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University of North Dakota-2015-2016-Seaason

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It looks like a run off will happen. I'm surprised at the support for Nodaks. At least there is an end in sight - hopefully.
 
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Is the anywhere the rest of the nation can see the results?
 
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Slap Shot said:
Please be the Nodaks.
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You hope for NoDaks to be UND's nickname, I hoped that the gophers would be the worst team in college hockey... We will have to wait on the nickname but at least one of our wishes has come true.
 
burd said:
You would say that, of course. Tundrabillies would be better.
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To be honest the nickname should have been left alone and I hope the majority of the true fans (the ones whose interest in the matter wasn't due to PC bs) get to lead the charge. My comment though was because I know that if the local gopher population rose up and forced the U to change the name that I'd never vote for, "Minnesotans" as a replacement. :)
 
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Slap Shot said:
To be honest the nickname should have been left alone and I hope the majority of the true fans (the ones whose interest in the matter wasn't due to PC bs) get to lead the charge. My comment though was because I know that if the local gopher population rose up and forced the U to change the name that I'd never vote for, "Minnesotans" as a replacement. :)
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Fair enough. In the end, I think it will end up second to Roughriders. There are still too many people around who recall the use of the "Roughrider State" in the '60's and '70's as a sort of unofficial state slogan.

I voted for Nodaks, though. I thought North Stars was too unrelated to North Dakota to even be on the list. I eliminated Sundogs and Fighting Hawks because it's going to be too easy to simply reduce the name (and perhaps mascot) to another dog or bird, and the last thing we need is another University in this country with a dog or bird mascot.

That left the two apparent front-runners. Either will be fine with me, but I went with Nodaks because, a) Roughriders aren't particularly unique, with a local high school and a USHL hockey team, to name two, using the same name, and b) Nodaks is actually the very first name used by UND athletics teams (sort of a going back from whence we came vote).
 
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http://und.edu/news/2015/10/nickname-runoff-vote.cfm

I'm rather annoyed with what UND did with the nickname vote. By changing the rules and allowing three names to be finalists, they've all but guaranteed Fighting Hawks will win. If just Roughriders were moving on, it would have stood a chance, but with Nodaks also advancing neither stands a chance. Those who voted for North Stars and Sundogs will see that Fighting Hawks is the clear leader and will overwhelming throw their support behind that name as they will view voting for either Roughriders or Nodaks as throwing their vote away.
 
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willythekid said:
You hope for NoDaks to be UND's nickname, I hoped that the gophers would be the worst team in college hockey... We will have to wait on the nickname but at least one of our wishes has come true.
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Have you seen Wisconsin lately?
 
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Dirty said:
http://und.edu/news/2015/10/nickname-runoff-vote.cfm

I'm rather annoyed with what UND did with the nickname vote. By changing the rules and allowing three names to be finalists, they've all but guaranteed Fighting Hawks will win. If just Roughriders were moving on, it would have stood a chance, but with Nodaks also advancing neither stands a chance. Those who voted for North Stars and Sundogs will see that Fighting Hawks is the clear leader and will overwhelming throw their support behind that name as they will view voting for either Roughriders or Nodaks as throwing their vote away.
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How much does one need to donate to vote?
 
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Happy said:
How much does one need to donate to vote?
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You probably missed it but you could have bought volleyball seaosn tickets. I think it was like 60 bucks.


Fighting Hawks is the dumbest one left, it's even dumber because fans think they'll get a hawk that looks like the old Native American head logo. Sad
 
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Dirty said:
http://und.edu/news/2015/10/nickname-runoff-vote.cfm

I'm rather annoyed with what UND did with the nickname vote. By changing the rules and allowing three names to be finalists, they've all but guaranteed Fighting Hawks will win. If just Roughriders were moving on, it would have stood a chance, but with Nodaks also advancing neither stands a chance. Those who voted for North Stars and Sundogs will see that Fighting Hawks is the clear leader and will overwhelming throw their support behind that name as they will view voting for either Roughriders or Nodaks as throwing their vote away.
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Most university presidents get a rare opportunity to "leave their mark" so to speak with respect to their tenure at a school. Sometimes its a big fundraising campaign. Or maybe its a move from Division II to Division I in sports.

Kelley has done an extremely poor job on this process, and that's going to be his mark. To those that criticize the choices of names, I say "meh". No name was going to sound great after using Fighting Sioux all these years. They will all sound awkward and strange, and won't flow off the tongue. But that just comes with the territory, and to be candid I've yet to hear someone come forward with a suggestion where most people would just go, "yeah, that's what it should be."

But the names aren't where Kelley has gone wrong. It's the process. The process shouldn't be that hard. Pick some stakeholders to select a couple of options, then put them up for a vote. What he has done now is virtually assured the selection of a name that will be picked only by a plurality of the voters. At least if you get down to two selections, one is guaranteed to receive more than 50% of the vote (short of an unlikely tie), so it at least creates the illusion the name was selected by a majority.

I suppose it's fitting. I for one will be glad when a name is selected and the U and its fans can move on from this nonsense.
 
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SJHovey said:
Most university presidents get a rare opportunity to "leave their mark" so to speak with respect to their tenure at a school. Sometimes its a big fundraising campaign. Or maybe its a move from Division II to Division I in sports.

Kelley has done an extremely poor job on this process, and that's going to be his mark. To those that criticize the choices of names, I say "meh". No name was going to sound great after using Fighting Sioux all these years. They will all sound awkward and strange, and won't flow off the tongue. But that just comes with the territory, and to be candid I've yet to hear someone come forward with a suggestion where most people would just go, "yeah, that's what it should be."

But the names aren't where Kelley has gone wrong. It's the process. The process shouldn't be that hard. Pick some stakeholders to select a couple of options, then put them up for a vote. What he has done now is virtually assured the selection of a name that will be picked only by a plurality of the voters. At least if you get down to two selections, one is guaranteed to receive more than 50% of the vote (short of an unlikely tie), so it at least creates the illusion the name was selected by a majority.

I suppose it's fitting. I for one will be glad when a name is selected and the U and its fans can move on from this nonsense.
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ironically, Kelley has seen a very successful fund raising campaign and the move from D2 to D1, but his mark will be the nickname fiasco. I can't imagine how it could have gone so poorly, and I'm afraid it won't end next week. Yikes.
 
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