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UNH Wildcats Official Wait til Next Year...14/15 thread

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Woo-hoo - 9th place!! A few seasons ago, that would have been first (only) team out of the HE postseason.

Baby steps for sure, but UNH did take care of business, albeit against a souped up former AHA team that's seen the air going out of its balloon down the stretch. Some real honest-to-goodness momentum at last, and with a pair of home games next weekend against the slumping Warriors, that 7 out of 8 points finish does not seem to be such a stretch any longer. Given UNH's overall inexperience, there can't be any games overlooked OR assumptions being made - or else there will be a split AND heavy reliance upon Providence to sweep UMaine. But prospects of a UNH v. UMaine first round series now appear to be a 90% certainty, if not higher (and no, I'm not doing any numbers-crunching to support that :) ) and UNH has it largely under their control to keep playing home games for one more weekend.

I'm still not sure I agree with Coach Umile's abandonment of Clark in goal, but he's clearly made a decision to roll with Tirone that he intends to follow through to the end of this season (and quite possibly beyond into next), and the on-ice results are trending in a better direction, so who's to question him at this point? I guess the frustrating part for me is that seeing him capable of making such a tough call (albeit involving two frosh goalies) only begs the question as to why he can't make similar tough calls when it comes to playing frosh players elsewhere in more important game situations than lesser-talented but older players?? :confused:

Anyway ... looking forward to a strong finish over the last weekend hosting Merrimack ... although I'll admit I do not expect the 'Cats to sweep, and if I had to bet the farm, I would say weekend after next would see UNH traveling to UMaine, instead of vice versa. Getting swept by the Black Bears will probably come back to haunt them when it comes to 8th ... but what better way to show the improvement this UNH team has shown since January than to go up to Orono and do some damage, and *maybe* even advance to the quarters?

With the return of Downing, the team is pretty much back to full strength, so let's see what they can do.
 
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I'm very happy to admit I was wrong!! The prediction of 4 wins in the last 10 games has been shattered by the weekend sweep of P/UCONN!! Next weekend looks to be very compelling and I hope to make it down to Durham for the Saturday game. Cleland is my new favorite player. Love his game! Kelleher, Camper and Poturalski aren't too shabby either.

How 'bout that Wildcat BBall team? Apparently they are getting a home playoff game at Lundholm. Nice job!!

We're on to Merrimack!
 
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Willows had a great game last night as did that entire line! Lots of incentives for next weekend for sure but we must give a full 60...esp against their GK who can be lights out. Happy for Cleland and Camper who had outstanding weekends.

Speaking of Tyler K believe he hit the 'half'century mark last night? Like Darius I'm a Friar fan this week although I will admit they are my HE "go to" team if all else fails �� (even tho they have a bizarre mascot)
Had to watch it on NESN thank God TC was not announcing! Pat Foley had warm comments about Coach U (as you'd expect) . Hope our top line keeps it up. Onward 'Cats!!
Ps NU: you had one job ��
Having PC as your #2, how cool is that?

Gotta cut NU a break, they went up to Orono and split which isn't easy, especially with one of their biggest games in decades just around the corner and this:
Getting swept by the Black Bears will probably come back to haunt them when it comes to 8th
 
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Woo-hoo - 9th place!!
Finally you have seen the light! We're number 9! We're number 9! We're number... ;)

I'm still not sure I agree with Coach Umile's abandonment of Clark in goal...
We've been in agreement on this one all along. I'd like to think Coach is sharing his reasoning with Clark, at a minimum not leaving him hanging. One thing based on limited in person viewing of the team is that our play seems to reflect the goalie's style. Perhaps coincidence but we've been more active and aggressive with DT in goal.

... why he can't make similar tough calls when it comes to playing frosh players elsewhere in more important game situations than lesser-talented but older players??
He can and does, just not the decisions many want.

... if I had to bet the farm, I would say weekend after next would see UNH traveling to UMaine, instead of vice versa.
My 3 week superstition is holding so I can't post my MC prediction. My farm bet would be home ice because we get help from Ref's Friars.
 
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While we are in 9th place, we are actually just where you would expect with the player development, particularly the freshmen forwards. On Defense, Furgele is better than I expected, and Chanter more raw than expected. Going forward, the defense and puck skill back there, is going to be critical, so Masonius will be a very good upgrade.

Going all hockydad with the "I told you sos" before the season is done (and ignoring where I am incorrect):
I think Clark's credentials never made him a great option, and although he is not the "5 games a year backup" like Wyer, Tirone always was the go to recruit:
http://board.uscho.com/showthread.p...-White-Whale&p=5931900&viewfull=1#post5931900
As for goaltending, my read is that Adam Clark will minimally push DeSmith, but I wouldn't count on him to be a regular. He's more talented than Wyer, but hasn't clearly elevated himself to be a presumptive starter at UNH -- I think Tirone in 2015 will be more likely to carry the load when DeSmith graduates.

http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?99859-UNH-Recruits-2012-2016&p=5936726&viewfull=1#post5936726
Eiserman
I didn't go with Winnik because he had a more finese than Eiserman, who is pretty limited. I agree that Radja is not a great comp, size wise, but I figure skill/production might be similar (20 points his first two years). Morrow was 6'2, with offensive skills, so more the body type.

McNicholas
Aikins was a left shot (hockeydb is incorrect), and his game was like McNicholas, setting up plays more than finishing. McNicholas may be taller, has a similar slight frame, and Aikins took 2 years to get good production -- I suspect McNicholas will have similar struggles his freshman year. Also, McNicholas is not a big scorer, only 12 goals in midgets, and a high of 23 in juniors this year.
Foegele
A though Gare was solid but was more heady than physical skills. I think of Foegele as having better tools, a mix of Winnik and Leblanc. As you say, better skater, not as large a frame. Leblanc came is as a true freshman, and I think Foegele will have greater playing time, but maybe a year ahead in scoring so that he has 15 points as a frosh (that Leblanc had as a soph), and 20-25 points as a soph.
Salvaggio
Salvaggio, probably similar in type to Josh Ciocco -- a good fifth forward recruit, with more skill than just a filler (like our other classes have been rounded out with). Ciocco became a top 2 line guy his senior year, and Salvaggio has the skill to do that, if needed, though you'd hope he is needed only for the 3rd line.

Shane Eiserman - MIKE RADJA/SCOTT MORROW
Warren Foegele - DANIEL WINNIK/PETER LEBLANC
Michael McNicholas - JUSTIN AIKINS/PHIL DESIMONE
Andrew Poturalski - MATT FORNATARO
Jason Salvaggio --.............................-JOSH PRUDDEN
Dylan Chanter - HARDOWA/JOE CHARLEBOIS
Cam Marks --..........................TYSON TEPLISKY/KEVIN KAPSTAD
John Furgele-..........................MATT CAMPANALE
Adam Clark - SEAN MATILE
 
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God I'm depressed now. 'Watcher has posted his like-for-likes below, and nowhere do I see our next Conklin, Ayers, Stafford, O'Brien, Krog, Bekar, Mowers, Collins or Saviano. Maybe those guys are incoming next season. :)
 
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Well, if it helps, if you could recreate this post for when Saviano was recruited, I'd have said "Scott Brown" - undersized Mass walk-on, recruited solely to get his best friend/teammate (Steve Leach/Mike Rossetti) ;)
 
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Having PC as your #2, how cool is that?

Gotta cut NU a break, they went up to Orono and split which isn't easy, especially with one of their biggest games in decades just around the corner and this:

Oh, just being snarky :p about NU and it's awesome they have done so well considering their start this season; wish them well in the Beanpot!! And truth be told...UNH had one job to do with Maine but we won't go there mk? But isn't that something it comes down to that. Oh well. That was then, this is now! Right now the sense I get from this team is that they feel good about where they are, no use looking back. I think it will be their best hockey coming up. Carpe Diem 'Cats!
 
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It was also nice to see former Wildcat (and current UConn assistant coach) Mike Souza interviewed between periods last night. I'll always remember big #7 as the left wing on the potent '99 line of Souza/Krog/Haydar that came up a goal short of the D-1 title. If memory serves, that line dug the 'Cats out of a 2-0 hole to UMaine with two goals to send the game to OT. Before that, Souza made an earlier impression with UNH as part of the "S" Line with RW Jason Shipulski and C John Sadowski.

IIRC Souza was another local HS kid who made the step up directly to D-1 (as would Collins and Saviano in the years that followed), a rarity these days (and not too common even back then). He was another guy who probably got the most out of his talent at UNH, and while he was a middle round NHL draft pick (Chicago?) I don't think he ever quite made it to the show, despite some pretty decent AHL seasons. Decent size and good hands, but his skating was suspect (at least at the next level).

Another "way back flashback" brought to you by the old school staffers at WIS Productions. :)
 
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Chuck, how can you have a flashback on Souza without mentioning the most important UNH goal (at the time) in 15 years involving Souza

http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/mens_hockey/articles/1998/03/30/mowers_powers_unh/

he also had the game tying goal in the 99 final.

I wonder if Sean Matile still thinks "Albany is the greatest city in the world." :D

Hate to admit I'd forgotten Souza was the set-up man on Mowers' '98 Regionals SHG OT winner. :o

I WAS pretty sure he scored the '99 game tying goal (I think Haydar had the other one, right?).

What exciting times those were. Brand new building, program on the rise, Coach had survived a serious health scare and was pushing the program to new heights, and the talent was plentiful. And rarely a shortage of goals. Hope the current generation gets to enjoy similar great moments in the not-too-distant future.

WAY better post than the last one. 'Watcher. You are back on my good list. :) ;)
 
Chuck, how can you have a flashback on Souza without mentioning the most important UNH goal (at the time) in 15 years involving Souza

http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/mens_hockey/articles/1998/03/30/mowers_powers_unh/

he also had the game tying goal in the 99 final.

I was one of the few in the house for those games. UNH crashed into the end of that year. That team couldn't deal with a trapping team. Just squeaked into the NCAAs. Wisconsin decided to try a skating game and although up 3-1 early would get hammered 7-4 as man could that UNH team skate. The ice was so soft in Albany that weekend, hard to believe UNH had the legs the next night.
 
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If this winter were not one for the ages, perhaps we would be reminiscing while smoking pipes in our rockers on the porch. But, I remember that 1999 NC game like it was yesterday. I watched on a friend's TV in Marlboro, Bobby B's home town. When Haydar scored the first UNH goal late in the second to cut the lead in half, I yelled, which sent one of my friend's two snoozing cats three feet straight up in the air. When Souza tied the score early in the third, I tried to muffle my excitement, and the same cat, which was now snoozing with one eye open, raised its head slightly as if to say "that's better." My friend taught her two cats to play floor hockey on the kitchen linoleum by tossing around a small plastic puck, which the cats loved to chase into the corners, just like the UNH "dump and chase strategy," batting at the puck with their paws until it popped back out into the middle of the floor. But, I digress. What I remember about Haydar's goal is that it was a shortie, with assists going to Souza annnnnnd.........


Conklin! I was certain that we would win the game after we tied, even after the game went into OT. I had to look up this next tidbit, as UNH beat UMO 48 to 39 in.........


SOG! And, Chuck's post got me curious about what Souza was doing between UNH and UConn, which sent me to the hockey db site, where I found that he indeed never made it to the NHL even for a game, but played in Europe between 2005 and 2011, followed by two years as assistant coach at Brown. Total points for his four years at UNH: 156, not too shabby.
 
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I WAS pretty sure he scored the '99 game tying goal (I think Haydar had the other one, right?).

Haydar's SH goal in that game was arguably the biggest goal in the program's history up until that point! One of those goals that is burned into your brain forever. Are you saying you didn't watch that game?
 
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My God, we've become Maine: living through memories.

Haydar's shorty we were down 2-0, and Maine got a two man advantage, controlling play all powerplay, about to go up 3-0. Conklin made a save, the rebound came to the Defenseman, who found Haydar coming out of the box for a breakaway.
 
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I was one of the few in the house for those games. UNH crashed into the end of that year. That team couldn't deal with a trapping team. Just squeaked into the NCAAs. Wisconsin decided to try a skating game and although up 3-1 early would get hammered 7-4 as man could that UNH team skate. The ice was so soft in Albany that weekend, hard to believe UNH had the legs the next night.
I was at that game against Wisconsin with my three sons. It was a very satisfying win as a fan since Wisco had beaten UNH three straight times in the tournament over the years starting with the 1977 overtime loss to Wisco! By the way you're right about the ice. It was one of those very warm early spring days.
 
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My God, we've become Maine: living through memories.

Haydar's shorty we were down 2-0, and Maine got a two man advantage, controlling play all powerplay, about to go up 3-0. Conklin made a save, the rebound came to the Defenseman, who found Haydar coming out of the box for a breakaway.

Yup. I can still see Haydar walking in on Michaud all alone and burying it. It was an awesome goal!
 
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Haydar's SH goal in that game was arguably the biggest goal in the program's history up until that point! One of those goals that is burned into your brain forever. Are you saying you didn't watch that game?

No, I definitely watched that one on TV, didn't make the trip to Anaheim ... in '98 I didn't make the trip to Albany (watched the BU game on TV), but did see the 'Cats crash and burn to Michigan in the FF semis in Boston, and then in '99 I took the whole family to Regionals in Worcester. Our eldest (now 25 and married) was 9 years old, and fell asleep in the 3rd period, but was awakened by the roar of the crowd from the OT winner by Haydar, dethroming D-1 champs Michigan to punch UNH's ticket to Anaheim.

Traveled to MSP for the '02 FF (I think we met at a nearby adult beverages establishment after the loss to UMaine in the semis IIRC?), and then traveled to Buffalo for the '03 FF. The other in-person highlights were the '79 ECAC Finals, and both HE Tourney title wins.

Left out of my UNH travelogue/CV are the countless postseason disappointments, especially those in ManchVegas.

Maybe this week we should nominate what we think were some of the biggest goals in the history of the program?

I'll get the list started, just using ones I was lucky enough to see in person, no particular order ...

* Bobby Gould's game winner in the '79 ECAC Finals, late in the 3rd period (17:17 by #17, IIRC?);
* Haydar's aforementioned OT GWG against Michigan in the '99 Worcester Regionals;
* Saviano's 3rd period goal (or was it Collins?) from the top of the slot in the '02 HE Finals vs. UMaine;
* Tyson Teplitsky's (double?) OT goal in the '03 HE Finals vs. BU (thanks, Ryan Whitney);
* Eric Boguniecki's (double?) OT goal in the '94 HE Quarters to eliminate BC in the final game at Snively (personal sentimental fave for me for multiple reasons, as you can imagine :) )

Sorry for my uncertainty on some of the finer details, including the '03 FF Semis win over Cornell ...
 
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