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Re: Union
That's all you have? My grammatical errors......disappointed.
What got my attention is the persistent negativity on Male coaches in the female game and you take it too far with personal attacks (words like low life, conceited, fat)...unnecessary IMO.
Save the personal attacks, I'm sure you wouldn't want that on you or your family.....if someones a bad coach explain why.....i'm done here.
"what your selling" and "no doubt your a" should both be "you're" but you're not smart enough to know your mistakes.
That's all you have? My grammatical errors......disappointed.
What got my attention is the persistent negativity on Male coaches in the female game and you take it too far with personal attacks (words like low life, conceited, fat)...unnecessary IMO.
Save the personal attacks, I'm sure you wouldn't want that on you or your family.....if someones a bad coach explain why.....i'm done here.
Re: Union
hocper, please don't use common sense with this negative person. Their inability to justify their comments is proof they are obviously mad at something. I agree, personal attacks only confirm that points made are invalid.
hocper, please don't use common sense with this negative person. Their inability to justify their comments is proof they are obviously mad at something. I agree, personal attacks only confirm that points made are invalid.
giwan
Really??!!
Re: Union
Are those teams giving their men's programs more support? Easily a Title IX violation, it's not just about matching schollies.
So how do you explain a school like RPI which offers a scholly and I think would be consider prestigious to some degree.
Are those teams giving their men's programs more support? Easily a Title IX violation, it's not just about matching schollies.
So how do you explain a school like RPI which offers a scholly and I think would be consider prestigious to some degree.
Re: Union
Title IX compliance is monitored across an en entire institution, not an individual program.
Title IX compliance is monitored across an en entire institution, not an individual program.
giwan
Really??!!
Re: Union
This is true but still possible grounds to bring up issues. If you have say only one flagship sport ie D1 for men and women, one can do some direct comparisons. If you believe some of the groups that govern and deal with Title IX issues 90% of universities are not in compliance. Wish I could find the citation for that but I did read that on NOT FAKE NEWS.
Do you really believe the previous Union coach stepped down all on her own accord? No Title IX issues brought up to get a "deal" from Union and start fresh.
This is true but still possible grounds to bring up issues. If you have say only one flagship sport ie D1 for men and women, one can do some direct comparisons. If you believe some of the groups that govern and deal with Title IX issues 90% of universities are not in compliance. Wish I could find the citation for that but I did read that on NOT FAKE NEWS.
Do you really believe the previous Union coach stepped down all on her own accord? No Title IX issues brought up to get a "deal" from Union and start fresh.
Re: Union
If a coach, after nine seasons, has a 36-236-332 record, including a 0-28-6 final year, can not see that she should step down "on her own accord", then she'd be even a worse coach than she was. I don't think Title IX gave her any bargaining chips.
Happy New Year to the Union Women Hockey team. Enjoy the rest of the season. Play hard. Study harder.
Go U!
If a coach, after nine seasons, has a 36-236-332 record, including a 0-28-6 final year, can not see that she should step down "on her own accord", then she'd be even a worse coach than she was. I don't think Title IX gave her any bargaining chips.
Happy New Year to the Union Women Hockey team. Enjoy the rest of the season. Play hard. Study harder.
Go U!
FiveHoleFrenzy
Well-known member
Re: Union
Corrected..Simply an extra 3.
Also interesting to note in that record is that only 9 conference wins in 9 years....
Corrected..Simply an extra 3.
Also interesting to note in that record is that only 9 conference wins in 9 years....
Corrected..Simply an extra 3.
Also interesting to note in that record is that only 9 conference wins in 9 years....
That is hard to believe. However 200 more losses than wins is nearly impossible to even imagine much less believe but it's sadly true.
giwan
Really??!!
Re: Union
I can easily see she should have stepped down earlier, didn't need to break their own losing record. Title IX may have come into play as a Union football coach was let go with much better numbers than she ever had obviously. So how do you let go of one coach which had some success but continue to let a coach with abysmal numbers stay? Again Title IX was raising its head, it was brought up, I know 3 players on that team and their parents there was more than just her stepping down on her own accord.
I can easily see she should have stepped down earlier, didn't need to break their own losing record. Title IX may have come into play as a Union football coach was let go with much better numbers than she ever had obviously. So how do you let go of one coach which had some success but continue to let a coach with abysmal numbers stay? Again Title IX was raising its head, it was brought up, I know 3 players on that team and their parents there was more than just her stepping down on her own accord.
HockeyEast33
New member
Re: Union
There is little incentive for a coach to quit for performance related reasons, especially if they have a contract as was suggested last season with this coach. Being let go with a contract in place means that the institution has to pay some form of severance (assuming it is defined in the contract) or negotiate a final payment plan to the coach. What coach (or really anyone) in their right mind is going to give up a significant severance payment for no reason? Coaches have to support themselves and their families like anyone else. It is incumbent on the institution to initiate a performance based termination, not the coach to resign - don't blame her for not leaving sooner, blame Union for keeping her on (and continuing to give her contract extensions).
There is little incentive for a coach to quit for performance related reasons, especially if they have a contract as was suggested last season with this coach. Being let go with a contract in place means that the institution has to pay some form of severance (assuming it is defined in the contract) or negotiate a final payment plan to the coach. What coach (or really anyone) in their right mind is going to give up a significant severance payment for no reason? Coaches have to support themselves and their families like anyone else. It is incumbent on the institution to initiate a performance based termination, not the coach to resign - don't blame her for not leaving sooner, blame Union for keeping her on (and continuing to give her contract extensions).
giwan
Really??!!
Re: Union
Oh it's fully on Union. I believe if left alone she would have finished her contract
Oh it's fully on Union. I believe if left alone she would have finished her contract
It was a tough situation for her because once she was there for a few years and no significant improvements in the win-loss record were taking place she would have realized it just wasn't working out for her there but then if she looked for another head coaching job somewhere else who was going to hire her? Not another D1 school so maybe a D3 school or a prep school but then she probably would have had to take a fairly big cut in salary so it was a catch-22 situation for her. She became literally stuck in a no win situation.
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giwan
Really??!!
Agreed and where is she now? Really career change time.
Exactly. No win coaching situation forces a career change whether she wanted one or not. I have to admit I was one of her many critics going back to when she was first hired based on no previous head coaching experience but I do feel sorry for her.
Re: Union
Claudia is not alone in being one and done (if that's the case). Ronn Tommasoni went from assistant to head coach of the Harvard men's program and when he was dismissed (or left by mutual agreement), he didn't resurface to my knowledge in any D-1 program. It happens.
Begs the question; what do people consider to be a good career track for an aspiring female hockey coach? Are there programs out there that will provide opportunities for newbies? Is high school or prep the way to go? How about a mentoring program? Just asking because I'm not familiar with anything formal.
Claudia is not alone in being one and done (if that's the case). Ronn Tommasoni went from assistant to head coach of the Harvard men's program and when he was dismissed (or left by mutual agreement), he didn't resurface to my knowledge in any D-1 program. It happens.
Begs the question; what do people consider to be a good career track for an aspiring female hockey coach? Are there programs out there that will provide opportunities for newbies? Is high school or prep the way to go? How about a mentoring program? Just asking because I'm not familiar with anything formal.
giwan
Really??!!
Re: Union
You would think logically it's being well involved as an asst women's coach, then moving to a head coach. Maybe DIII to DI?
Is the issue the route to take or how and who picks the next coach? Key attributes, organization, passion in the game and maybe in the women's game specifically, and want/willingness to really work at it. Biggest issue I see in coaching failures at any sport and level are not setting your players up to succeed. You run your system regardless of the players skill at that system. Coach unwilling to change their system to the players they have.
I would be willing to bet that you can change some top level team with a different coach. Run a forced system that does not match their skills and find you are not winning.
You would think logically it's being well involved as an asst women's coach, then moving to a head coach. Maybe DIII to DI?
Is the issue the route to take or how and who picks the next coach? Key attributes, organization, passion in the game and maybe in the women's game specifically, and want/willingness to really work at it. Biggest issue I see in coaching failures at any sport and level are not setting your players up to succeed. You run your system regardless of the players skill at that system. Coach unwilling to change their system to the players they have.
I would be willing to bet that you can change some top level team with a different coach. Run a forced system that does not match their skills and find you are not winning.