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Union College: 2017-2018

Re: Union College: 2017-2018

It does operate as an "unwritten rule" in college hockey, particular now. It wasn't unusual back in the day to see ridiculous blow out scores but coaches have a lot more restraint now. The end of a blow out is always dangerous not just because of tempers but because players don't tend to be as alert and that's when injuries happen. Coaches often all but sit their top lines and pairings then, so it kinda takes care of itself.

Unless you're Rand Pecknold.
 
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Dutchman said:
I am still learning the game of college hockey and was wondering about situations where one team "runs up the score" on another when a game is clearly out of reach. According to the 5 Unwritten Rules of Hockey https://www.minnesotahockey.org/news_article/show/213427?referrer_id=80470

Show sportsmanship when you have a big lead late in a game.

"Running up the score sends a bad message ..... It’s poor sportsmanship."
" ... there’s no need to have a big celebration when someone scores to make it 7-0. Keep it classy."

Being up 5-0 against Brown with about 10 minutes to go, is it necessary to keep your first two lines in there firing away? More scores for Veronneau and Kuffner? And then to go and have a big celebration after scoring goals 6 and 7? Is this sportsmanship?

Being up 7-2 against Dartmouth in the third, was it necessary for Kuffner and Veronneau to keep piling it on making it 9-2?

I can appreciate going all out for 60 minutes, but couldn't a coach maybe keep the 4th line in their a little longer? In the book, "Blue Ice: The Story of Michigan Hockey" it talks about Coach Heyliger (Spencer Penrose and Hockey Hall of Fame) and his impact on not just on Michigan but also all of College Hockey. The idea of "running up the score" was completely foreign to him.
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You're the last ones to know anything about sportsmanship. Whether on the winning or losing end. And especially when you know the league won't punish you.
 
Re: Union College: 2017-2018

Men's Hockey - Princeton/ECAC Quarterfinals Preview (March 9-11, 2018)
Head coach Rick Bennett, and juniors Sebastian Vidmar, Cole Maier and Brett Supinski talk with the media about the upcoming playoff series against Princeton.
https://youtu.be/9zaQNjmPt50
 
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Here comes Princeton !!!!
Ron Fogarty explains how he is going to beat us.
Kuffner & Véronneau Earn Milestones; Princeton Heads to ECAC Quarterfinals
https://youtu.be/MpVR0qwC7yQ

Great video - this is a team that is brimming with self confidence, almost giddy.
Top Line - Kuffner, Veronneau and Richie - Three of the 12 players from Ontario, Canada. Two years ago this was the much talked about remarkably skilled freshman line.
According to Ron Fogarty, "We just have to maintain to have the right structure against Union on the defensive side which allows us to score goals or have opportunities ... we are going to have to get the puck behind their defence and attack them down low and have a "shot first" mentality". Sounds pretty simple to me. Veronneau says "If we play the way we did the last two weekends we should be fine... " Piece of cake !!!!

This is a hockey team that is really "full of itself". Interesting that Eric Robinson, the Captain and a very good player in his own right, was not in the video.

I hope someone plays this video in our locker room. Friday cannot come soon enough.

PS - Fogarty's boast about 9-2-1 in the past 12 ... 6 of those 9 wins came against RPI, Brown and St. Lawrence. Princeton is 1-6-1 against the top 4 ECAC teams
 
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With the incredible parity in ECAC College Hockey (and for that matter, all of college hockey), it's best to approach each opponent with a little bit of humility and a great deal of respect.
 
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http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=399354

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m excited to announce my commitment to play D1 hockey at Union College. Thanks to everyone who has helped me along the way! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoDutchmen?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoDutchmen</a> <a href="https://t.co/beIcIfgdmV">pic.twitter.com/beIcIfgdmV</a></p>— Liam Robertson (@liamrobertson77) <a href="https://twitter.com/liamrobertson77/status/971180010546450434?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Dutchman said:
From the Princetonian

http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/ar...destroys-brown-advances-to-ecac-quarterfinals

Men’s hockey destroys Brown, advances to ECAC Quarterfinals
The Tigers took care of business and set up a rematch with Union
By Christopher Murphy | Mar 5, 2018

A lengthy article detailing how Princeton destroyed Brown with lots of chest thumping and loud boasting (Brown was 55th in the nation in scoring and 49th in defence - against the top 4 teams in the ECAC, Princeton is 1-6-1).

Then comes the very stern warning to us.

The Tigers will be looking to exorcise some demons against the Dutchmen, who not only swept the season series against the Tigers this year but ended the Tigers’ season last year in the ECAC Quarterfinals with a one-goal overtime win. However, after watching these games, perhaps the Dutchmen are feeling just a bit more nervous about the impending series.

Nervous? How about feeling hungry ;)
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This is obviously a case of "Convincing themselves" before they have to convince anyone else..
There just is no humility in Jersey....
 
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These teams met last year in the quarterfinals, with the Dutchmen sweeping the Tigers. In fact, the last 20 matchups of the teams have belonged to Union. It is 17-0-3 in that time frame, with Princeton's last win coming in game three of a 2009 ECAC quarterfinal series.
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I had to look that up since I didn't believe it. Sure enough, Princeton's last win against us was in Game 3 of the 2009 QFs. Stuff like that makes me nervous. :eek:
 
Re: Union College: 2017-2018

Defence - tenacious unrelenting defence.
Championship calibre defence.
Forecheck - don't let them out of their own zone. Make them play defence. Stay on offence.
Take away time and space
Stay out of the penalty box. We have vastly improved. Keep it up!
Can we shut them out? Impossible?
Pour it on for 60 minutes

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Help Kupsky - block shots - they are going to be throwing everything at him.
 
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Dutchman said:
Defence - tenacious unrelenting defence.
Championship calibre defence.
Forecheck - don't let them out of their own zone. Make them play defence. Stay on offence.
Take away time and space
Stay out of the penalty box. We have vastly improved. Keep it up!
Can we shut them out? Impossible?
Pour it on for 60 minutes

and

Help Kupsky - block shots - they are going to be throwing everything at him.
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defence?? - That's British right?? Do they even play hockey?? .. :)
at least go Dutch achterhoede or defensie
 
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Pokey said:
defence?? - That's British right?? Do they even play hockey?? .. :)
at least go Dutch achterhoede or defensie
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Not my fault ... my spell checker did it. ;) Must have some UK code buried in there somewhere :D

Defence and defense are different spellings of the same word. Defense is preferred in American English, and defence is preferred in all other main varieties of English, including Australian, British, and Canadian English. The spelling distinction extends to most derivatives of defence/defense, including defences/defenses and defenceless/defenseless. But the words defensive, defensiveness, and defensively have an s everywhere.
 
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Dutchman said:
Not my fault ... my spell checker did it. ;) Must have some UK code buried in there somewhere :D

Defence and defense are different spellings of the same word. Defense is preferred in American English, and defence is preferred in all other main varieties of English, including Australian, British, and Canadian English. The spelling distinction extends to most derivatives of defence/defense, including defences/defenses and defenceless/defenseless. But the words defensive, defensiveness, and defensively have an s everywhere.
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I agree with everything you said and no matter how they spell it - they have to play it well.... go U
 
Re: Union College: 2017-2018

Princeton played with confidence throughout the game to overcome two Union leads and didn't ease up on their offensive pressure. Many Union turnovers became shots against within seconds after a couple of crisp passes. Princeton reminds me of the Dutchmen from last year with two very talented forwards upfront. It was still a very close game tonight and should be a good one tomorrow too.
 
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Tough loss. I don't think Union played all that badly, but not well enough obviously. Kupsky had little chance on that Veronneau rocket that tied the game at 1-1. The go ahead goal that made it 4-3 seemed to happen so fast that it was already by Kupsky before he knew what was going on.

Union was unbeaten in its last 20 games against Princeton going back to 2009. That streak was bound to come to an eventually.

I thought this series was likely to go 3 games since the matchup came together last weekend. Still feel that way.
 
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Princeton played well, confident, feet moving and accurate crisp passes.. Union looked like a team that either played 2 games yesterday or hadn't played at all in a month

Forecheck was loopy, guys falling down on quick turns, passes that were always just off - even line changes were slow ..
Foo being out from early in the first threw off line combos and certainly didn't help...
but that is why it's best of three..
 
Pokey said:
Princeton played well, confident, feet moving and accurate crisp passes.. Union looked like a team that either played 2 games yesterday or hadn't played at all in a month

Forecheck was loopy, guys falling down on quick turns, passes that were always just off - even line changes were slow ..
Foo being out from early in the first threw off line combos and certainly didn't help...
but that is why it's best of three..
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I can’t argue with this. Combined with Princeton’s sharp play, I was surprised the game was as close as it was. In no way do I pin this loss on Kupsky, but he usually stops those shots in his sleep (referring to Grande’s game-winner).

It seemed like every break-out pass was challenged and turned over into a Princeton scoring chance. It also seemed like Union could never settle the puck down and make a crisp, clean pass. The puck was bouncing all over the place.

They usually play better on Saturdays, but they’ll really need to be sharp tonight. Princeton has even more confidence than we all thought they did.
 
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