Re: University of North Dakota Hockey: 2011-2012
Thanks!! Can you please let us win and then beat the crap out of Cornell and Colgate?
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University of North Dakota Hockey: 2011-2012
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JW Tigers
Go CC, go AFA, Go NU!
Re: University of North Dakota Hockey: 2011-2012
As for Clarkson, when CC played there a few years ago, I was at both games and had a great time. I enjoyed the fans, especially the students. And I love the bell! I will always have a soft spot for Clarkson due to my great experience in Potsdam.
Great post, FireKnight, and I couldn't agree more. I love that about the FIGHTING SIOUX as well. Especially when looking at certain schools (namely of the Big 10 variety) who seem to rarely travel for non conference games. North Dakota will travel anywhere, anytime, and that is to be commended. It is great for our sport. I think the new conference is going to make this even better, as it opens up a few more non conference games.
As for Clarkson, when CC played there a few years ago, I was at both games and had a great time. I enjoyed the fans, especially the students. And I love the bell! I will always have a soft spot for Clarkson due to my great experience in Potsdam.
Siouxfaninseattle
Fighting Sioux Fan Forever
Re: University of North Dakota Hockey: 2011-2012
So pretty nice win tonite. We're 8-1-1 in the last 10 games. Hmmm. Does it feel like the second half surge is underway? Next weekend will give us a good idea.
So pretty nice win tonite. We're 8-1-1 in the last 10 games. Hmmm. Does it feel like the second half surge is underway? Next weekend will give us a good idea.
FireKnight
Let's go Tech!
Re: University of North Dakota Hockey: 2011-2012
It seemed like CCT ran out of gas tonight just as North Dakota started to turn it on. Clarkson controlled the play in the first, had a dreadful second and the third sounded a little more up and down with both teams unable to bury some big opportunities. It sounds like you guys have a great hockey community up there and online.
As our coach said in the post-game, this Clarkson squad is not out for moral victories despite being pegged as dead last in the ECAC preseason picks, but it is kind of nice to be able to hang with one of the great squads out there. Good luck the rest of the way and we'll definitely work toward getting a couple victories over Colgate and Cornell for you when they come to Potsdam.
It seemed like CCT ran out of gas tonight just as North Dakota started to turn it on. Clarkson controlled the play in the first, had a dreadful second and the third sounded a little more up and down with both teams unable to bury some big opportunities. It sounds like you guys have a great hockey community up there and online.
As our coach said in the post-game, this Clarkson squad is not out for moral victories despite being pegged as dead last in the ECAC preseason picks, but it is kind of nice to be able to hang with one of the great squads out there. Good luck the rest of the way and we'll definitely work toward getting a couple victories over Colgate and Cornell for you when they come to Potsdam.
Re: University of North Dakota Hockey: 2011-2012
So what's the word on the injured players? Rodwell we know for sure is out, and I assume we still won't see Rocco. How about Forbort? It's been kind of quiet since the WJ's. Any chance he plays? Also, Knight is a huge key. Without his face off wins we sure spend a lot of time chasing the puck.
So what's the word on the injured players? Rodwell we know for sure is out, and I assume we still won't see Rocco. How about Forbort? It's been kind of quiet since the WJ's. Any chance he plays? Also, Knight is a huge key. Without his face off wins we sure spend a lot of time chasing the puck.
Siouxfaninseattle
Fighting Sioux Fan Forever
Re: University of North Dakota Hockey: 2011-2012
Crap. The annual get-together to watch the Sioux/Gopher game is tonite and it is snowing! The weather guessers are saying an inch or two so it will either stop or we'll get a foot. Worse case I'll stay home and watch but its always a good time. Great game last night - I don't think I've ever heard the Ralph as loud as it was the last 3 and a half minutes.
Crap. The annual get-together to watch the Sioux/Gopher game is tonite and it is snowing! The weather guessers are saying an inch or two so it will either stop or we'll get a foot. Worse case I'll stay home and watch but its always a good time. Great game last night - I don't think I've ever heard the Ralph as loud as it was the last 3 and a half minutes.
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Re: University of North Dakota Hockey: 2011-2012
This got me thinking. When was the last time North Dakota won a tight, down to the wire, one goal game against Minnesota at home? It had never happened at the new Ralph until last night, with the last win of this type coming January 21st, 2000, when North Dakota beat Minnesota 1-0.
Between then and last night, here were the results of North Dakota wins at home against Minnesota...
1/15/11: 4-1 (lost 3-2 the night before)
3/14/10: 4-1 (lost 4-2 the night before)
3/12/10: 6-0
10/16/09: 4-0 (tied 3-3 the night after)
1/10/09: 6-1
1/09/09: 6-3
12/07/07: 4-2 (lost 4-3 the night after) It should be noted that the game winner came with less than 4 minutes to play in this game
10/22/04: 4-2 w/game winner coming about 5 minutes into the third
11/8/03: 7-3
11/7/03: 5-3
11/10/00: 7-5 (tied 5-5 the night after)
We also lost two 4-3 games in December of '05, and one in '02.
It is odd to think, but we were 0-5-1 in one goal games at the new Ralph against Minnesota until last night.
This got me thinking. When was the last time North Dakota won a tight, down to the wire, one goal game against Minnesota at home? It had never happened at the new Ralph until last night, with the last win of this type coming January 21st, 2000, when North Dakota beat Minnesota 1-0.
Between then and last night, here were the results of North Dakota wins at home against Minnesota...
1/15/11: 4-1 (lost 3-2 the night before)
3/14/10: 4-1 (lost 4-2 the night before)
3/12/10: 6-0
10/16/09: 4-0 (tied 3-3 the night after)
1/10/09: 6-1
1/09/09: 6-3
12/07/07: 4-2 (lost 4-3 the night after) It should be noted that the game winner came with less than 4 minutes to play in this game
10/22/04: 4-2 w/game winner coming about 5 minutes into the third
11/8/03: 7-3
11/7/03: 5-3
11/10/00: 7-5 (tied 5-5 the night after)
We also lost two 4-3 games in December of '05, and one in '02.
It is odd to think, but we were 0-5-1 in one goal games at the new Ralph against Minnesota until last night.
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Re: University of North Dakota Hockey: 2011-2012
Well, that was a disappointing outcome tonight. Overall, UND is 7th in the WCHA standings and faces a crucial series with SCSU this upcoming weekend. I don't think a sweep is a likely result, but a split is a must. At the end of the day, UND has 12 WCHA regular season games left. 8 wins probably gets home ice, so where do those 8 wins come from?
@ St. Cloud State - as stated, 2 points is a must...anything more would be gravy
vs Wisconsin - this is looking more and more like a necessary sweep.
@ Duluth - the bulldogs are playing great right now (despite the loss tonight) and probably want to enact some revenge on UND from last season. it is hard to imagine anything more than 2 here, and getting swept is possible.
vs Tech - this series is almost a must need sweep. if UND sweeps Wisconsin and takes a game from Duluth (or sweep SCSU) then they may have a bit of wiggle room.
@ Denver - another very difficult place to get points. again, anything more than 2 is difficult to foresee, but a split is doable if UND plays well.
vs Mankato - must sweep. anything less would be extremely disappointing.
Where do the 8 wins come from? I think sweeps of Mankato and either Wisconsin or Tech (with the other series being a split) gets UND to 5. A split with Denver and SCSU gets UND to 7. That leaves the Duluth series to get a split. If they fail in Duluth, then UND needs to either sweep out at home, or sweep either Denver or SCSU.
Ultimately, I think North Dakota gets the 8 wins, putting them at 16-12-0 in WCHA play (32 points) and likely hosting a first round series (32 points would have been good for 5th last season). It would also put them at 20-13-4, and likely on the bubble for the NCAA Tournament. As a result, North Dakota would likely have to at least win the first round series (against a team like SCSU, Tech, Bemidji or Wisconsin) of the WCHA Tournament, and perhaps make a run to the title game.
It all starts this upcoming weekend at St. Cloud. UND generally outplayed the Huskies earlier in the year, but they need to get healthy. 4 points is doable, but unlikely. 2 points is almost a necessity. Hopefully the team is able to regroup and refocus after tonight, and give St. Cloud everything they have.
Well, that was a disappointing outcome tonight. Overall, UND is 7th in the WCHA standings and faces a crucial series with SCSU this upcoming weekend. I don't think a sweep is a likely result, but a split is a must. At the end of the day, UND has 12 WCHA regular season games left. 8 wins probably gets home ice, so where do those 8 wins come from?
@ St. Cloud State - as stated, 2 points is a must...anything more would be gravy
vs Wisconsin - this is looking more and more like a necessary sweep.
@ Duluth - the bulldogs are playing great right now (despite the loss tonight) and probably want to enact some revenge on UND from last season. it is hard to imagine anything more than 2 here, and getting swept is possible.
vs Tech - this series is almost a must need sweep. if UND sweeps Wisconsin and takes a game from Duluth (or sweep SCSU) then they may have a bit of wiggle room.
@ Denver - another very difficult place to get points. again, anything more than 2 is difficult to foresee, but a split is doable if UND plays well.
vs Mankato - must sweep. anything less would be extremely disappointing.
Where do the 8 wins come from? I think sweeps of Mankato and either Wisconsin or Tech (with the other series being a split) gets UND to 5. A split with Denver and SCSU gets UND to 7. That leaves the Duluth series to get a split. If they fail in Duluth, then UND needs to either sweep out at home, or sweep either Denver or SCSU.
Ultimately, I think North Dakota gets the 8 wins, putting them at 16-12-0 in WCHA play (32 points) and likely hosting a first round series (32 points would have been good for 5th last season). It would also put them at 20-13-4, and likely on the bubble for the NCAA Tournament. As a result, North Dakota would likely have to at least win the first round series (against a team like SCSU, Tech, Bemidji or Wisconsin) of the WCHA Tournament, and perhaps make a run to the title game.
It all starts this upcoming weekend at St. Cloud. UND generally outplayed the Huskies earlier in the year, but they need to get healthy. 4 points is doable, but unlikely. 2 points is almost a necessity. Hopefully the team is able to regroup and refocus after tonight, and give St. Cloud everything they have.
Siouxfaninseattle
Fighting Sioux Fan Forever
Re: University of North Dakota Hockey: 2011-2012
It sure was a disappointing loss, but a split was not a bad result. Here's how I see it for the Sioux to have a shot at making the tournament - and still may need to win the Broadmoor. Sweep SCSU, Bucky, Tech and Mankato, and split with UMD and Denver. Sweeps against SCSU and Bucky will be hard - SCSU on the road and Bucky swept us earlier this year. Tech is not a given but it is at home. If you can't sweep Mankato, go home. Splits at UMD and Denver look like great outcomes. Even if they don't win 10 games home ice for the WCHA playoffs could get them to the Final Five and a Broadmoor win. No more injuries!
It sure was a disappointing loss, but a split was not a bad result. Here's how I see it for the Sioux to have a shot at making the tournament - and still may need to win the Broadmoor. Sweep SCSU, Bucky, Tech and Mankato, and split with UMD and Denver. Sweeps against SCSU and Bucky will be hard - SCSU on the road and Bucky swept us earlier this year. Tech is not a given but it is at home. If you can't sweep Mankato, go home. Splits at UMD and Denver look like great outcomes. Even if they don't win 10 games home ice for the WCHA playoffs could get them to the Final Five and a Broadmoor win. No more injuries!
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Re: University of North Dakota Hockey: 2011-2012
I like your optimism.
If North Dakota wins 10 of the 12, then they would almost assuredly be on the right side of the NCAA bubble, and perhaps a 3rd or 4th place standing in the WCHA (36 points was good for 3rd last year). It would also give the Sioux a 22-11-2 record, including a 4-1-2 non-conference record. I have not crunched any numbers, but I would think that would probably land North Dakota somewhere in the low #2 seed to high #3 seed range.
Either way, a sweep over SCSU would be absolutely huge for our NCAA hopes. Also, I agree, it sure would be nice to stay healthy for a change...
I like your optimism.
If North Dakota wins 10 of the 12, then they would almost assuredly be on the right side of the NCAA bubble, and perhaps a 3rd or 4th place standing in the WCHA (36 points was good for 3rd last year). It would also give the Sioux a 22-11-2 record, including a 4-1-2 non-conference record. I have not crunched any numbers, but I would think that would probably land North Dakota somewhere in the low #2 seed to high #3 seed range.
Either way, a sweep over SCSU would be absolutely huge for our NCAA hopes. Also, I agree, it sure would be nice to stay healthy for a change...
Re: University of North Dakota Hockey: 2011-2012
comment was made in the preseason. talk about foreshadowing..
comment was made in the preseason. talk about foreshadowing..
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Re: University of North Dakota Hockey: 2011-2012
Well, that was a disappointing result tonight. Tomorrow night becomes a must win situation for North Dakota, as UND is slipping further and further back in both the WCHA standings and the Pairwise standings. North Dakota has just had too many injuries this year...it's really too bad because the Kristo-Knight-Nelson line is something special.
Well, that was a disappointing result tonight. Tomorrow night becomes a must win situation for North Dakota, as UND is slipping further and further back in both the WCHA standings and the Pairwise standings. North Dakota has just had too many injuries this year...it's really too bad because the Kristo-Knight-Nelson line is something special.
Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: University of North Dakota Hockey: 2011-2012
Whew. I got a "kick" out of Dell's postgame comments about the disallowed goal. When asked whether or not he knew that the goal was kicked in, Dell responded with "I've seen more subtle kicks in soccer".
The win puts us back at .500 in WCHA play, and back at least in contention for the Pairwise. This next weekend is huge for North Dakota. If UND can sweep Wisconsin, North Dakota will be in a good position for home ice, and could potentially see themselves on the cusp of the top 15 of the Pairwise. Hopefully the guys can heal up some, and it would be nice to see Forbort back in action. 4 points isn't a "must", but it is about as close to a "must" as you can get without crossing that line.
For now though, I'll enjoy tonight's victory.
Whew. I got a "kick" out of Dell's postgame comments about the disallowed goal. When asked whether or not he knew that the goal was kicked in, Dell responded with "I've seen more subtle kicks in soccer".
The win puts us back at .500 in WCHA play, and back at least in contention for the Pairwise. This next weekend is huge for North Dakota. If UND can sweep Wisconsin, North Dakota will be in a good position for home ice, and could potentially see themselves on the cusp of the top 15 of the Pairwise. Hopefully the guys can heal up some, and it would be nice to see Forbort back in action. 4 points isn't a "must", but it is about as close to a "must" as you can get without crossing that line.
For now though, I'll enjoy tonight's victory.
Siouxfaninseattle
Fighting Sioux Fan Forever
Re: University of North Dakota Hockey: 2011-2012
I will enjoy the win too. Four points next weekend is a must!
Whew. I got a "kick" out of Dell's postgame comments about the disallowed goal. When asked whether or not he knew that the goal was kicked in, Dell responded with "I've seen more subtle kicks in soccer".
The win puts us back at .500 in WCHA play, and back at least in contention for the Pairwise. This next weekend is huge for North Dakota. If UND can sweep Wisconsin, North Dakota will be in a good position for home ice, and could potentially see themselves on the cusp of the top 15 of the Pairwise. Hopefully the guys can heal up some, and it would be nice to see Forbort back in action. 4 points isn't a "must", but it is about as close to a "must" as you can get without crossing that line.
For now though, I'll enjoy tonight's victory.
I will enjoy the win too. Four points next weekend is a must!
Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: University of North Dakota Hockey: 2011-2012
Basically we need to get four points between next weekend and @ Duluth. If we could somehow get 6, it could be a sign that we have what it takes to sneak into the NCAA Tournament.
Basically we need to get four points between next weekend and @ Duluth. If we could somehow get 6, it could be a sign that we have what it takes to sneak into the NCAA Tournament.
Siouxfaninseattle
Fighting Sioux Fan Forever
Re: University of North Dakota Hockey: 2011-2012
I have already put us down for 6 points.
I have already put us down for 6 points.
Re: University of North Dakota Hockey: 2011-2012
You go back to Jim Dahl's first comments on the subject in early January. An 11-4 record over the second half of the regular season would put UND "quite likely" in the 10-13 range. You don't want to be below 13. He suggested they "could" make the tournament by winning as few as 8-9 games, with a decent WCHA tournament run, but that would be dicey.
They've gone 3-2 since that time. They really need to go 8-2 over these last 10. The WCHA traditionally produces a lot of splits in the second half of conference play, and an 8-2 run would have the added benefit of jumping them up the standings.
8-2 will be hard, but it's within their reach. Sweep at home and split on the road will get it done. It has to start this weekend.
I don't believe 4 points will be enough in the next two weekends, although that may be about as many as we likely can get.
You go back to Jim Dahl's first comments on the subject in early January. An 11-4 record over the second half of the regular season would put UND "quite likely" in the 10-13 range. You don't want to be below 13. He suggested they "could" make the tournament by winning as few as 8-9 games, with a decent WCHA tournament run, but that would be dicey.
They've gone 3-2 since that time. They really need to go 8-2 over these last 10. The WCHA traditionally produces a lot of splits in the second half of conference play, and an 8-2 run would have the added benefit of jumping them up the standings.
8-2 will be hard, but it's within their reach. Sweep at home and split on the road will get it done. It has to start this weekend.