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US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

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We’ve defeated ISIS in Syria
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sarah Sanders re: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Syria?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Syria</a>: "We have started returning United States troops home as we transition to the next phase of this campaign."<br>Let me guess - the "humanitarian" phase, as directed by Putin in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Helsinki?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Helsinki</a> ?<a href="https://t.co/eZ7hW6sYPQ">https://t.co/eZ7hW6sYPQ</a> <a href="https://t.co/incrNZLHpv">pic.twitter.com/incrNZLHpv</a></p>— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1075425307404984323?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 19, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sarah Sanders re: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Syria?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Syria</a>: "We have started returning United States troops home as we transition to the next phase of this campaign."<br>Let me guess - the "humanitarian" phase, as directed by Putin in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Helsinki?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Helsinki</a> ?<a href="https://t.co/eZ7hW6sYPQ">https://t.co/eZ7hW6sYPQ</a> <a href="https://t.co/incrNZLHpv">pic.twitter.com/incrNZLHpv</a></p>— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1075425307404984323?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 19, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is any of that accurate?
 
Is any of that accurate?

To be fair, I learned my russian at JC Pennys...

... but Google Translate is batting decently when putting the American word in and translating to Russian. The handwriting makes it tougher to match exactly, but it's close enough where I'd trust her.

The original source photo seems to be bullet points that Putin and Trump talked about in Helsinki; and it's written large enough to be used as a prop for the media to see, likely for Putin to say "Yep, here's what we talked about, innocuous stuff."
 
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Good God most 6th graders write better than him.
 
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Hack piece of journalism. Joe, can you disagree that this is total tripe?

Pat takes a questionable move on Trumps part (vacating the middle east), absolves him of any blame by tying that outcome to other presidents, up plays Obamas role (never mind BO inherited everything)...and then titles the article 'how the war party lost the middle east'.

1. Republicans have always been 100% to blame for the debacle in the middle east. Bush even said 'history will judge me'. Many Democrats refused to give him authorization. Pretty much all Republicans did.

2. In 2003, about 60% of liberals opposed invading Iraq. Only 27% of conservatives did. https://news.gallup.com/poll/7699/b...-groups-most-likely-oppose-iraq-invasion.aspx

3. ISIS came from Iraq's chaos and American occupation of Muslim holy ground. What is Obama supposed to do? Allow for another OBL?

Pat Buchanan is given credit for some positive opinions on global policy. But he's as steeped in fake news as Anne Coulter.
 
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Yes let’s go on about Obama, while barely mentioning who got us into this crap in the first place.

Joe should be ashamed for posting such a pile of crap
 
So it is a bad idea to get out of a bad idea?

What you posted was a biased, ill written piece of crap. I don’t take any of what he says seriously esp. based on how this piece is written.

And no you can’t just decide to pull out in two weeks and call it a day. That’s not how it should happen
 
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What you posted was a biased, ill written piece of crap. I don’t take any of what he says seriously esp. based on how this piece is written.

And no you can’t just decide to pull out in two weeks and call it a day. That’s not how it should happen

Just pull out is joe's answer to all problems :D
 
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So it is a bad idea to get out of a bad idea?

At this point? Yes, it is. We can't stir up a ****storm, muddle around in it for a period of time, and then walk away to let the pieces fall where they may. We inserted ourselves and need to see it through to the end. We didn't do that in Vietnam, and it's quickly becoming our MO throughout the world. That's not what a leader's reputation should be - can be - if we want to continue holding on to our reputation as a world leader.
 
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So it is a bad idea to get out of a bad idea?

What does that have to do with the article? Its purpose was to absolve the president and GOP of all blame for the current mess and any of its outcome.
 
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