Universities with On Campus Rinks w/o NCAA Team

[JHG722]

Re: Universities with On Campus Rinks w/o NCAA Team

Because they don't want to add 36 scholarships or drop any other men's sports.

After Vermont was admitted Hockey East put in a requirement that any new team must have a rink with a minimum 5000 seat capacity. Providence and Merrimack are grandfathered.

There was supposed to be a 7000 seat arena built on the campus of Carolina Coast University but I don't think it ever happened

Coastal Carolina?

 

[Snively65]

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After Vermont was admitted Hockey East put in a requirement that any new team must have a rink with a minimum 5000 seat capacity. Providence and Merrimack are grandfathered.

Seems like a silly requirement, as Tsongas and Conte are commonly less than half full, although I think that they are great hockey venues; also, Gutterson is always a sell out at 4303, I think.

 

[moose97]

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After Vermont was admitted Hockey East put in a requirement that any new team must have a rink with a minimum 5000 seat capacity. Providence and Merrimack are grandfathered.

5000 is an ineresting number for HEA, considering the WCHA's requirement is 4000 - meaning that they set the number 200 lower than the smallest building in the conference (MTU *), and the W is generally seen as the conf. with the largest, most modern buildings in college hockey.

* and from what I'm hearing, Bemidji's rink will be larger than MTU's as well. I know it's been said it's 4000 seats, but I keep hearing that it'll be more than that... I'll try to get a true # of seats, if not capacity, when I take my next tour.

 

[Flashy Man]

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5000 is an ineresting number for HEA, considering the WCHA's requirement is 4000 - meaning that they set the number 200 lower than the smallest building in the conference (MTU *), and the W is generally seen as the conf. with the largest, most modern buildings in college hockey.

* and from what I'm hearing, Bemidji's rink will be larger than MTU's as well. I know it's been said it's 4000 seats, but I keep hearing that it'll be more than that... I'll try to get a true # of seats, if not capacity, when I take my next tour.

One difference is how capacity is counted in various conferences, I believe in the WCHA it's seating+standing room, whereas the CCHA is just seating. The MacInnes actually only seats about 3000.

 

[moose97]

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One difference is how capacity is counted in various conferences, I believe in the WCHA it's seating+standing room, whereas the CCHA is just seating. The MacInnes actually only seats about 3000.

That's correct about the W - the 4000 number is "capacity," meaning seating + suites + standing. Still interesting to me because of the reason I stated. I'm not aware of a minimum number for the CCHA, or what the 5000 number represents for HEA (seats or capacity)...

 

[Flashy Man]

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The maximum number of occupants based on the number of egress provided is 4,785. Seating capacity is 2850 in the main seating and 418 within the suites.

 

[moose97]

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After taking a tour of the site today, I found out that the Bemidji Regional Event Center will have 3336 seats in the main seating bowl, 365 club seats, and 300 seats (25 suites x 12 seats per suite) in the suite level (not including "rail seating" or any couches or chairs within the suites themselves), totaling 4001 physical seats. A "fire number" (i.e. how many standing room tickets can be sold and for what areas) will not be available until after building completion in 13 months.

 

[redhawkman10]

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A facility capable of keeping an ice sheet for starters, then we can break it down. Maybe post seating capacities if available.

Well if you are going off of that, Northern Kentucky University just built a 10,000 seat arena and had plans of putting ice capabilities in it but pulled the plug at the last minute. Still has the ability to hold short term ice. Not sure if that fits your criteria, still love the topic and makes you wonder a little about some of these schools.

 

[bigmrg74]

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Well if you are going off of that, Northern Kentucky University just built a 10,000 seat arena and had plans of putting ice capabilities in it but pulled the plug at the last minute. Still has the ability to hold short term ice. Not sure if that fits your criteria, still love the topic and makes you wonder a little about some of these schools.

Mister Anderson might have a little something to do with that perhaps. Pitty he just doesn't have the $$$$$ to back him up there.

 

[Flashy Man]

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RBC Center in Raleigh shares the grounds with NC State's football stadium.

 

[bcfan131]

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RBC Center in Raleigh shares the grounds with NC State's football stadium.

And it's also the home for their men's basketball team...

 

[AFHockeyFan]

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Not to be negative but if Navy has these nice facilities and just successfully hosted the frozen four why have they not made a move and tried to get a varsity program? I mean even though it would make scheduling a pain I'm sure the AHA would accept them. Maybe the powers that be at the Naval academy just don't want it to ever happen.

Probably to save the embarrassment of getting owned by the other two service academies for the foreseeable future.

Army and Air Force are in natural hockey recruiting areas. Navy, not so much.

And, surely the other schools that have recently dropped D1 still have rinks (Findlay, Wayne State). MIT also has an on-campus rink that is actually better than some of the current AHA schools.

 

[SoCalSiouxFan]

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I don't know if a list has been put together of all the universities that have on campus ice rinks that don't sponsor NCAA sanctioned hockey. So, the few that I now off the top of my head are UPenn and Penn State. What are some others? I'll compile the list as we go.

• Greenberg Ice Pavillion, Pennsylvania State University - University Park, PA
• Class of 1923 Rink, University of Pennsylvania - Philadelphia, PA - 2900 Seats
• UIC Pavillion, University of Illinois at Chicago - Chicago, IL - 6900 Seats
• KSU Ice Arena, Kent State University - Kent, OH < 1000 Seats
• McMullen Hockey Arena, United State Naval Academy - Annapolis, MD - 800 seats expandable to 3000 seats
• University Recreation Center, Eastern Washington University - Cheney, WA - 750 Seats
• University of Colorado at Boulder - Boulder, CO
• Boss Arena, University of Rhode Island - Kingston, RI - 2500 Seats
• ISU Ice Arena, Iowa State University, Ames, IA - 1000 Seats
• University of Illinois Ice Rink, University of Illinois, Champaign, IL - 1200 Seats
• Ice Sheet Ogden, Weber State University, Ogden, UT - 2000 Seats
• University of Michigan-Dearborn Ice Arena, Unv. of Michigan-Dearborn- Dearborn, MI - seats 1500
• Ossian C. Bird Arena, Ohio University - Athens OH- seats 2000
• Lindenwood Ice Arena, Lindenwood University - St. Charles, MO - Seats 1000
• LaHaye Ice Center, Liberty University- Lynchburg, VA -
• Mediacom Ice Park, Missouri State University - Springfield, MO - Seats 1500
• Tennity Ice Skating Pavilion, Syracuse University - Syracuse, NY - Seats 300 (Note: Has D1 Womens Team)
• Floyd Hall Arena, Montclair State University - Montclair, NJ
• Fred Rust Ice Arena, University of Delaware - Newark, DE
• RBC Center - North Carolina State University - Raleigh, NC - Seats 18,176

Not sure which other PAC 12 schools have ice on campus but at USC has the Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena seats 14,546 for ice hockey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Memorial_Sports_Arena

Bad news is that there are plans to tear down the stadium and build an outdoor stadium in its place.

 

[bignick33]

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RBC is very much not on NC State's campus. It's about five miles away at the NC Fairgrounds.

 

[manurespreader]

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I don't think Wayne state ever had a rink. They borrowed ice time hither and yon.

 

[moose97]

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And, surely the other schools that have recently dropped D1 still have rinks (Findlay, Wayne State). MIT also has an on-campus rink that is actually better than some of the current AHA schools.

I don't think Wayne state ever had a rink. They borrowed ice time hither and yon.

Correct about WSU. They played at, I think, four different rinks: Compuware Arena, Great Lakes Sports City Arena, Taylor Sportsplex and Michigan Fairgrounds Arena, plus played at least two series as the "home" team at Joe Louis (Notre Dame and BGSU).

Findlay does still have the Clauss Ice Arena (scroll down), but there have been many stories over the years that it was going to be renovated into something else. In fact, it was built to be a swimming pool and switched to a hockey rink during construction!

 

[IrishHockeyFan]

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Regarding Indiana. If by 'very close to campus' you mean in the same town, then I'll give it to you. And, there is absolutely no way that rink could support D-1 hockey. Small ice surface and way too old.

Rumor has it that when they built Assembly Hall they were going to make it possible to convert it into an ice arena too. You can even tell this by it's current interior architecture. But Bob Knight nixed those plans...

Didn't Assembly Hall open for the 1971-1972 season, the same year Knight came to IU? When it was being designed and built, Knight was still coaching at Army.

 

[Flashy Man]

RBC is very much not on NC State's campus. It's about five miles away at the NC Fairgrounds.

Normally I wouldn't have added this one, but since their football stadium is on the same grounds I included.

 

[Flashy Man]

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As it was announced the University of Illinois is planning a new 2 sheet facility.

 

[joecct]

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Delaware's main rink is Division 1 caliber. Liberty says it seats around 2,000+ but it is a weird configuration.