UNH Wildcats 2015-2016 (Part One) - Return of the "Champions of December"??

[e.cat]

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Not to get too far afield here ... but modern-day football (the North American version) just bores me to tears these days. Honestly, it's just an endless series of 5 yard passes, penalty flags galore if the hit is even marginally off-target or off-time, and endless replays and reviews. You would think the teams are playing to determine the status of the free world, ferchrissakes. It's a freaking game, I can live with a few minor officiating errors, the game was OK without the serial stoppages for decades before it became so GD important to sweat over where the ball is marked, was this possession or not, did we miss a few seconds, etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum. Throw in the endless commercials breaking up the pace of the game, rules being changed each and every season - and sometimes in midseason - to try to help the offense (when was the last time the NFL changed a rule in favor of defense - is setting receiver "picks" fair?), and now the omnipresent idiocy of fantasy football crapola, which (not coincidentally) has gone hand-in-hand with the emphasis on offense/scoring.

I played (and used to love) football, but the game they're playing nowadays bears no resemblance to the football I played and loved. So I've moved on. Soccer is not without its own issues (it's probably a close 3rd in concussion issues behind football and rugby, and diving and FIFA corruption do not help things either) but at least I know I'm going to be watching a game that flows, is not over-scripted and/or overregulated, and I won't be subjected to inane advanced analytics/fantasy *discussions* in the pre-game intros.

Bringing this back to hockey for a bit ... I saw an NHL game this weekend on TV where a goal was "challenged" by the opposition for an allegedly missed offsides call. They ran the replay at least a half-dozen times (it was THAT close), and the game stopped for about 5 minutes. The goal stood ... but if this is the direction hockey is going to be taking in the future, I hope they decide against it, really I do.

Offsides - in both hockey and soccer - at its roots is an anti-goal-hanging rule, although it is different in both sports. I think your games are 100% fine f you can trust your officials to get the obvious calls right, and live with a few minor (razor thin) misses, since the close calls are usually so close, they don't violate the spirit of the game.

And as a final Monday morning ****** point ... the fact that what Tom Brady's father thinks about the Colts has been a media issue this past week tells you all you need to know about what is wrong with social media's incursion into the sports world. Can't TB12 have a word with his dad (like he presumably did with the since-blessedly-silent Gisele a few years ago) and ask him to keep his thoughts to himself? Is Dad pimping for an appearance on the Kardashians, or whatever???

Check this sweet goal out!

Check out @UNHMSoccer's Tweet: https://twitter.com/UNHMSoccer/status/656126813568172032?s=09

 

[Chuck Murray]

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Young promising Redsox pitcher. Someone to watch and look forward to next year as the Redsox finished the season playing well after being virtually out of post season contention at the season's mid point.

Confession here ... I've been away from baseball for the better part of the decade (for newbies, see self-explanatory signature below), but I've probably watched more baseball in recent months than football. It's nice to see the small market teams and/or different teams in the mix regularly again in recent seasons, and speeding up the game a little too has helped. Pitchers have caught onto the teams that want to milk pitch counts as a matter of policy (that's your Sox right there, until recently) and started getting ahead of counts, and have flipped that game-within-a-game on its head - which is nice to see. I enjoyed watching the Sox prospects in their admittedly meaningless games. And frankly, baseball has done a much better job of managing their replays too. I was pessimistic about that latter issue, but surprisingly they've done way better than I'd expected.

There is still a little too much silliness about the *science* of the pitch count (see Matt Harvey this year, or the Strasburg kid a couple of years ago), and I still wretch at the lingo of a "walk-off" anything - I think an ESPN baseball nerd was breathlessly talking about a "walk off balk" at some point in the summer - but it seems to be moving towards a better place. Whether it's soon enough to win back a lost generation of fans from the current 20-somethings and 30-somethings remains to be seen.

guess I just wanted to say something semi-positive after all this "git off ma lawn" stuff of recent days/months/years

 

[e.cat]

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I think he's being realistic; there IS no need to panic...and it IS early in the season. The kid has scored a couple of early season goals and I don't think anyone expected that from him being a 3rd/4th line D coming in adjusting to NCAA. Kudos!!

Anyhoo... The 'Cats want/need to play with a sense of urgency for the full 60 minutes. Is this 'perfect world' in hockey?That's how SLU and Clarkson (my view) did esp SLU Friday night. Shoot, I had missed the HE guys predictions; looked today and they had us winning (and sizable too) both nights AND yep I know they can be wrong.

I don't know what I expected; I knew SLU would be tough and had so so feelings about Clarkson (esp after seeing the Merrimack score). Missed the 1st period Friday but when I got there at the start of the 2nd, the 'Whitt was like a morgue. I found out why. Awesome we came back the way we did...that has to speak for something but not the "modus operandi" we want for the year. But I suppose when you come back and win...that's a different story.

Agree; doesn't need / shouldn't be wasted energy...I think that's their goal...get it going early, and sustain it. That...is a learned trait not sure it comes necessarily natural (terrible choice of words but you get it). Looking to see that this coming weekend.

No clue who Henry is...will look him up Enough of my Monday morning qtr. backing. So much for a Pats blow out e.cat haha

The Colts must have cheated!

 

[HockeyRef]

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The Colts must have cheated!

haha most definitely. Somebody write a report, stat.

 

[Greg A]

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Chuck, nice to have some baseball talk. Like you, I am a diehard baseball fan. In fact, I rank my likes as pro baseball first, college hockey second, pro hockey third, football fourth, then college hoops fifth, then the NBA. I had Celtics season tickets for years but now find the pro game pretty much unwatchable. But i digress. Regarding pitch counts I think I am safe in saying that they are going to be around forever. I have read, and so have you, all these accounts as to how clubs have invested so much in their pitchers' arms that they somehow have to protect them. The Sox shut down Eduardo Rodriguez after his innings reached 160, and this is a 23 year old kid who could probably throw 250 innings. My take on all this is that kids have arm problems because they pitch way too much before they even become pros. Although it doesn't happen around here, you take kids playing down south or out west where the season begins in February and ends in June, and before that season even starts, they have been pitching in fall leagues and showcase tournaments. No wonder so many of them have to have Tommy John surgery. I think back to the good old days, like in the 80's, when pitchers routinely pitched 250-300 innings, had 250 strike outs, and 15-20 complete games. You'll never see this again because of the ludicrous "investment" mentality.

Obligatory college hockey reference. Like baseball, I think there is too much early specialization in hockey. I read an article about Jack Eichel awhile back which talked about his prowess as a baseball player, but he gave it up at 13 (that's right, in 7th grade) because he wanted to concentrate on hockey. You read and hear stories like that all the time. Personally I hate specialization for two reasons. First, not every kid is going to be like Eicehl. He's going to get burned out and leave the sport, or he will level off and not be a suitable candidate at any college level. Secondly, specialization leads to repetitive motion injuries (throwing arms, acl's, etc.). While we hear of the successful cases of surgery, you never hear about the ones that didn't go right and the kid's career is over by the age of 16. I can think of a couple of UNH Wildcats who not only didn't specialize in high school, they didn't in college either. Rod Langway played football and Andy Brickley played baseball at UNH, with both going on to pretty fair NHL careers (Langway is in the HOF). That should be the lesson learned in my book.

 

[sonar]

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“I’m getting tired of that act,” Umile said.

This is a quote from a Foster's newspaper story. Among other complaints about the quality of play ......

He is getting tired .... think about how many "old time" UNH fans feel. Whatever happened to the old adage....."The buck stops here."

Let's continue onward via self-inflation and the magic # 600.

 

[Whalers]

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After watching the Clarkson game Saturday night, I think we need to get Foegele more opportunities. He is about the only player on UNH who has some speed AND creativity into the zone. For the last many years, we havent had anyone who I would describe as a get on the edge of your seat player, but I sat up a few times Saturday when he got the puck.

Having him with Nazarian's speed is a start, but they need a top end player like a Poturalski on the line. I think this would cause some issues for the opponent by creating some space and having the D looking over their shoulders. Unfortunately, we have devolved into a state of blandness, but lets try to keep some excitement on the ice.

I know, Krog, Bekar, Mowers and Haydar ain't walking thru the door any time soon, but we have to try something new.

 

[HockeyRef]

After watching the Clarkson game Saturday night, I think we need to get Foegele more opportunities. He is about the only player on UNH who has some speed AND creativity into the zone. For the last many years, we havent had anyone who I would describe as a get on the edge of your seat player, but I sat up a few times Saturday when he got the puck.

Having him with Nazarian's speed is a start, but they need a top end player like a Poturalski on the line. I think this would cause some issues for the opponent by creating some space and having the D looking over their shoulders. Unfortunately, we have devolved into a state of blandness, but lets try to keep some excitement on the ice.

I know, Krog, Bekar, Mowers and Haydar ain't walking thru the door any time soon, but we have to try something new.

Great post about a player whom I know we haven't even begun to see his full potential and while there's been flashes of brilliance with him I've wondered where the rest of it is on a more consistent basis. #3 is a hard worker who is a decent 2 way player. Could it be he just hasn't had the line mates in which you speak to bring this out? As my favorite Star Trek character Mr. Spock would say "fascinating". More please ....

 

[Aerman]

Great post about a player whom I know we haven't even begun to see his full potential and while there's been flashes of brilliance with him I've wondered where the rest of it is on a more consistent basis. #3 is a hard worker who is a decent 2 way player. Could it be he just hasn't had the line mates in which you speak to bring this out? As my favorite Star Trek character Mr. Spock would say "fascinating". More please ....

I've only caught two of the three games thus far, but was wondering late Saturday if I owe Jay Camper an apology. Sure, it's very early. Just thinking Foegele and Eiserman seemed more "purposeful" in their reckless abandon last year. Not a knock on Vela, just don't see a fit yet with his line mates. Also thinking Pots and TyKe looked softer on their skates than last year. Clarkson in particular had no trouble taking TK out of the game. And then there are the seniors ... Very early, but a lot of work to do.

 

[HockeyRef]

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I've only caught two of the three games thus far, but was wondering late Saturday if I owe Jay Camper an apology. Sure, it's very early. Just thinking Foegele and Eiserman seemed more "purposeful" in their reckless abandon last year. Not a knock on Vela, just don't see a fit yet with his line mates. Also thinking Pots and TyKe looked softer on their skates than last year. Clarkson in particular had no trouble taking TK out of the game. And then there are the seniors ... Very early, but a lot of work to do.

Regardless of what anyone thought of Jay's overall production what no one can deny is that he worked very, very hard EVERY shift he was out there...gave it 100%. Was rewarded more of course for that work his Senior year. Work ethic pays off. Just sayin'. And I'd like to add that I like McNick's hustle out there too...and hope he gets some ice time....

 

[Chuck Murray]

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Chuck, nice to have some baseball talk. Like you, I am a diehard baseball fan. In fact, I rank my likes as pro baseball first, college hockey second, pro hockey third, football fourth, then college hoops fifth, then the NBA. I had Celtics season tickets for years but now find the pro game pretty much unwatchable. But i digress. Regarding pitch counts I think I am safe in saying that they are going to be around forever. I have read, and so have you, all these accounts as to how clubs have invested so much in their pitchers' arms that they somehow have to protect them. The Sox shut down Eduardo Rodriguez after his innings reached 160, and this is a 23 year old kid who could probably throw 250 innings. My take on all this is that kids have arm problems because they pitch way too much before they even become pros. Although it doesn't happen around here, you take kids playing down south or out west where the season begins in February and ends in June, and before that season even starts, they have been pitching in fall leagues and showcase tournaments. No wonder so many of them have to have Tommy John surgery. I think back to the good old days, like in the 80's, when pitchers routinely pitched 250-300 innings, had 250 strike outs, and 15-20 complete games. You'll never see this again because of the ludicrous "investment" mentality.

The concept that a pitch count might have relevance, and is a tool to help protect a pitcher's arm from overuse is not lost on me, but the way things get implemented are more random and unscientific than those who promote them would ever admit. As late as the '70's, a lot of teams (even a majority?) were running out 4-man rotations, and weren't keeping formal pitch counts (and if they were, they certainly weren't using them to limit someone's pitches/innings). Average NL pitchers probably pitched less innings than their AL counterparts, due to the reliance on late innings pinch hitters in the NL if your team was down a run or two in a close game. But the stud starting pitchers were going out every fourth day in both leagues, and pitching for as long as they were effective. In the early '70's, all four (4) Orioles' starting pitchers won 20 games in the same season - Jim Palmer, Dave McNally (future Expo), Mike Cuellar and Pat Dobson. Think about that. I'm not sure the last time there were four (4) 20 game winners in a single season across the entirety of MLB.

To your point ... the advent of free agency in the late '70's begat the concept of "investments", and gradually the concession to using 5 man starting staffs became the norm. But as you point out, that didn't stop the starters from piling up big innings and/or pitch counts for another decade or so. And as the salaries grew, so did the caution - as did the specialization - and the concept of "rest". Now, when you see a relief pitcher going more than an inning, the announcers make it sound like the guy should be awarded a Purple Heart ... while the alarm in their voices when a starter's pitch count gets over 100 is audible (and comical/annoying, at least to me). And season before last, I swear I heard folks discussing the "need" for DH David Ortiz to "rest" after an evening when he had gotten on base four (4) times, with a couple of those trips arising out of walks. I did some simple math, and figured Big Papi had covered pretty much the same amount of ground with his four times on base than the right fielder covered running (back and forth) out to his position in one (1) full inning. True.

The folks who gasp at 100 pitches don't even consider things like (1) the mix of pitches, considering that the mechanics of a breaking pitch are more stressful than others; (2) how many pitches are expended in the pre-game and pre-inning warm-ups - which probably come close to doubling the total count; (3) do we count pickoff throws to first base, or other throws from fielding plays, and other stuff. Former Expos and Dodgers '70's relief ace Mike Marshall has a lot of theories which challenge the current status quo, and it comes from his background in kinesiology (sp?) which I've always found interesting. But the AA crowd goes into spasms when his name comes up, and the owners and player agents - both happy to protect their "investments" - are content to just go with the flow.

So what is in place now has little to do with any real medical science, and rather is just a historical reliance upon some randomly evolving mileposts that seem to make sense. Ironically, that comes across (at least to me) kind of like the "over-reliance on gut feelings" criticism the AA "new school" regularly levels at the old guard mentalities in the game.

Obligatory college hockey reference. Like baseball, I think there is too much early specialization in hockey. I read an article about Jack Eichel awhile back which talked about his prowess as a baseball player, but he gave it up at 13 (that's right, in 7th grade) because he wanted to concentrate on hockey. You read and hear stories like that all the time. Personally I hate specialization for two reasons. First, not every kid is going to be like Eicehl. He's going to get burned out and leave the sport, or he will level off and not be a suitable candidate at any college level. Secondly, specialization leads to repetitive motion injuries (throwing arms, acl's, etc.). While we hear of the successful cases of surgery, you never hear about the ones that didn't go right and the kid's career is over by the age of 16. I can think of a couple of UNH Wildcats who not only didn't specialize in high school, they didn't in college either. Rod Langway played football and Andy Brickley played baseball at UNH, with both going on to pretty fair NHL careers (Langway is in the HOF). That should be the lesson learned in my book.

Thanks for drawing me back to on topic stuff. And yeah, the pressure on kids to specialize has indeed grown (in all sports, sadly) in proportion to the growing economic lure of the games they hope to play professionally when they mature. Plus, there are lots of folks who happily enable the "dreamers" to chase unattainable financial goals/targets, because in the process, the enablers can line their own pockets. When the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow wasn't so big a few decades ago - and I'm pretty sure neither Brickley nor even the Norris Trophy/Stanley Cup winning HOF'er Langway ever made $1MM per season - those folks were few and far between.

Coincidence? I think not. Reversible? I doubt it. Not in my lifetime, anyway.

 

[Snively65]

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The concept that a pitch count might have relevance, and is a tool to help protect a pitcher's arm from overuse is not lost on me, but the way things get implemented are more random and unscientific than those who promote them would ever admit. As late as the '70's, a lot of teams (even a majority?) were running out 4-man rotations, and weren't keeping formal pitch counts (and if they were, they certainly weren't using them to limit someone's pitches/innings). Average NL pitchers probably pitched less innings than their AL counterparts, due to the reliance on late innings pinch hitters in the NL if your team was down a run or two in a close game. But the stud starting pitchers were going out every fourth day in both leagues, and pitching for as long as they were effective. In the early '70's, all four (4) Orioles' starting pitchers won 20 games in the same season - Jim Palmer, Dave McNally (future Expo), Mike Cuellar and Pat Dobson. Think about that. I'm not sure the last time there were four (4) 20 game winners in a single season across the entirety of MLB.

To your point ... the advent of free agency in the late '70's begat the concept of "investments", and gradually the concession to using 5 man starting staffs became the norm. But as you point out, that didn't stop the starters from piling up big innings and/or pitch counts for another decade or so. And as the salaries grew, so did the caution - as did the specialization - and the concept of "rest". Now, when you see a relief pitcher going more than an inning, the announcers make it sound like the guy should be awarded a Purple Heart ... while the alarm in their voices when a starter's pitch count gets over 100 is audible (and comical/annoying, at least to me). And season before last, I swear I heard folks discussing the "need" for DH David Ortiz to "rest" after an evening when he had gotten on base four (4) times, with a couple of those trips arising out of walks. I did some simple math, and figured Big Papi had covered pretty much the same amount of ground with his four times on base than the right fielder covered running (back and forth) out to his position in one (1) full inning. True.

The folks who gasp at 100 pitches don't even consider things like (1) the mix of pitches, considering that the mechanics of a breaking pitch are more stressful than others; (2) how many pitches are expended in the pre-game and pre-inning warm-ups - which probably come close to doubling the total count; (3) do we count pickoff throws to first base, or other throws from fielding plays, and other stuff. Former Expos and Dodgers '70's relief ace Mike Marshall has a lot of theories which challenge the current status quo, and it comes from his background in kinesiology (sp?) which I've always found interesting. But the AA crowd goes into spasms when his name comes up, and the owners and player agents - both happy to protect their "investments" - are content to just go with the flow.

So what is in place now has little to do with any real medical science, and rather is just a historical reliance upon some randomly evolving mileposts that seem to make sense. Ironically, that comes across (at least to me) kind of like the "over-reliance on gut feelings" criticism the AA "new school" regularly levels at the old guard mentalities in the game.



Thanks for drawing me back to on topic stuff. And yeah, the pressure on kids to specialize has indeed grown (in all sports, sadly) in proportion to the growing economic lure of the games they hope to play professionally when they mature. Plus, there are lots of folks who happily enable the "dreamers" to chase unattainable financial goals/targets, because in the process, the enablers can line their own pockets. When the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow wasn't so big a few decades ago - and I'm pretty sure neither Brickley nor even the Norris Trophy/Stanley Cup winning HOF'er Langway ever made $1MM per season - those folks were few and far between.

Coincidence? I think not. Reversible? I doubt it. Not in my lifetime, anyway.

Speaking of "Montreal Expos Forever....", my favorite Sox pitcher in the early 60s was #17, who commonly pitched multiple innings as a "fireman," early terminology for "closer." He won "Fireman of the Year" in 1962 and 1964, and led MBL with 181 K/s in 1964, which has never been matched by a reliever. Of course, the Sox starters were mostly horrendous in the early 1960s, so this fireman got a lot of opportunities to pitch. His top salary for the Sox was $41k in 1965.

So, here is a question in a drift back to hockey; what NHL'ers have played a second professional sport? Lots of baseball/basketball pros, even if short-lived, such as Danny Ainge, and the Rifleman Chuck Connors.

 

[e.cat]

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Speaking of "Montreal Expos Forever....", my favorite Sox pitcher in the early 60s was #17, who commonly pitched multiple innings as a "fireman," early terminology for "closer." He won "Fireman of the Year" in 1962 and 1964, and led MBL with 181 K/s in 1964, which has never been matched by a reliever. Of course, the Sox starters were mostly horrendous in the early 1960s, so this fireman got a lot of opportunities to pitch. His top salary for the Sox was $41k in 1965.

So, here is a question in a drift back to hockey; what NHL'ers have played a second professional sport? Lots of baseball/basketball pros, even if short-lived, such as Danny Ainge, and the Rifleman Chuck Connors.

Dick Radatz

Lionel Conacher
Dan Quinn

 

[Snively65]

Dick Radatz

Lionel Conacher
Dan Quinn

Cool, e.cat. Details on Conacher and Quinn?

Who gave #17 his knickname "the Monster"?

 

[e.cat]

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Cool, e.cat. Details on Conacher and Quinn?

Who gave #17 his knickname "the Monster"?

Conacher won a Stanley Cup with the Blackhawks in 1934 and the Montreal Maroons in 1935. He also won a Grey Cup with the Toronto Argonauts in 1921.

Quinn played in the NHL from 1983 to 1996 with variuos teams. Turned golf pro and played on the Celebrity Tour with 18 top ten finishes. He won the American Century Celebrity Golf Classic five times!

Mickey Mantle named Radatz the "Monster".

 

[Chuck Murray]

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Who gave #17 his knickname "the Monster"?

Mickey Mantle oops e.cat beat me to it

Putting aside the Sox trivia (and I'll take the blame for the baseball detour) and the "battle of the bands" stuff for a moment, I'm sure many of you probably read the Travis Roy piece on the USCHO home page. Hard to believe it's been 20 years since that all happened ...

http://www.uscho.com/2015/10/20/tra...battles-frustrations-but-holds-onto-optimism/

Very frank, sober and revealing insights into his day-to-day routine, hopes and disappointments along the way. Must read stuff ...

 

[Aerman]

Regardless of what anyone thought of Jay's overall production what no one can deny is that he worked very, very hard EVERY shift he was out there...gave it 100%. Was rewarded more of course for that work his Senior year. Work ethic pays off. Just sayin'. And I'd like to add that I like McNick's hustle out there too...and hope he gets some ice time....

Just so we're clear, I'm not questioning anyone's effort (and you did not say I was ), least of all the seniors.

Carry on.

 

[Greg A]

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Just so we're clear, I'm not questioning anyone's effort (and you did not say I was ), least of all the seniors.

Carry on.

Effort shouldn't be the question, ability is. And that is never a knock on the player who is, after all, what he is. The knock is on the coaching staff. It's why I hate renewable scholarships. If a player does not pan out the way the coaching staff projected, the onus should be on the coach who recruited him, not the player who is giving his all. Unfortunately one year, renewable scholarships have been the norm at big time football and basketball schools for decades. I believe the NCAA is finally moving away from this onerous practice, thankfully.

 

[Greg A]

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Conacher won a Stanley Cup with the Blackhawks in 1934 and the Montreal Maroons in 1935. He also won a Grey Cup with the Toronto Argonauts in 1921.

Quinn played in the NHL from 1983 to 1996 with variuos teams. Turned golf pro and played on the Celebrity Tour with 18 top ten finishes. He won the American Century Celebrity Golf Classic five times!

Mickey Mantle named Radatz the "Monster".

I'll add Kirk McCaskill, who starred at Vermont in the early 80's. Hockey db says he was drafted by the Winnipeg Jets, played one year at Sherbrooke, their AHL franchise at the time. McCaskill went on to have a pretty fair career as a major league pitcher, mostly for the Angels.

 

[e.cat]

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I'll add Kirk McCaskill, who starred at Vermont in the early 80's. Hockey db says he was drafted by the Winnipeg Jets, played one year at Sherbrooke, their AHL franchise at the time. McCaskill went on to have a pretty fair career as a major league pitcher, mostly for the Angels.

Absolutely. He was a great athlete! He was an All American at UVM and a Hobey runner-up in 1981-1982. Also holds the best career batting average at UVM with a (.356) and slugging (.561). Amazing!