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UNLV next? NHL franchise adds momentum.

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The Sicatoka said:
Cleveland putting 20k fans into the stands for the LE Monsters (that's a good case for an NHL franchise) may put all that into disarray.
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Many people do not realize that Cleveland HAD an NHL franchise at one time. The Cleveland Barons, from 1976-78. Best player was Dennis Maruk, and one of their top goal scorers was my former MC classmate, Mike Fidler
 
The Sicatoka said:
Cleveland putting 20k fans into the stands for the LE Monsters (that's a good case for an NHL franchise) may put all that into disarray.
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They averaged 8600. If the can double the ticket prices and the attendance, they'd have a shot. Coincidentally, the current Monsters average about 2800 more per night that the NHL Barons did in Richfield.
 
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If not for the imbalance of the conferences, moving Arizona to Las Vegas and Carolina to Quebec would've been the smartest move.
 
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But then the other 28 team owners don't get to enjoy the feeling of swimming in the Scrooge McDuck Money Bin sized pile of expansion cash.
 
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brassbonanza said:
If not for the imbalance of the conferences, moving Arizona to Las Vegas and Carolina to Quebec would've been the smartest move.
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My point precisely.

Having said that, the so-called "imbalance of the conferences" is being ridiculously overplayed.

Just how is expanding the league by one (1) team going to "fix" the imbalance anyway - other than making "balance" impossible (even a dummy like me knows an odd number of teams is not evenly divisible by two) AND also eliminating any possibility of going with a 3 conferences of 10 teams apiece approach??

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It's kind of pathetic how the NHL - with the greatest game in the world - still can't get out of its own way.
 
Chuck Murray said:
My point precisely.

Having said that, the so-called "imbalance of the conferences" is being ridiculously overplayed.

Just how is expanding the league by one (1) team going to "fix" the imbalance anyway - other than making "balance" impossible (even a dummy like me knows an odd number of teams is not evenly divisible by two) AND also eliminating any possibility of going with a 3 conferences of 10 teams apiece approach.

It's kind of pathetic how the NHL - with the greatest game in the world - still can't get out of its own way.
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Greed is good. The owners have 500,000,000 reasons to like Vegas.

As an NHL GM would you fly your team into Vegas on the AM of game day and fly out right after the game?
 
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joecct said:
Greed is good. The owners have 500,000,000 reasons to like Vegas.

As an NHL GM would you fly your team into Vegas on the AM of game day and fly out right after the game?
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Generally, the teams operate on a "fly in 24 hours before puck drop" schedule.

Officially, per the NHL CBA:
16.8 Travel Requirements.
(a) No Club shall be required to travel on the day of an NHL Game if the average scheduled flight time for the airplane on which the Club would travel is greater than two and one-half (2 1/2) hours; provided, however, the foregoing shall not be applicable if the Club has played an NHL Game on the day before.
(b) Players shall be entitled to have a minimum of nine (9) hours "off" overnight between the time that they arrive at the team's hotel on a road trip and the time that they are next
obligated to report for practice or another work-related activity or meeting. The above rule shall not apply where extraordinary circumstances make it unfeasible (e.g., unforeseeable travel delays, practice rink availability issues, etc.).

16.9 Single Room Accommodations. Any Player on an SPC who is not in the Entry Level System shall be entitled to single room accommodations for all Club road trips.
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So, get ready to have "2010 Blackhawks at Roxy's" shenanigans reported about every team in the league!
 
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aparch said:
Generally, the teams operate on a "fly in 24 hours before puck drop" schedule.

Officially, per the NHL CBA:


So, get ready to have "2010 Blackhawks at Roxy's" shenanigans reported about every team in the league!
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If I'm a coach, I don't let my team stay on or near the Strip. There's plenty of quality hotel options that are specifically marketed as a relaxing resort well away from the Strip. The only problem would be proximity to practice rink(s) which I don't know the location of. But even that said, I wouldn't let my team anywhere near the Strip or downtown except for the game itself.
 
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brassbonanza said:
If I'm a coach, I don't let my team stay on or near the Strip. There's plenty of quality hotel options that are specifically marketed as a relaxing resort well away from the Strip. The only problem would be proximity to practice rink(s) which I don't know the location of. But even that said, I wouldn't let my team anywhere near the Strip or downtown except for the game itself.
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The practice rink is going to be located West of the 215 close to the Red Rock resort. Heard it was being modeled like UND.
 
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I find it laughable that so many make a big deal of Vegas nightlife. Like they can't find trouble in New York or LA or Miami or Dallas or Phoenix or Atlanta or New Orleans. Players have even gotten arrested in Milwaukee! As for Casino action, there are 3 large casinos within a reasonable walk of Joe Louis arena in Detroit. If you want to find trouble, you can find it anywhere you go.
 
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davyd83 said:
I find it laughable that so many make a big deal of Vegas nightlife. Like they can't find trouble in New York or LA or Miami or Dallas or Phoenix or Atlanta or New Orleans. Players have even gotten arrested in Milwaukee! As for Casino action, there are 3 large casinos within a reasonable walk of Joe Louis arena in Detroit. If you want to find trouble, you can find it anywhere you go.
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This. The boogeyman arguments the NCAA and others use against Las Vegas and gambling in general are nonsense. The mob ain't running the casinos anymore, there's no crooked and narrow going on.

That said, I'd still want my team staying off the Strip and avoiding the distractions if I were in charge. While you can absolutely get in trouble in any city, Las Vegas is the most prominent in terms of external distractions.
 
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Speaking of UNLV, I think it could be a real possibility. I looked up the Engelstad Faimly Foundation donations and they are a rather large donor for UNLV Club Hockey. For instance, the foundation gave them $114,00 in 2014. We all know what Ralph did at UND, maybe they would like to help UNLV start a program. Not saying they would put up all the money, but this relationship certainly doesn't hurt...
 
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davyd83 said:
I find it laughable that so many make a big deal of Vegas nightlife. Like they can't find trouble in New York or LA or Miami or Dallas or Phoenix or Atlanta or New Orleans. Players have even gotten arrested in Milwaukee! As for Casino action, there are 3 large casinos within a reasonable walk of Joe Louis arena in Detroit. If you want to find trouble, you can find it anywhere you go.
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Ah, but that's the difference. In Las Vegas, trouble finds you. :D
 
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davyd83 said:
I find it laughable that so many make a big deal of Vegas nightlife. Like they can't find trouble in New York or LA or Miami or Dallas or Phoenix or Atlanta or New Orleans. Players have even gotten arrested in Milwaukee! As for Casino action, there are 3 large casinos within a reasonable walk of Joe Louis arena in Detroit. If you want to find trouble, you can find it anywhere you go.
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Good point, totally agree. And BTW those Detroit casinos are even a closer walk to the new arena (I believe).
 
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I don't care about the gambling angle, but have zero confidence the NHL will succeed in Vegas.
 
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