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UNH Wildcats 2016 Offseason Thread - Searching for Direction

Re: UNH Wildcats 2016 Offseason Thread - Searching for Direction

I'm on the record in favor of Holy Cross joining HE once NICC goes back to where they came from/belong.
 
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Chuck Murray said:
I'm on the record in favor of Holy Cross joining HE once NICC goes back to where they came from/belong.
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Chuck, I am in your camp as it is probably best fit of all possible schools. We have all the New England Catholic Schools with D1 credentials and HC is at least playing D1AA football. The kicker is shorter 90 minute drive than many other schools. It will take only a few more minutes than BC and much closer than Providence and the other state schools. It is a much shorter drive than RIT or Sacred Heart and Bentley is not a good fit (sorry Snively) for the league at present.
 
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UNH1932 said:
Chuck, I am in your camp as it is probably best fit of all possible schools. We have all the New England Catholic Schools with D1 credentials and HC is at least playing D1AA football. The kicker is shorter 90 minute drive than many other schools. It will take only a few more minutes than BC and much closer than Providence and the other state schools. It is a much shorter drive than RIT or Sacred Heart and Bentley is not a good fit (sorry Snively) for the league at present.
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I'm in agreement. As a Falcon alum ('83) who only casually follows their results, I'm patient to wait for the next opportunity to have the program move up to HE. Let them build their on-campus arena, build a serious fan base, win a couple of AHA titles, and then come see us. Hopefully by then UNH will be back at the top of the league - not part of the HE Doormat Welcoming Committee.
 
NCAA watcher said:
I would say Lowell and St.Lawrence are two succesful programs that avoid early commitments. Lowell has managed to get the kids, Hellenbuyck, Chapie, etc., who fell through the cracks in the NAHL. However, it is a very difficult needle to thread, and not a model I would like to follow. If you look at also-ran teams (Quinnipiac, Union, Providence) as they progress they typically take advantage of the higher regard in the hockey community and make more early commitments.

Speaking of recruiting profiles, I will be interested in seeing Ciocco's move to Brown. He knew the prep scene from USHR, then moved out west to a program that is very hard to recruit for. He got some older Western Canadian kids, so has those connections. He then branched out to Europe. Now, at Brown, I think he would be in a position to get the younger commits (they just committed a 00), and more New England based. Depending on how that works, those connections would all be of interest two years down the road.
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Without doing the research - I'll look deeper tomorrow - I don't see Lowell taking flyers on unproven kids as early in the process as UNH has of late. Lowell certainly seems happy to wait and follow a kids development, which I think is a great strategy for that type of recruit. Why jump on an Aaron O'Neill when you can follow and land a late-blooming Hausinger (who out scored Grasso in Des Moines and committed in March).

I want to see UNH aggressively target the top-tier recruit and then supplement their classes with late-bloomers. Right now they seem to be taking the opposite strategy and locking up the type of kid they could easily get down the road. It puts them in a position where they'd have to hit on every late target and where they may miss out on some of those legitimate targets because money is already tied up in prospects who may or may not have lived up to whatever limited flashes they showed...
 
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UNH32 said:
Chuck, I am in your camp as it is probably best fit of all possible schools. We have all the New England Catholic Schools with D1 credentials and HC is at least playing D1AA football. The kicker is shorter 90 minute drive than many other schools. It will take only a few more minutes than BC and much closer than Providence and the other state schools. It is a much shorter drive than RIT or Sacred Heart and Bentley is not a good fit (sorry Snively) for the league at present.
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Chuck Murray said:
I'm in agreement. As a Falcon alum ('83) who only casually follows their results, I'm patient to wait for the next opportunity to have the program move up to HE. Let them build their on-campus arena, build a serious fan base, win a couple of AHA titles, and then come see us. Hopefully by then UNH will be back at the top of the league - not part of the HE Doormat Welcoming Committee.
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As noted several times over the past few months, the new arena on Bentley's campus will not have the capacity required by the HEA, and no Excel Center or DCU nearby as an alternative. And, also as noted, the Falcons need to show some stamina in the post-season, which they have not done in several years.
 
Re: UNH Wildcats 2016 Offseason Thread - Searching for Direction

I guess I was wrong. A successful Football program does raise your College's profile, including being featured in the Washington Post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...librarians-money-outraging-critics/?tid=sm_tw

I got a call from a UNH student yesterday asking for a donation. I told them I was going to do so, but they seem all set now, having enough money to waste on a scoreboard that will benefit about 5,000 people, five times a year.
 
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Historically UNH has invested very little in athletics facilities, and it showed. It took 80 years to expand and renovate our 1936 facility into Wildcat Stadium – a superb, immersive experience for students and others. UNH now has a stadium that, while very modest compared to others in the country, is one every New Hampshire resident can be proud of. A facility like Wildcat Stadium is transformative to our campus experience in helping UNH to recruit the best and brightest students, build our campus and alumni community pride, and host events like Special Olympics and state high school championships that are as excellent as one would expect from a flagship state university.
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Best and brightest students? Hardly. Players? perhaps. Though we see with UNh football, they have managed that without the gold-plated stadium. And as we see at UNH hockey, the excuse of needing better and more facilities gets trotted out to cover bad decisions by management. Surely we have now seen that the Whit was way down the list of reasons that hockey slipped -- the majority being Umile not caring one "whit" about the process or the potential recruits.
 
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Go on a college tour. Any college. See if they highlight their sports and recreation facilities. If they don't, search them out and see what they look like.
 
Darius said:
Go on a college tour. Any college. See if they highlight their sports and recreation facilities. If they don't, search them out and see what they look like.
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Agreed, sports are a way a university builds pride and loyalty amongst the student population that hopefully carries over to when they become alumni. This, in turn, may generate donations. I don't see why this is even gaining much attention. The donor only made the stipulation that UNH put $100K towards the library. I don't see reading any complaints from his family as to the purchase of the scoreboard. Why should anyone else care? I don't understand why people like to tell others how to spend their money including in regards to UNH. The place looks much better now than when I went there. What people should be outraged at is that the state only supplies the University system with about 6% of their budget. The school is a public institution in name only.
 
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scoreboard said:
I don't see reading any complaints from his family as to the purchase of the scoreboard. Why should anyone else care? I don't understand why people like to tell others how to spend their money including in regards to UNH. The place looks much better now than when I went there.
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He had no family, which is why he gave it all away.
 
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scoreboard said:
Agreed, sports are a way a university builds pride and loyalty amongst the student population that hopefully carries over to when they become alumni. This, in turn, may generate donations. I don't see why this is even gaining much attention. The donor only made the stipulation that UNH put $100K towards the library. I don't see reading any complaints from his family as to the purchase of the scoreboard. Why should anyone else care? I don't understand why people like to tell others how to spend their money including in regards to UNH. The place looks much better now than when I went there. What people should be outraged at is that the state only supplies the University system with about 6% of their budget. The school is a public institution in name only.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The increased television exposure because of the stadium will put UNH on more high school students' radar.

There's a Facebook thread railing on the U for not using the money to update PCAC so I posted the campus master plan suggesting people search "center for the arts". Haters gonna hate.
 
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"A facility like Wildcat Stadium is transformative to our campus experience in helping UNH to recruit the best and brightest students,..."

NCAA watcher said:
Best and brightest students? Hardly.
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Are we talking about the best and the brightest or are we talking about kids who would be influenced in their choice of a college based on a football stadium? :rolleyes:

Complete load of....
 
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scoreboard said:
Why should anyone else care? I don't understand why people like to tell others how to spend their money including in regards to UNH.
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Because the university that many of us attended and/or support - perpetually hurting for money as others have pointed out - was handed a windfall that could have been used in so many areas and they squandered $1.5M of it on a videoboard for the football stadium.

And you really don't understand why we would say something about that? Seriously?
 
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E.J. Smith said:
"A facility like Wildcat Stadium is transformative to our campus experience in helping UNH to recruit the best and brightest students,..."



Are we talking about the best and the brightest or are we talking about kids who would be influenced in their choice of a college based on a football stadium? :rolleyes:

Complete load of....
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Millennials all believe that they are the best and brightest.
 
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Darius said:
Millennials all believe that they are the best and brightest.
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My concern isn't with what millennials do or don't believe - that's a crazy-@zz losing battle if ever there was one, it's with the self-delusional beliefs and/or outright used car salesman sleazy approach of the UNH Athletic Department as evidenced by that press release they put out.
 
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OK, for those still paying attention ... a show of hands for those who whined for years/decades about the absence of the now-fabled Borisenok Jumbotron at The Whitt until this past season (Facility Year 21)?

Lots of you, right?

So let me get this straight ... UNH is building a stadium after 80 (!) years of the abysmal NHIAA D-3 facility they've had. They spring for a $1+MM video board while they're at it. What's the big deal? Was the expectation to wait 20+ years 'til Chip Kelly, Corey Graham, Bill Bowes, or Ricky Santos' dad gifts it to them?

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Yes, the guy left them a huge gift. It's very clear that he specifically only wanted $100K to be earmarked for the Dimond Library. For a guy who apparently had a lot of time to plan his estate, that seems to be a pretty clear directive, no? And notwithstanding all of that, UNH still decided to allocate $2.5MM of the gift to non-athletics departments/facilities. Don't get me wrong - I don't buy the BS about how the donor turned into a raging football fanatic in the assisted living facility. The decision-makers at UNH were no doubt worrying about the arrival of the Social Justice Warriors Local 03824 brother/sisterhood to descend, tut-tutting about their misplaced priorities (which of course has now happened). :rolleyes:

I've taken my share of swings at UNH for a lot of different issues, but this won't be one of them.
 
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