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USCHO Music Thread 3: They Heard Me Singing
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Gurtholfin
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Re: USCHO Music Thread 3: They Heard Me Singing
P.M. Dawn - The Bliss Album
Definitely not depressing.
P.M. Dawn - The Bliss Album
Definitely not depressing.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: USCHO Music Thread 3: They Heard Me Singing
If kids are making music that you and I would like, they're doing it wrong.
The new should always be reviled by the old. We each have our role in this play.
If kids are making music that you and I would like, they're doing it wrong.
The new should always be reviled by the old. We each have our role in this play.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: USCHO Music Thread 3: They Heard Me Singing
Oompf dat. So long as there's new music being released, there's experimentation with new styles or even simple twists on old styles. True artists (not the reproductions trying to hitch their wagons) are as varied as you can imagine, and some of them will stumble across new genres that will hit a spot with older generations, so long as the physically addled are not simply crotchety curmudgeons for sake of being crotchety curmudgeons.
Oompf dat. So long as there's new music being released, there's experimentation with new styles or even simple twists on old styles. True artists (not the reproductions trying to hitch their wagons) are as varied as you can imagine, and some of them will stumble across new genres that will hit a spot with older generations, so long as the physically addled are not simply crotchety curmudgeons for sake of being crotchety curmudgeons.
MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
P.M. Dawn - The Bliss Album
Definitely not depressing.
Cloud Cult: Love
This is not depressing.
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Gurtholfin
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Re: USCHO Music Thread 3: They Heard Me Singing
Yeah... there's plenty of new stuff that I like.
Yeah... there's plenty of new stuff that I like.
rufus
rock and roller
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Yeah, but it should be reviled for a reason, not because it's wimpy and lame. One of my Facebook friends is a former DJ from WFNX in Boston, was part of the best morning show evah. Course, he was the lamest part of that morning show. He's now at some IheartRadio station in Richmond, VA, and whenever he posts a link to a band that's playing that night, or stopped by the studio, I'm like, meh. When did "alternative" rock get so mellow and dainty, and so utterly lacking in any sort of balls. Everybody sounds like The Killers, but even less rocking, and less melodic. It's all so mid-tempo, and nondescript, and dull. What happened to rock?
Yeah, but it should be reviled for a reason, not because it's wimpy and lame. One of my Facebook friends is a former DJ from WFNX in Boston, was part of the best morning show evah. Course, he was the lamest part of that morning show. He's now at some IheartRadio station in Richmond, VA, and whenever he posts a link to a band that's playing that night, or stopped by the studio, I'm like, meh. When did "alternative" rock get so mellow and dainty, and so utterly lacking in any sort of balls. Everybody sounds like The Killers, but even less rocking, and less melodic. It's all so mid-tempo, and nondescript, and dull. What happened to rock?
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Gurtholfin
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What happened to rock?
Hip hop happened to rock.
My kid's a junior in HS right now and listens to music all the time. Roughly 90% of what he chooses to listen to is hip hop or rap.
He's reasonably popular and a lot of kids (boys & girls) stop by the house to hang out. They ALL listen to the same stuff and I have yet to pick out that cool aloof alternative kid with a Misfits patch on his jacket who is into the latest underground cool stuff. That kid doesn't exist as far as I can tell.
This carries over to his sports teams too as all you hear from the locker room is the latest hip hop songs.
In addition, several of his teammates are recording their own stuff - and it ain't too bad. They're not picking up guitars and forming a band... they're recording tracks in their basements on a computer.
There's also kids in the city who are putting out EPs that sound really professional. I'm surprised at how good it is and then my kid will tell me that so and so is a senior at West. I be all like, "DAYUM!!"
Hip hop is this generation's soundtrack - or at least appears to be from the small sample size that I'm around.
To your point of everything that's called alternative these days being soft, I agree. My wife listens to a lot of that crap as do all kinds of 30-50 somethings across the country. I call it adult contemporary - and maybe that's the actual term. I guess it's a way for aging folks to still feel as though they're listening to something cool.
I hate most of it coz like you, I need more of an edge to (most of) my music.
It's out there. I just have to look harder to find it these days and it's fewer and further between.
Hopefully a correction is coming. Music usually corrects itself and we're overdue.
What happened to rock?
Hip hop happened to rock.
My kid's a junior in HS right now and listens to music all the time. Roughly 90% of what he chooses to listen to is hip hop or rap.
He's reasonably popular and a lot of kids (boys & girls) stop by the house to hang out. They ALL listen to the same stuff and I have yet to pick out that cool aloof alternative kid with a Misfits patch on his jacket who is into the latest underground cool stuff. That kid doesn't exist as far as I can tell.
This carries over to his sports teams too as all you hear from the locker room is the latest hip hop songs.
In addition, several of his teammates are recording their own stuff - and it ain't too bad. They're not picking up guitars and forming a band... they're recording tracks in their basements on a computer.
There's also kids in the city who are putting out EPs that sound really professional. I'm surprised at how good it is and then my kid will tell me that so and so is a senior at West. I be all like, "DAYUM!!"
Hip hop is this generation's soundtrack - or at least appears to be from the small sample size that I'm around.
To your point of everything that's called alternative these days being soft, I agree. My wife listens to a lot of that crap as do all kinds of 30-50 somethings across the country. I call it adult contemporary - and maybe that's the actual term. I guess it's a way for aging folks to still feel as though they're listening to something cool.
I hate most of it coz like you, I need more of an edge to (most of) my music.
It's out there. I just have to look harder to find it these days and it's fewer and further between.
Hopefully a correction is coming. Music usually corrects itself and we're overdue.
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FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: USCHO Music Thread 3: They Heard Me Singing
I've said that before myself, but I think those days are over now. Back when the "trend cycles" ruled the roost, it was because the record companies had a monopoly on distribution and could force whatever down people's throats until they were sick of it and demanded something new.
Today, thanks to the Internet and digital recording, there's no true underground or insular scenes for "a sound" to develop anymore. There's a niche available for everyone who runs a search, and people can stay in their little silos. There's no more going over to friend's houses to listen to new albums, no more trading mix tapes, etc. Worst of all, grade school music programs keep getting cut back, so the number of kids bothering to pick up an instrument, ANY instrument, has declined.
I've said that before myself, but I think those days are over now. Back when the "trend cycles" ruled the roost, it was because the record companies had a monopoly on distribution and could force whatever down people's throats until they were sick of it and demanded something new.
Today, thanks to the Internet and digital recording, there's no true underground or insular scenes for "a sound" to develop anymore. There's a niche available for everyone who runs a search, and people can stay in their little silos. There's no more going over to friend's houses to listen to new albums, no more trading mix tapes, etc. Worst of all, grade school music programs keep getting cut back, so the number of kids bothering to pick up an instrument, ANY instrument, has declined.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: USCHO Music Thread 3: They Heard Me Singing
Also, a lot of what we considered alt rock back in the day has just been transferred to the rock genre. 93X used to be the station where you'd listen strictly to hard rock music in this market, but the ownership group changed that, making it just a rock station now. So you'll hear the occasional Beck, Weezer, The Killers, and so on. Alt rock has basically just become what indie rock once was, and the good stuff is few and far between.
There are two alt rock stations in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area now, unless one of them changed formats yet again. At any rate, the two stations sound completely different at times, depending upon who's the DJ. Thankfully, both stations have the sense to mix in older stuff with the newer songs being released. I'd say that of the new stuff, it's about 50% junk, 25% not to my taste, and the remaining 25% I like, and only a small portion of that I'm willing to spend money to support.
Also, a lot of what we considered alt rock back in the day has just been transferred to the rock genre. 93X used to be the station where you'd listen strictly to hard rock music in this market, but the ownership group changed that, making it just a rock station now. So you'll hear the occasional Beck, Weezer, The Killers, and so on. Alt rock has basically just become what indie rock once was, and the good stuff is few and far between.
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Gurtholfin
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Re: USCHO Music Thread 3: They Heard Me Singing
Good points.
Hadn't really considered all of that and you lay out a good case.
The bolded part makes me particularly sad.
Good points.
Hadn't really considered all of that and you lay out a good case.
The bolded part makes me particularly sad.
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solovsfett
Registered User
Re: USCHO Music Thread 3: They Heard Me Singing
I think you're 100% correct with regard to major labels, however there was, is and likely always will be an underground for you to explore whether it's hip-hop or rock or punk etc. I ran a small independent record label for 12 years. 3-4 of the bands we released with achieved some critical acclaim (NPR's The Story, Alternative Press, Magnet, Washington Post, Chicago Sun-Times, Journal-Sentinel, Buddyhead, Dallas Observer, baeblemusic, Onion A.V. CLub and others) but largely our bands were more underground,some wrote songs that were a hybrid of punk and rock so they straddled a line that was too aggressive and rockin' for indie rock kids and too melodic for some of the more punk or metal fans. there is a wealth of great and unheralded rock/indie/country/hip-hop out there for you,... it's more that there's sooooooo many more bands due to the ease of recording etc that you have to wade through a million more layers to find what you like, OR find the website/zine/blog/twitter feed etc where the person behind it generally hits home runs for you when they recommend bands.
I mean this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXRviuL6vMY - I'd rather jump off the Sears (err Willis) Tower than hear that again
anyway...for those of you inclined to check out new stuff here are some friends of mine who are **** good
here goes
wanna band that's part punk, part goth?
We Are Hex from Indianapolis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C8M9mrxp9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOxLLg2IIG4
want goth-y with stabs of rock?
Nervous Curtains from Dallas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvqkCoSj_KI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUinTPx614k
noise rock?
IfIHadAHiFi from Milwaukee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d9OIy-yc08
Police Teeth from Seattle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SVAnS2Yf7s
WAXEATER from Louisville
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OYT6sLr09g
rock?
System and Station from Portland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4hPLAGNZWM
Trophy Wives from Louisville
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7TeTJdLcr4
singer-songwriter?
The Gunshy from Chicago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGlMzqdlYqM
more friends
The Rutabega
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69PPaE1oqYk
Nonagon
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEfqFMkYseF3lc1sRIYycGw
also for a newer punk band check out Midwives from Milwaukee. For an indie-punky type vibe with some synth thrown in check out Dogs In Ecstasy on bandcamp, maybe it's a terrible name for a band but the songs are as good as the name is weird
sorry for blowing the thread up friends...just my .02 here
I think you're 100% correct with regard to major labels, however there was, is and likely always will be an underground for you to explore whether it's hip-hop or rock or punk etc. I ran a small independent record label for 12 years. 3-4 of the bands we released with achieved some critical acclaim (NPR's The Story, Alternative Press, Magnet, Washington Post, Chicago Sun-Times, Journal-Sentinel, Buddyhead, Dallas Observer, baeblemusic, Onion A.V. CLub and others) but largely our bands were more underground,some wrote songs that were a hybrid of punk and rock so they straddled a line that was too aggressive and rockin' for indie rock kids and too melodic for some of the more punk or metal fans. there is a wealth of great and unheralded rock/indie/country/hip-hop out there for you,... it's more that there's sooooooo many more bands due to the ease of recording etc that you have to wade through a million more layers to find what you like, OR find the website/zine/blog/twitter feed etc where the person behind it generally hits home runs for you when they recommend bands.
I mean this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXRviuL6vMY - I'd rather jump off the Sears (err Willis) Tower than hear that again
anyway...for those of you inclined to check out new stuff here are some friends of mine who are **** good
here goes
wanna band that's part punk, part goth?
We Are Hex from Indianapolis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C8M9mrxp9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOxLLg2IIG4
want goth-y with stabs of rock?
Nervous Curtains from Dallas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvqkCoSj_KI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUinTPx614k
noise rock?
IfIHadAHiFi from Milwaukee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d9OIy-yc08
Police Teeth from Seattle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SVAnS2Yf7s
WAXEATER from Louisville
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OYT6sLr09g
rock?
System and Station from Portland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4hPLAGNZWM
Trophy Wives from Louisville
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7TeTJdLcr4
singer-songwriter?
The Gunshy from Chicago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGlMzqdlYqM
more friends
The Rutabega
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69PPaE1oqYk
Nonagon
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEfqFMkYseF3lc1sRIYycGw
also for a newer punk band check out Midwives from Milwaukee. For an indie-punky type vibe with some synth thrown in check out Dogs In Ecstasy on bandcamp, maybe it's a terrible name for a band but the songs are as good as the name is weird
sorry for blowing the thread up friends...just my .02 here
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Re: USCHO Music Thread 3: They Heard Me Singing
There's plenty of new rock with an edge but you won't hear it on the radio. Even in the heyday of alternative when there were actual alternative stations, said stations changed formats more times than I can count and often were at times tame compared with what we listened to beyond their catalog. I don't find as much as I used to due to time constraints, but thanks to the beauty of the Internet, the local library (when I was still in town), iHeart, RS, Spin, last.fm, etc I am still able to find new and viable artists.
There's plenty of new rock with an edge but you won't hear it on the radio. Even in the heyday of alternative when there were actual alternative stations, said stations changed formats more times than I can count and often were at times tame compared with what we listened to beyond their catalog. I don't find as much as I used to due to time constraints, but thanks to the beauty of the Internet, the local library (when I was still in town), iHeart, RS, Spin, last.fm, etc I am still able to find new and viable artists.
Re: USCHO Music Thread 3: They Heard Me Singing
There are a few songs I really like (feel guilty about it, but I like 'em). For example "All About That Bass" by Megan Trainer or however you spell it is catchy. I dig it. And that Bruno Mars song that was huge. And of course, "SOB" by Nathaniel Raitcliff (although he himself has been around for quite a while).
There are a few songs I really like (feel guilty about it, but I like 'em). For example "All About That Bass" by Megan Trainer or however you spell it is catchy. I dig it. And that Bruno Mars song that was huge. And of course, "SOB" by Nathaniel Raitcliff (although he himself has been around for quite a while).
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: USCHO Music Thread 3: They Heard Me Singing
And there is also this, now classic parody:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_36jyGzqm4
And there is also this, now classic parody:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_36jyGzqm4
solovsfett
Registered User
Re: USCHO Music Thread 3: They Heard Me Singing
Listened to the Living Colour version of Prince's "17 Days" today and was reminded of how amazing Corey Glover's vocals generally are...despite this being an understated cover he shines and it led me down the rabbit hole of Living Colour videos...woot!
Listened to the Living Colour version of Prince's "17 Days" today and was reminded of how amazing Corey Glover's vocals generally are...despite this being an understated cover he shines and it led me down the rabbit hole of Living Colour videos...woot!
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Gurtholfin
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Was just commenting to my wife yesterday (after catching the end of PR on VH1) that Purple Rain is a very similar song to Comfortably Numb. Seems that David would agree. A little clunky on the transition, but a cool tribute at last night's show nonetheless.
Of course we can't link Youtube videos anymore, but search Gilmour and Prince and it should come up.
Was just commenting to my wife yesterday (after catching the end of PR on VH1) that Purple Rain is a very similar song to Comfortably Numb. Seems that David would agree. A little clunky on the transition, but a cool tribute at last night's show nonetheless.
Of course we can't link Youtube videos anymore, but search Gilmour and Prince and it should come up.
rufus
rock and roller
Re: USCHO Music Thread 3: They Heard Me Singing
So I picked up Trouble Boys at the local bookstore yesterday, and then spent two hours in the parking lot just scanning some stuff, mostly the ending chapters concerning what the band members did post-breakup and the recent reunion tour. Looks like it's gonna be a truly great read.
So I picked up Trouble Boys at the local bookstore yesterday, and then spent two hours in the parking lot just scanning some stuff, mostly the ending chapters concerning what the band members did post-breakup and the recent reunion tour. Looks like it's gonna be a truly great read.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
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Can someone with a more refined ear than mine explain to my why Taurus is going after Led Zeppelin? I'm listening to this video here - link - where someone put together about 20 songs that all use the same chord progression, going all the way back to Bach (who's not named as a defendant). One of the songs included is from a band named Cartoone, Ice Cream Dreams, for which Jimmy Page played as a session guitarist during its recording. That recording pre-dated LZ's tour with Taurus.
Can someone with a more refined ear than mine explain to my why Taurus is going after Led Zeppelin? I'm listening to this video here - link - where someone put together about 20 songs that all use the same chord progression, going all the way back to Bach (who's not named as a defendant). One of the songs included is from a band named Cartoone, Ice Cream Dreams, for which Jimmy Page played as a session guitarist during its recording. That recording pre-dated LZ's tour with Taurus.
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