranger
Lakers Maritime Academy Grad
Re: Utica College 2016/2017
Are there any other festivals, celebrations, or special-events-of-a-scheduled-nature in Utica for the Frigid Four weekend that could tighten lodging availability?
Are there any other festivals, celebrations, or special-events-of-a-scheduled-nature in Utica for the Frigid Four weekend that could tighten lodging availability?
Radisson downtown is within walking distance. Hotel Utica,which just switched to days inn franchise I think, is even closer and very historic. Plenty of places on Genesee st over the bridge to the north (you would actually exit thruway there) Holiday inn, red roof, Hampton. Also holiday inn up on burr stone by the college and a ramada near to that. Maybe 10 minutes to aud. Also a Hampton suites on route 840 but maybe a bit tougher to get in and out of. Hope you come and enjoy our community. Great Italian (and other) food.
Well Oz, I have seen some pretty shabby conduct by some UC fans at away games I must admit. Home games...well...not seen it in my section.But if you come (and I hope you do) then I hope I run into you because I am always interested in welcoming and speaking with opposing fans/students/parents. And I think you will find most people there will be passionate if UC in it, but friendly to all guests. BTW, Matts no longer made, but UC is along with Saranac products. I especially like the coffee lager and the caramel porter.
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Hotel Utica is going to become a DoubleTree by Hilton. The Days Inn is a different re-branded motel on Genesee.
Hotel Utica is going to become a DoubleTree by Hilton. The Days Inn is a different re-branded motel on Genesee.