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UNH Wildcats 2016-17 -- We're Going to Have a Hockey Season Here!!

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I know it was a typo but Snively 65 knows that Snively opened in February 1965. My long time theory surrounding the mania at Snively during the early days, through the early 80's really, was the lack of alternative entertainment in Durham back then. Fewer kids had cars back then, there was no internet, there were no cell phones, in fact there was no cable TV. You could enjoy yourself, especially on the weekends, but for a lot,of students, weekend nights got,off to a rousing start with a visit to Lively Snively.

Nailed it. Even in the horrid late 80's/early 90's, we very much looked forward to being in the barn.
 
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I know it was a typo but Snively 65 knows that Snively opened in February 1965. My long time theory surrounding the mania at Snively during the early days, through the early 80's really, was the lack of alternative entertainment in Durham back then. Fewer kids had cars back then, there was no internet, there were no cell phones, in fact there was no cable TV. You could enjoy yourself, especially on the weekends, but for a lot,of students, weekend nights got,off to a rousing start with a visit to Lively Snively.

I was just remarking that the Phish concert was in 1994, the last year that Snively was Snively. And, of course, we have written ad nauseam on our threads about who scored the last goal at Snively; I was there right to the end and always thought that it was Bogie, but others have said no.

But, I agree entirely with your other points, Greg, which I was trying to say in my earlier posts above; these modern distractions to student attendance at college hockey games are not unique to the Whitt, and alum fan bases are sadly undergoing attrition at both ends of the age spectrum.
 
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I was just remarking that the Phish concert was in 1994, the last year that Snively was Snively. And, of course, we have written ad nauseam on our threads about who scored the last goal at Snively; I was there right to the end and always thought that it was Bogie, but others have said no.

As someone who was also there for that epic HE quarterfinal double OT victory over BC :) :) yes, it was Boguniecki (nicely assisted by Tim Murray). I never realized there was even a question about it?
 
As someone who was also there for that epic HE quarterfinal double OT victory over BC :) :) yes, it was Boguniecki (nicely assisted by Tim Murray). I never realized there was even a question about it?

Obviously they were not there, Chuck. But, Snively was packed and rockin' for that one.
 
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Totally agree with this assessment. The student section has been down all season. It was actually very solid last year and loud, so I'm not sure what has diminished the attendance so far.
Snivley was just a totally different venue. What really got the crowd going was the ability to just SIT and stamp their feet and make the building rattle. it was so easy to make an incredible racket and the rest can then just come naturally. As others have noted, the old crowd now attending just can't raise the rafters at the Whitt. The crowd estimates are reasonably accurate with the MC game being an embarrassment. I am always surprised in how long it does take to fill the seats with the final crowd. Yes it is more difficult to get there on Friday but I look up from ice level at about 10 minutes before the start and can not believe how few are in there seats. At about 7:20 you kind of have the crowd you will have.
Bottom line, the promotions of the live game is what stinks. The channel 11 games of old where good because it was often the only way to see a game. But now between Bin and NESN you can see a lot of games, streaming is big and now you can stream for free. With all of these alternatives available, it is clear to me why we are not getting the casual fan to race home, put on their winter clothes and head out.
Headlines in the sports pages are not worded in ways that get a lukewarm audience in the building.

Was thinking about this last night after reading some post and had a couple of thoughts about the lack of enthusiasm. As been mentioned before the easy access to alternative stuff. There is so much going on and easy access to everything that a hockey game in no longer an event is another thing to do. Something to do these days isn’t always leaving your living room, more and more stuff to do at home with everything on line. Also was thinking of the students and when you think about it they all have been raised in a time when they are used to their teams winning, how many championship from New England teams in their life times? I know sounds kind of an easy answer but are they just spoiled and will not watch a losing team to build an attachment to that team and ride them till they hopefully win? See a lot of bandwagon fans these days and no one sticks with a team building. I know that is a great generality but seems to be true. Have a couple of bad years and people will move on to another team or even sport to ride a winner. Then of course there is what is happening on the ice, as we all know the beginning of the year lead to no excitement and no buzz. Hopefully some exciting game will lead to a little extra buzz. Will we see the days of the Whitt rocking and shaking again? I doubt it. Might happen if they go one some historic run and the casual fans jump on the bandwagon, and will disappear when that run is over. What we are finding out now who are the real die hards, as some one who has been a Blue Jays fan since 1982 know I will be there for the good and bad times. Here is hoping the good times are right around the corner
 
Obviously they were not there, Chuck. But, Snively was packed and rockin' for that one.

I was at the game as well. And in fact, after Bogey scored the winning goal the TV camera panned the crowd and showed my face. But I have to say, I don't remember that Snively was packed to the rafters. I have a DVD converted from tape of that game. I'll have to look at it and report back.
 
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Was thinking about this last night after reading some post and had a couple of thoughts about the lack of enthusiasm. As been mentioned before the easy access to alternative stuff. There is so much going on and easy access to everything that a hockey game in no longer an event is another thing to do. Something to do these days isn’t always leaving your living room, more and more stuff to do at home with everything on line. Also was thinking of the students and when you think about it they all have been raised in a time when they are used to their teams winning, how many championship from New England teams in their life times? I know sounds kind of an easy answer but are they just spoiled and will not watch a losing team to build an attachment to that team and ride them till they hopefully win? See a lot of bandwagon fans these days and no one sticks with a team building. I know that is a great generality but seems to be true. Have a couple of bad years and people will move on to another team or even sport to ride a winner. Then of course there is what is happening on the ice, as we all know the beginning of the year lead to no excitement and no buzz. Hopefully some exciting game will lead to a little extra buzz. Will we see the days of the Whitt rocking and shaking again? I doubt it. Might happen if they go one some historic run and the casual fans jump on the bandwagon, and will disappear when that run is over. What we are finding out now who are the real die hards, as some one who has been a Blue Jays fan since 1982 know I will be there for the good and bad times. Here is hoping the good times are right around the corner

Nifty16, like your take and feel that your thoughts on being spoiled by "winning teams" could certainly be a contributing factor. We are also in an era of instant gratification and a losing team or one without a compelling reason to watch is tough to get on board with if you are not a fan of the team vs just a fan of winning hockey..
Lots to be concerned about and those who are unhappy can make a strong case for creating a different path. But I am still very excited and can't wait for a 2 game weekend at home. Was at UMass and have to say, we don't travel as well as we use to. Crowds have dropped significantly at all away games and that too is understandable. Tuesday at BC will be a very tough ride into Boston, but I wouldn't miss it.
 
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Nifty16, like your take and feel that your thoughts on being spoiled by "winning teams" could certainly be a contributing factor. We are also in an era of instant gratification and a losing team or one without a compelling reason to watch is tough to get on board with if you are not a fan of the team vs just a fan of winning hockey..
Lots to be concerned about and those who are unhappy can make a strong case for creating a different path. But I am still very excited and can't wait for a 2 game weekend at home. Was at UMass and have to say, we don't travel as well as we use to. Crowds have dropped significantly at all away games and that too is understandable. Tuesday at BC will be a very tough ride into Boston, but I wouldn't miss it.

Much easier than the Whitt for me, so I will be there.
 
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I was at the game as well. And in fact, after Bogey scored the winning goal the TV camera panned the crowd and showed my face. But I have to say, I don't remember that Snively was packed to the rafters. I have a DVD converted from tape of that game. I'll have to look at it and report back.

Save yourself the search, Greg. We walked up (a short line) and bought 3 tickets at the door. It was our eldest daughter's first game and she was 4 yrs. old at the time (she's married and will be 27 next month :eek: ). Decent crowd but not a sellout (at least I'd be shocked to find out otherwise). Probably the typical "Spring break" opening weekend of the HE playoffs thing we've seen so often. But raucous it was. UNH was behind for most of the game, eventually came back to take the lead, and I'm pretty sure BC scored fairly late to force it into OT.

In retrospect ... not only was it the last game at Snively ... it was also Steve "Count" Cedorchuk's last game behind the BC bench. Too bad he couldn't have stuck around the BC program for a few more seasons. Good times ... :)
 
Save yourself the search, Greg. We walked up (a short line) and bought 3 tickets at the door. It was our eldest daughter's first game and she was 4 yrs. old at the time (she's married and will be 27 next month :eek: ). Decent crowd but not a sellout (at least I'd be shocked to find out otherwise). Probably the typical "Spring break" opening weekend of the HE playoffs thing we've seen so often. But raucous it was. UNH was behind for most of the game, eventually came back to take the lead, and I'm pretty sure BC scored fairly late to force it into OT.

In retrospect ... not only was it the last game at Snively ... it was also Steve "Count" Cedorchuk's last game behind the BC bench. Too bad he couldn't have stuck around the BC program for a few more seasons. Good times ... :)

Great story, Chuck. But, awwww,....., Greg is always looking for a reason to view that DVD again. I know that I would be. :-) I drove down from Orono for that game.
 
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Great story, Chuck. But, awwww,....., Greg is always looking for a reason to view that DVD again. I know that I would be. :-) I drove down from Orono for that game.

Watched the goal. Just as I remembered. Great outlet pass from Tim Murray, Bogey comes down the left wing, cuts to the middle and scores. One fan, behind the net jumping up and down, a fan who I found out later was Mr. Boguniecki, the father. The arena, which on TV (or maybe it was the DVD) was pretty dark but it looked about half full. So I whipped out my 1994-1995 Media Guide which had the game wrap ups from the year before and, lo and behold, the attendance was 2,795. So Chuck, you and I were right. The game was on March 12, a Sunday I think, probably during spring break.

Btw, and no surprise, Eric Boguniecki was one of the more dynamic players UNH has ever had, on and off the ice. Always remember the Hockey Banquet at the end of his senior year in 1997. After the festivities were over, he walks out of the New England Center with his parents, with a whole bunch of kids trailing behind shouting his name. He turned around, gave them all a small pep talk, got into the car, rolled down the window and waved to his adoring masses as he drove out of Durham for the last time. Actually, he still was in Durham getting ready for graduation, but I couldn't resist a bit of hyperbole.
 
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Bogey was the greatest. No slight on Coach Souza, but I'd love to have seen a dynamic personality like Bogey re-energizing the UNH program. Might still happen, as I believe Bogey's an assistant coach in Bridgeport these days.
 
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Watched the goal. Just as I remembered. Great outlet pass from Tim Murray, Bogey comes down the left wing, cuts to the middle and scores. One fan, behind the net jumping up and down, a fan who I found out later was Mr. Boguniecki, the father. The arena, which on TV (or maybe it was the DVD) was pretty dark but it looked about half full. So I whipped out my 1994-1995 Media Guide which had the game wrap ups from the year before and, lo and behold, the attendance was 2,795. So Chuck, you and I were right. The game was on March 12, a Sunday I think, probably during spring break.

Btw, and no surprise, Eric Boguniecki was one of the more dynamic players UNH has ever had, on and off the ice. Always remember the Hockey Banquet at the end of his senior year in 1997. After the festivities were over, he walks out of the New England Center with his parents, with a whole bunch of kids trailing behind shouting his name. He turned around, gave them all a small pep talk, got into the car, rolled down the window and waved to his adoring masses as he drove out of Durham for the last time. Actually, he still was in Durham getting ready for graduation, but I couldn't resist a bit of hyperbole.

Sounds more like 80%, rather half full, to me, but I recall that most of those fans stayed right to the end, despite the OTs. Not bad for spring break, but then again, we knew that the game would be our farewell to Lively Snively. I recall that most of us were standing up almost the entire OTs. Great story about Bogey's old man, and Bogey's departure from campus later that spring. He really set the stage for the next six years of UNH prominence in the post-season.

Absolutely correct Chuck, about Bogey being just down the road as an assistant coach for the AHL Bridgeport Sound Tigers, where he has begun his sixth season. But, more important for his coaching career, I think, is that he has played at all levels, including a fine 2002-2003 season for the St. Louis Blues in which he was in 80 games, scored 22 goals and 27 assists, was a +22 on the season, and took 84 penalty minutes. The guy played much larger than his 5'8'' height.
 
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1 - Red
Close Behind - Bob Daniels

Yes on Red Berenson, but no mention of Bob Daniels in article, rather our own DU in third behind Rick Gotkin.

Sadly, I cannot make either of the "cupcake" games this weekend, but will be at Conte on Tuesday and back at the Whitt for AZ.
 
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Save yourself the search, Greg. We walked up (a short line) and bought 3 tickets at the door. It was our eldest daughter's first game and she was 4 yrs. old at the time (she's married and will be 27 next month :eek: ). Decent crowd but not a sellout (at least I'd be shocked to find out otherwise). Probably the typical "Spring break" opening weekend of the HE playoffs thing we've seen so often. But raucous it was. UNH was behind for most of the game, eventually came back to take the lead, and I'm pretty sure BC scored fairly late to force it into OT.

In retrospect ... not only was it the last game at Snively ... it was also Steve "Count" Cedorchuk's last game behind the BC bench. Too bad he couldn't have stuck around the BC program for a few more seasons. Good times ... :)

I was at this game .... why I was standing behind the fencing at the "restroom" end of the arena I don't remember. Hope John Conroy was able to hitch a ride back to Newmarket after his organ gig. Who was he .... they ask?
 
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