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Union College: 2017-2018
- Thread starter Dutchman
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Re: Union College: 2017-2018
I think it’s clear that Union can match up with Cornell anywhere. Both games (save for the first period at Lynah) showed me that Union had an answer for Cornell’s physical play and defense.
In the end of it all, I think a lot of us would have signed up for second place in this league after the 0-5 start to the season. Well done boys!!!
I think it’s clear that Union can match up with Cornell anywhere. Both games (save for the first period at Lynah) showed me that Union had an answer for Cornell’s physical play and defense.
In the end of it all, I think a lot of us would have signed up for second place in this league after the 0-5 start to the season. Well done boys!!!
AnthonySaxe
New member
Re: Union College: 2017-2018
Cornell only had 7 shots. Union had 16. You can't block shots when you're the one with the puck.
Cornell only had 7 shots. Union had 16. You can't block shots when you're the one with the puck.
Re: Union College: 2017-2018
In ice hockey, a shot on goal is a shot that directs the puck towards the net and either goes into the net for a goal or is stopped by the goaltender for a save. A shot that is deflected wide or blocked by an opponent does not count as a shot on goal, rather it is recorded as a blocked shot.
Total Shot attempts = Blocked shots + Missed the net wide + Shots that hit the post + Saves + Goals
You must have learned your hockey at St Rose ???
In ice hockey, a shot on goal is a shot that directs the puck towards the net and either goes into the net for a goal or is stopped by the goaltender for a save. A shot that is deflected wide or blocked by an opponent does not count as a shot on goal, rather it is recorded as a blocked shot.
Total Shot attempts = Blocked shots + Missed the net wide + Shots that hit the post + Saves + Goals
You must have learned your hockey at St Rose ???
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Re: Union College: 2017-2018
A great closing ceremony for Senior Night. Scarfo did a superb job giving his heartfelt thanks and credit for the team's success to Ainlay, Messa, Parents, Fans, and Fellow Team Members and it was a great idea taking a team photo with all of them. I don't know how we do it. Kupsky has really stepped up.
A great closing ceremony for Senior Night. Scarfo did a superb job giving his heartfelt thanks and credit for the team's success to Ainlay, Messa, Parents, Fans, and Fellow Team Members and it was a great idea taking a team photo with all of them. I don't know how we do it. Kupsky has really stepped up.
Re: Union College: 2017-2018
In 2012-2013 Brown was 7-9-6 in Conference play vs 7-14-1 today. In the ECAC tournament, they "went on a tear" and in the first round defeated Clarkson in 2. They then travelled to Troy to take on a championship calibre RPI team and defeated them in 3 and then defeated Qpac in Atlantic City in the ECAC semifinals. We barely beat them in the ECAC finals. Nothing is certain in the ECAC.
In 2012-2013 Brown was 7-9-6 in Conference play vs 7-14-1 today. In the ECAC tournament, they "went on a tear" and in the first round defeated Clarkson in 2. They then travelled to Troy to take on a championship calibre RPI team and defeated them in 3 and then defeated Qpac in Atlantic City in the ECAC semifinals. We barely beat them in the ECAC finals. Nothing is certain in the ECAC.
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Re: Union College: 2017-2018
Dutch, think he meant they had sixteen shots so they had the puck so much they couldn't block any shots, maybe ? Cornell had only seven, hence not many attempts to block.
Dutch, think he meant they had sixteen shots so they had the puck so much they couldn't block any shots, maybe ? Cornell had only seven, hence not many attempts to block.
AnthonySaxe
New member
Re: Union College: 2017-2018
Yeah, you have to say it really, really slow for Dutchman to have any chance of understanding it. You, of course, had no problem understanding it.
As for the sad and senile rant on TSA, which addresses nothing, Union also had over twenty more attempted shots than Cornell because we had the puck most of the night. Again, you can't block shots when you have the puck. But thank you for bringing up a 2nd stat you don't understand that proves the opposite of whatever you think your point was.
Yeah, you have to say it really, really slow for Dutchman to have any chance of understanding it. You, of course, had no problem understanding it.
As for the sad and senile rant on TSA, which addresses nothing, Union also had over twenty more attempted shots than Cornell because we had the puck most of the night. Again, you can't block shots when you have the puck. But thank you for bringing up a 2nd stat you don't understand that proves the opposite of whatever you think your point was.
Atlanta probably doesn’t know that colleges play hockey.
I think Dutchman was referring to 2013. Brown’s tear included beating the regular season champ Quinnipiac in the semifinals.
Re: Union College: 2017-2018
It was 2013 when Brown was 7-9-6 in conference play. That was the one and only time they hosted a first-round playoff series going all the way back to the 2005-06 season. They went to the ECAC Championship game that year in Atlantic City (the final year it was in New Jersey before moving back to Lake Placid), losing to Union (2nd year of an ECAC 3-peat for you guys).
It was 2013 when Brown was 7-9-6 in conference play. That was the one and only time they hosted a first-round playoff series going all the way back to the 2005-06 season. They went to the ECAC Championship game that year in Atlantic City (the final year it was in New Jersey before moving back to Lake Placid), losing to Union (2nd year of an ECAC 3-peat for you guys).
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Union College: 2017-2018
Agreed on this. Union and Clarkson each match up with us extremely well this year. Assuming we all get to LP it's anybody's tournament. Congrats on the win and the fine season so far.
Agreed on this. Union and Clarkson each match up with us extremely well this year. Assuming we all get to LP it's anybody's tournament. Congrats on the win and the fine season so far.
UnionHockeyManiac
Union Hockey fan for life
Re: Union College: 2017-2018
According to this, we only have a 2% chance of getting an at-large bid:
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/probabilityMatrix.php
Looks like we’ll have to win the ECAC Tourney to get to the National Tourney. Just need to win 4 games...
According to this, we only have a 2% chance of getting an at-large bid:
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/probabilityMatrix.php
Looks like we’ll have to win the ECAC Tourney to get to the National Tourney. Just need to win 4 games...
Can’t disagree, but it’s all we had...so I’ll rephrase...is anyone streaming the games?
Re: Union College: 2017-2018
Borrowed from the Cornell Hockey Blog ELynah Forum
Monday, February 26th, 2018
http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,213970
Cornell at Union, 2/24/18
Posted by KGR11
Re: Cornell at Union, 2/24/18
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: February 25, 2018 11:30AM
So a copy of a letter that I'm sending to Union's president.
Dear President Ainlay,
This past weekend I attended the Cornell University at Union College hockey game.
Although the hockey game was very exciting, and unfortunately my team lost, I was very upset by the way that our pep band was treated. Our pep band regularly travels to away men’s hockey games. Unfortunately I feel that the pep band was mistreated in a way that I have never seen from any other school.
The following discussion was obtained by talking to various members of the band and the band director. Because I was not privy to the exact conversation, it is possible that there are some inaccuracies, although I think the general tenor of the conversation is correct.
Upon setting up and getting ready to play before the game, the band director was approached by someone from the rink staff and given specific guidelines about when they could play. They were told that they could not play as the team was coming onto the ice before each period. Also they could not play our alma mater, which is traditionally done during the second intermission. Initially they were told that the only time they could play was after we scored a goal. Our band director said he eventually negotiated that they could play 3 times during each period.
I know there were other discussions that I’m not aware of, but I think the restrictions that were put on our band were excessive and unlike any that I have seen at other rinks. Maybe there was a good reason for these, although I certainly can’t imagine what it would be.
I hope you would agree that college bands add a lot to the enjoyment of these amateur events. Having watched Cornell hockey games for over 50 years, including having been to every ECAC rink, as well as many from other conferences, I have never experienced anything even remotely similar to what happened this past Saturday night. In fact, to the best of my knowledge, this has never happened at Union College before.
Maybe it is within Union’s right to impose these restrictions, but it certainly takes away from the enjoyment and atmosphere of a college hockey game. Because I do not know what rules the ECAC has for these matters, I’m sending a copy of this to Mr. Stephen Hagwell, as well as our band director and our athletic director.
I’m sure that you have more important matters to attend to, but I felt that sending this email to you would be the most efficient way of getting it to whoever is responsible.
Also, because I’m sure that you get a great many emails, I’m also sending you a mailed copy of this letter.
I appreciate your reading this and I would be happy to discuss this with you. In that regard I have included my cell phone number.
Yours truly,
James Hyla
Cornell University ‘67
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Borrowed from the Cornell Hockey Blog ELynah Forum
Monday, February 26th, 2018
http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,213970
Cornell at Union, 2/24/18
Posted by KGR11
Re: Cornell at Union, 2/24/18
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: February 25, 2018 11:30AM
So a copy of a letter that I'm sending to Union's president.
Dear President Ainlay,
This past weekend I attended the Cornell University at Union College hockey game.
Although the hockey game was very exciting, and unfortunately my team lost, I was very upset by the way that our pep band was treated. Our pep band regularly travels to away men’s hockey games. Unfortunately I feel that the pep band was mistreated in a way that I have never seen from any other school.
The following discussion was obtained by talking to various members of the band and the band director. Because I was not privy to the exact conversation, it is possible that there are some inaccuracies, although I think the general tenor of the conversation is correct.
Upon setting up and getting ready to play before the game, the band director was approached by someone from the rink staff and given specific guidelines about when they could play. They were told that they could not play as the team was coming onto the ice before each period. Also they could not play our alma mater, which is traditionally done during the second intermission. Initially they were told that the only time they could play was after we scored a goal. Our band director said he eventually negotiated that they could play 3 times during each period.
I know there were other discussions that I’m not aware of, but I think the restrictions that were put on our band were excessive and unlike any that I have seen at other rinks. Maybe there was a good reason for these, although I certainly can’t imagine what it would be.
I hope you would agree that college bands add a lot to the enjoyment of these amateur events. Having watched Cornell hockey games for over 50 years, including having been to every ECAC rink, as well as many from other conferences, I have never experienced anything even remotely similar to what happened this past Saturday night. In fact, to the best of my knowledge, this has never happened at Union College before.
Maybe it is within Union’s right to impose these restrictions, but it certainly takes away from the enjoyment and atmosphere of a college hockey game. Because I do not know what rules the ECAC has for these matters, I’m sending a copy of this to Mr. Stephen Hagwell, as well as our band director and our athletic director.
I’m sure that you have more important matters to attend to, but I felt that sending this email to you would be the most efficient way of getting it to whoever is responsible.
Also, because I’m sure that you get a great many emails, I’m also sending you a mailed copy of this letter.
I appreciate your reading this and I would be happy to discuss this with you. In that regard I have included my cell phone number.
Yours truly,
James Hyla
Cornell University ‘67
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
iowabasedtraveler
Well-known member
Re: Union College: 2017-2018
RE: Cornell's pep band...
I love college pep bands and think, in general, that they do add value, ambiance and excitement at games.
Having said that, I find Cornell's pep band to be amongst the most rude in all of college hockey.
Yelling "YOU SUCK!" (and other stupidities) at referees and opposing teams when they take the ice at the start of the night doesn't seem like NCAA/ECAC 'good sportsmanship' to me.
I have seen them do this at home and on the road this season.
Of course, I also find Cornell fans and students, in general, to be quite rude.
The whole shake-the-newspaper thingee during opposing team introductions seems weird (and boorish) to me, as does crinkling up the newspapers and throwing them on the ice after intro's at Lynah.
I think they call that 'tradition,' as rink crews are always prepared to go out and clean up the ice immediately afterwards.
And, yet, I have friends that are 25-year Cornell season ticket-holders that complain about the lack of sportsmanship of other teams, fans, coaches, etc.
I just think the whole concept (good sportsmanship vs. bad sportsmanship at college hockey games) is interesting.
And, indirectly, it ties into rules for hosting (rude) pep bands.
RE: Cornell's pep band...
I love college pep bands and think, in general, that they do add value, ambiance and excitement at games.
Having said that, I find Cornell's pep band to be amongst the most rude in all of college hockey.
Yelling "YOU SUCK!" (and other stupidities) at referees and opposing teams when they take the ice at the start of the night doesn't seem like NCAA/ECAC 'good sportsmanship' to me.
I have seen them do this at home and on the road this season.
Of course, I also find Cornell fans and students, in general, to be quite rude.
The whole shake-the-newspaper thingee during opposing team introductions seems weird (and boorish) to me, as does crinkling up the newspapers and throwing them on the ice after intro's at Lynah.
I think they call that 'tradition,' as rink crews are always prepared to go out and clean up the ice immediately afterwards.
And, yet, I have friends that are 25-year Cornell season ticket-holders that complain about the lack of sportsmanship of other teams, fans, coaches, etc.
I just think the whole concept (good sportsmanship vs. bad sportsmanship at college hockey games) is interesting.
And, indirectly, it ties into rules for hosting (rude) pep bands.
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