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UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
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You guys have obviously been following this team a lot longer than I have; has the UNH "style" stayed the same throughout the years, and, if so, how do you account for the mega success of the Regionals, making it to the FF...? The game has to have changed as well and the parity in the sport has to have something to do with it...among other things! We know the coach is a constant. I will not go there; not my thing. I'm more interested in understanding the teams we have as opposed to lamenting about what we don't but that is just me... I don't think I would consider UNH a crash and bang kind of team; although I do like the Willows hustle and would love to see more of that...next season. Can't win those big games without it, at least, from what I watched over the weekend...And you can't score a lot of goals by throwing pucks to the net without someone there. Watching Union take apart Minny at the crease was just unreal...I'm sure Wilcox (minny goalie) felt the same..We scored some awesome goals this year; thinking of the ND game in particular.
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
You guys have obviously been following this team a lot longer than I have; has the UNH "style" stayed the same throughout the years, and, if so, how do you account for the mega success of the Regionals, making it to the FF...? The game has to have changed as well and the parity in the sport has to have something to do with it...among other things! We know the coach is a constant. I will not go there; not my thing. I'm more interested in understanding the teams we have as opposed to lamenting about what we don't but that is just me... I don't think I would consider UNH a crash and bang kind of team; although I do like the Willows hustle and would love to see more of that...next season. Can't win those big games without it, at least, from what I watched over the weekend...And you can't score a lot of goals by throwing pucks to the net without someone there. Watching Union take apart Minny at the crease was just unreal...I'm sure Wilcox (minny goalie) felt the same..We scored some awesome goals this year; thinking of the ND game in particular.
Good for Peter; glad that his four years of toil in the AHL has paid off.
Mike Sislo is 0-0-0 and -1 in 14 games in the NHL this season.
Phil DeSimone playing in Sweden now, Stevie Moses in Finland, Paul Thompson in Springfield after three years with WB/Scranton, and Bobby Butler now playing in San Antonio.
The style is Umile's and has not really changed much over the past 2+ decades. Talent level has dropped way off since 2003. Say what you want, but the players we have had at UNH the past decade would not have been good at crashing the net, although sometimes Paul Thompson was able to use his size to post up next to the crease and pick up a few dirty goals. But, I agree, there is no excuse for dinking around with the puck and not getting a single shot on net during a power play. Simply frustrating.
HockeyRef
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Watched Sislo yesterday v the Bruins! Also John Henrion and Austin Block played for teams in Finland this year (like Moses).. It's awesome to follow their pro careers!
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Watched Sislo yesterday v the Bruins! Also John Henrion and Austin Block played for teams in Finland this year (like Moses).. It's awesome to follow their pro careers!
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They haven't moved on from a regional to the Frozen Four in 11 years. Would not call that mega success on any level. I'm not knowledgable when it comes to coaching but it seems like a new generation of younger guys have taken over. Like every other sport the game of hockey evolves over time.
HockeyRef
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
I guess what I meant by 'mega success' is the fact that UNH has been a NCAA contender consistently throughout the years. Many teams cannot say that. I am aware that we have missed the NCAA's twice in the last 3 years. That being said, getting to..and winning a National Championship would be nice~
Can't imagine anyone on this board feels any different! I do appreciate the insights.
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
I guess what I meant by 'mega success' is the fact that UNH has been a NCAA contender consistently throughout the years. Many teams cannot say that. I am aware that we have missed the NCAA's twice in the last 3 years. That being said, getting to..and winning a National Championship would be nice~
Can't imagine anyone on this board feels any different! I do appreciate the insights.unh_hockey
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
A different trend in past years when compared to 10 years ago has been that UNH has not quite as underperformed in playoffs ( when they make it in). This year, they lost to Lowell in a HE title game they had no business being in. They smacked Denver around last year in the playoffs, and also beat some good teams in the playoffs a few years back including a #1 seed North Dakota. 10 years ago, this team had a habit of folding like a tent and getting a touchdown scored on them, but now it seems they lose by a couple of goals and put up a respectable game.
But it seems like they are stagnant. the recruits, style, and success have settled out at an above average performance. While the games are enjoyable to watch at times, I don't really expect much in the ways of making it far into the playoffs at this point. Who knows...maybe in another 10 years? haha
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
I guess what I meant by 'mega success' is the fact that UNH has been a NCAA contender consistently throughout the years. Many teams cannot say that. I am aware that we have missed the NCAA's twice in the last 3 years. That being said, getting to..and winning a National Championship would be nice~
A different trend in past years when compared to 10 years ago has been that UNH has not quite as underperformed in playoffs ( when they make it in). This year, they lost to Lowell in a HE title game they had no business being in. They smacked Denver around last year in the playoffs, and also beat some good teams in the playoffs a few years back including a #1 seed North Dakota. 10 years ago, this team had a habit of folding like a tent and getting a touchdown scored on them, but now it seems they lose by a couple of goals and put up a respectable game.
But it seems like they are stagnant. the recruits, style, and success have settled out at an above average performance. While the games are enjoyable to watch at times, I don't really expect much in the ways of making it far into the playoffs at this point. Who knows...maybe in another 10 years? haha
JB
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Style wise UNH has not changed much since 1998-99.
Pre 98-99 they were a run and gun team, a blast to watch and got repeatedly killed in the NCAAs. The 97-98 team had two 60+ point Jr. forwards (66&60) and two 50+ point Sr. forwards (59&56) on the same team add in a So. D-man with 31 points and that team scored. They faltered badly down the stretch against trapping clubs where the couldn't run and gun, bounced in the1st round in the Hockey East Playoffs but just made the then 12 team NCAAs. Won 2 games in Albany and were pounded in the first trip to the Frozen Four (in Boston) since 1982, 4-0 by a Michigan club that could play D and score.
The next year 98-99 only one of those forwards returned (Krog) and there was a significant style switch to a defensive oriented team. That switch provided consistency that had been missing. We have not experience the ups and downs of the highly offensive pre 98-99 teams since. The gross numbers don't show it but we don't see many 9-1 or 10-1 games any more. Some of that is the competition getting better some is style some is less talent in Durham. Some of these more defensive UNH teams have been more physical than others.
However in general the style hasn't changed since 98-99. The pure goal scoring talent coming in is another question. UNH's offense relies on the individual talent and creativity of the players on the ice. UNH is known to be not physical, not to win face-offs, not to grind out goals, not to be situationally smart and have become very predictable.
Examples:
- No plays like that Union tip goal on a set play of a 3 on 2 break
- Generally on a 3 on 2 nobody goes to the net - instead more of an umbrella
- D-men either hit the guy in front of them or pass to the other point when there is a screen in front of them.
- 3 guys cycling down low so nobody out front for a pass
- etc.
All these little things win tough playoff games. I am very happy that the tournament performances have become better. UNH rarely was a scary out, last few times in they have been a much tougher team. Less prone to nervous mental errors. The last piece of the puzzle is learning to manufacture goals, means physical play and going to the "hard" areas on the ice.
Then add some talent again and there is a chance.
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Style wise UNH has not changed much since 1998-99.
Pre 98-99 they were a run and gun team, a blast to watch and got repeatedly killed in the NCAAs. The 97-98 team had two 60+ point Jr. forwards (66&60) and two 50+ point Sr. forwards (59&56) on the same team add in a So. D-man with 31 points and that team scored. They faltered badly down the stretch against trapping clubs where the couldn't run and gun, bounced in the1st round in the Hockey East Playoffs but just made the then 12 team NCAAs. Won 2 games in Albany and were pounded in the first trip to the Frozen Four (in Boston) since 1982, 4-0 by a Michigan club that could play D and score.
The next year 98-99 only one of those forwards returned (Krog) and there was a significant style switch to a defensive oriented team. That switch provided consistency that had been missing. We have not experience the ups and downs of the highly offensive pre 98-99 teams since. The gross numbers don't show it but we don't see many 9-1 or 10-1 games any more. Some of that is the competition getting better some is style some is less talent in Durham. Some of these more defensive UNH teams have been more physical than others.
However in general the style hasn't changed since 98-99. The pure goal scoring talent coming in is another question. UNH's offense relies on the individual talent and creativity of the players on the ice. UNH is known to be not physical, not to win face-offs, not to grind out goals, not to be situationally smart and have become very predictable.
Examples:
- No plays like that Union tip goal on a set play of a 3 on 2 break
- Generally on a 3 on 2 nobody goes to the net - instead more of an umbrella
- D-men either hit the guy in front of them or pass to the other point when there is a screen in front of them.
- 3 guys cycling down low so nobody out front for a pass
- etc.
All these little things win tough playoff games. I am very happy that the tournament performances have become better. UNH rarely was a scary out, last few times in they have been a much tougher team. Less prone to nervous mental errors. The last piece of the puzzle is learning to manufacture goals, means physical play and going to the "hard" areas on the ice.
Then add some talent again and there is a chance.
I think that our alums are better suited for Euro pro hockey than the NHL.
JB
Desk Chair Coach
Toughness anyone? Euro pro is not as physical...
The Zlax45
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Just my thoughts, it used to be stunning for unh to be knocked out of the ncaa tourney back in the early 2000's now they lose to better teams...talent has dropped off a ton and the coaches around 40 have taken over...Bennett, Bazin, Leaman, yale's coach, pecknold, etc
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Just my thoughts, it used to be stunning for unh to be knocked out of the ncaa tourney back in the early 2000's now they lose to better teams...talent has dropped off a ton and the coaches around 40 have taken over...Bennett, Bazin, Leaman, yale's coach, pecknold, etc
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
at one point in the last decade, UNH had a dozen players on the roster who were drafted by NHL teams. That # has steadily declined to the current # of 2.
NHL guys are not the be all end all of college success (see Union this year), but it's a good place to start. The best teams UNH has had meshed some of that NHL potential (even if it was rarely realized at the NHL level) with a couple older undrafted guys who were great college players and scorers.
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
at one point in the last decade, UNH had a dozen players on the roster who were drafted by NHL teams. That # has steadily declined to the current # of 2.
NHL guys are not the be all end all of college success (see Union this year), but it's a good place to start. The best teams UNH has had meshed some of that NHL potential (even if it was rarely realized at the NHL level) with a couple older undrafted guys who were great college players and scorers.
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Up until 2004, the NHL Draft included 9 rounds. Since 2005, there have been 7 rounds. Players drafted in either Round 8 or 9 (*) probably would not have been drafted by an NHL team if there had been only 7 rounds.
Here’s a table showing which UNH players were drafted by an NHL team, the round they were drafted in, and how many NHL games they played in. I’ve looked at the teams from the 1997-98 team (the first UNH team to make the Frozen Four in the Whittemore Center Era) up until the present:
1997-98 – Frozen Four
Mike Souza - 3rd Round - 0 NHL games
Derek Bekar – 8th Round* – 11 NHL games
Eric Lind – 9th Round* – 0 NHL games
1998-99 – Frozen Four
Mike Souza - 3rd Round - 0 NHL games
Eric Lind – 9th Round* – 0 NHL games
Darren Haydar – 9th Round* – 23 NHL games
1999-00 - NCAA Tourney, Lost 1st Round
Mike Souza - 3rd Round - 0 NHL games
Patrick Foley – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Jim Abbott – 7th Round – 0 NHL games
Colin Hemingway – 8th Round* – 3 NHL games
Eric Lind – 9th Round* – 0 NHL games
Darren Haydar – 9th Round* – 23 NHL games
2000-01
Nathan Martz – 5th Round – 0 NHL games
Michael Ayers – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Jim Abbott – 7th Round – 0 NHL games
Colin Hemingway – 8th Round* – 3 NHL games
Eric Lind – 9th Round* – 0 NHL games
Darren Haydar – 9th Round* – 23 NHL games
2001-02 – Frozen Four
Ed Caron – 2nd Round – 0 NHL games
Nathan Martz – 5th Round – 0 NHL games
Justin Aikens – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Patrick Foley – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Michael Ayers – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Jim Abbott – 7th Round – 0 NHL games
Colin Hemingway – 8th Round* – 3 NHL games
Darren Haydar – 9th Round* – 23 NHL games
Tyler Scott – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Sean Collins - 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
2002-03 – Frozen Four
Nathan Martz – 5th Round – 0 NHL games
Justin Aikens – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Patrick Foley – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Michael Ayers – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Jeff Pietrasiak – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Jim Abbott – 7th Round – 0 NHL games
Colin Hemingway – 8th Round* – 3 NHL games
Tyler Scott – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Sean Collins - 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
2003-04 - NCAA Tourney, Lost 1st Round
Ed Caron – 2nd Round – 0 NHL games
John Doherty – 2nd Round – 0 NHL games
Nathan Martz – 5th Round – 0 NHL games
Dan Travis – 5th Round – 0 NHL games
Justin Aikens – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Patrick Foley – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Michael Ayers – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Jeff Pietrasiak – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Jim Abbott – 7th Round – 0 NHL games
Colin Hemingway – 8th Round* – 3 NHL games
Sean Collins – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Tyler Scott – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Daniel Winnik – 9th Round* - 490 games
Michael Hutchins – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
2004-05 - NCAA Tourney, Lost 2nd Round
John Doherty – 2nd Round – 0 NHL games
Dan Travis – 5th Round – 0 NHL games
Justin Aikens – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Jeff Pietrasiak – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Brett Hemingway – 7th Round – 0 NHL games
Sean Collins – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Daniel Winnik – 9th Round* - 490 games
Michael Hutchins – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Craig Switzer – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Kevin Regan – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
2005-06 - NCAA Tourney, Lost 1st Round
Joe Charlebois – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Jeff Pietrasiak – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Brett Hemingway – 7th Round – 0 NHL games
Daniel Winnik – 9th Round* - 490 games
Michael Hutchins – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Craig Switzer – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Kevin Regan – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
2006-07 - NCAA Tourney, Lost 1st Round
Brian Foster – 5th Round – 1 NHL game
Joe Charlebois – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Brett Hemingway – 7th Round – 0 NHL games
Peter LeBlanc – 7th Round – 1 NHL game
Craig Switzer – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Kevin Regan – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
2007-08 - NCAA Tourney, Lost 1st Round
James van Riemsdyk – 1st Round – 324 NHL games
Phil DeSimone – 3rd Round – 0 NHL games
Brian Foster – 5th Round – 1 NHL game
Joe Charlebois – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Peter LeBlanc – 7th Round – 1 NHL game
Craig Switzer – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Kevin Regan – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
2008-09 - NCAA Tourney, Lost 2nd Round
James van Riemsdyk – 1st Round – 324 NHL games
Phil DeSimone – 3rd Round – 0 NHL games
Brian Foster – 5th Round – 1 NHL game
Joe Charlebois – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Blake Kessel – 6th Round – 0 games
Peter LeBlanc – 7th Round – 1 NHL game
Craig Switzer – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Kevin Regan – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
2009-10 - NCAA Tourney, Lost 2nd Round
Phil DeSimone – 3rd Round – 0 NHL games
Brian Foster – 5th Round – 1 NHL game
Blake Kessel – 6th Round - 0 NHL games
Greg Burke – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Peter LeBlanc – 7th Round – 1 NHL game
2010-11 - NCAA Tourney, Lost 2nd Round
Phil DeSimone – 3rd Round – 0 NHL games
Eric Knodel – 5th Round – Freshman
Blake Kessel – 6th Round - 0 NHL games
Greg Burke – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
2011-12
Eric Knodel – 5th Round – Sophomore
Greg Burke – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
2012-13 - NCAA Tourney, Lost 2nd Round
Brett Pesce - 3rd Round - Freshman
Eric Knodel – 5th Round – Junior
Greg Burke – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
2013-14
Brett Pesce - 3rd Round - Sophomore
Eric Knodel – 5th Round – Senior
2014-15 Projected
Brett Pesce - 3rd Round - Junior
Shane Eiserman – NHL CSS Final Rank #45 Among North Americans
Warren Foegele - NHL CSS Final Rank #66 Among North Americans
Dylan Chanter - NHL CSS Final Rank #164 Among North Americans
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Up until 2004, the NHL Draft included 9 rounds. Since 2005, there have been 7 rounds. Players drafted in either Round 8 or 9 (*) probably would not have been drafted by an NHL team if there had been only 7 rounds.
Here’s a table showing which UNH players were drafted by an NHL team, the round they were drafted in, and how many NHL games they played in. I’ve looked at the teams from the 1997-98 team (the first UNH team to make the Frozen Four in the Whittemore Center Era) up until the present:
1997-98 – Frozen Four
Mike Souza - 3rd Round - 0 NHL games
Derek Bekar – 8th Round* – 11 NHL games
Eric Lind – 9th Round* – 0 NHL games
1998-99 – Frozen Four
Mike Souza - 3rd Round - 0 NHL games
Eric Lind – 9th Round* – 0 NHL games
Darren Haydar – 9th Round* – 23 NHL games
1999-00 - NCAA Tourney, Lost 1st Round
Mike Souza - 3rd Round - 0 NHL games
Patrick Foley – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Jim Abbott – 7th Round – 0 NHL games
Colin Hemingway – 8th Round* – 3 NHL games
Eric Lind – 9th Round* – 0 NHL games
Darren Haydar – 9th Round* – 23 NHL games
2000-01
Nathan Martz – 5th Round – 0 NHL games
Michael Ayers – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Jim Abbott – 7th Round – 0 NHL games
Colin Hemingway – 8th Round* – 3 NHL games
Eric Lind – 9th Round* – 0 NHL games
Darren Haydar – 9th Round* – 23 NHL games
2001-02 – Frozen Four
Ed Caron – 2nd Round – 0 NHL games
Nathan Martz – 5th Round – 0 NHL games
Justin Aikens – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Patrick Foley – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Michael Ayers – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Jim Abbott – 7th Round – 0 NHL games
Colin Hemingway – 8th Round* – 3 NHL games
Darren Haydar – 9th Round* – 23 NHL games
Tyler Scott – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Sean Collins - 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
2002-03 – Frozen Four
Nathan Martz – 5th Round – 0 NHL games
Justin Aikens – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Patrick Foley – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Michael Ayers – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Jeff Pietrasiak – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Jim Abbott – 7th Round – 0 NHL games
Colin Hemingway – 8th Round* – 3 NHL games
Tyler Scott – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Sean Collins - 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
2003-04 - NCAA Tourney, Lost 1st Round
Ed Caron – 2nd Round – 0 NHL games
John Doherty – 2nd Round – 0 NHL games
Nathan Martz – 5th Round – 0 NHL games
Dan Travis – 5th Round – 0 NHL games
Justin Aikens – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Patrick Foley – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Michael Ayers – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Jeff Pietrasiak – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Jim Abbott – 7th Round – 0 NHL games
Colin Hemingway – 8th Round* – 3 NHL games
Sean Collins – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Tyler Scott – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Daniel Winnik – 9th Round* - 490 games
Michael Hutchins – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
2004-05 - NCAA Tourney, Lost 2nd Round
John Doherty – 2nd Round – 0 NHL games
Dan Travis – 5th Round – 0 NHL games
Justin Aikens – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Jeff Pietrasiak – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Brett Hemingway – 7th Round – 0 NHL games
Sean Collins – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Daniel Winnik – 9th Round* - 490 games
Michael Hutchins – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Craig Switzer – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Kevin Regan – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
2005-06 - NCAA Tourney, Lost 1st Round
Joe Charlebois – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Jeff Pietrasiak – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Brett Hemingway – 7th Round – 0 NHL games
Daniel Winnik – 9th Round* - 490 games
Michael Hutchins – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Craig Switzer – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Kevin Regan – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
2006-07 - NCAA Tourney, Lost 1st Round
Brian Foster – 5th Round – 1 NHL game
Joe Charlebois – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Brett Hemingway – 7th Round – 0 NHL games
Peter LeBlanc – 7th Round – 1 NHL game
Craig Switzer – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Kevin Regan – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
2007-08 - NCAA Tourney, Lost 1st Round
James van Riemsdyk – 1st Round – 324 NHL games
Phil DeSimone – 3rd Round – 0 NHL games
Brian Foster – 5th Round – 1 NHL game
Joe Charlebois – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Peter LeBlanc – 7th Round – 1 NHL game
Craig Switzer – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Kevin Regan – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
2008-09 - NCAA Tourney, Lost 2nd Round
James van Riemsdyk – 1st Round – 324 NHL games
Phil DeSimone – 3rd Round – 0 NHL games
Brian Foster – 5th Round – 1 NHL game
Joe Charlebois – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Blake Kessel – 6th Round – 0 games
Peter LeBlanc – 7th Round – 1 NHL game
Craig Switzer – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
Kevin Regan – 9th Round* - 0 NHL games
2009-10 - NCAA Tourney, Lost 2nd Round
Phil DeSimone – 3rd Round – 0 NHL games
Brian Foster – 5th Round – 1 NHL game
Blake Kessel – 6th Round - 0 NHL games
Greg Burke – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
Peter LeBlanc – 7th Round – 1 NHL game
2010-11 - NCAA Tourney, Lost 2nd Round
Phil DeSimone – 3rd Round – 0 NHL games
Eric Knodel – 5th Round – Freshman
Blake Kessel – 6th Round - 0 NHL games
Greg Burke – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
2011-12
Eric Knodel – 5th Round – Sophomore
Greg Burke – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
2012-13 - NCAA Tourney, Lost 2nd Round
Brett Pesce - 3rd Round - Freshman
Eric Knodel – 5th Round – Junior
Greg Burke – 6th Round – 0 NHL games
2013-14
Brett Pesce - 3rd Round - Sophomore
Eric Knodel – 5th Round – Senior
2014-15 Projected
Brett Pesce - 3rd Round - Junior
Shane Eiserman – NHL CSS Final Rank #45 Among North Americans
Warren Foegele - NHL CSS Final Rank #66 Among North Americans
Dylan Chanter - NHL CSS Final Rank #164 Among North Americans
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Fair point about the draft rounds, but it's still a pretty substantial dropoff in terms of the type of players we are recruiting
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Fair point about the draft rounds, but it's still a pretty substantial dropoff in terms of the type of players we are recruiting
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
What really impresses me about C-H-C's summary is how well the Cats did in the NCAAs in 1997-1999 and 2001-2003, as we did not have that many top 6 or 7 NHL draft picks then either (only Souza in the earlier two-year run, although several in round 6-7 range for the second two-year run). Also, I always thought that Haydar deserved more than a cup of coffee in the NHL, as he had a great career just one level below, I think.
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
What really impresses me about C-H-C's summary is how well the Cats did in the NCAAs in 1997-1999 and 2001-2003, as we did not have that many top 6 or 7 NHL draft picks then either (only Souza in the earlier two-year run, although several in round 6-7 range for the second two-year run). Also, I always thought that Haydar deserved more than a cup of coffee in the NHL, as he had a great career just one level below, I think.
HockeyRef
Well-known member
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Interesting to see that Union's Shayne G (Ghost) has joined the Flyers affiliate Phantoms (Kevin G's team) today...as well as Minnie's Seratorre (sp). Funny; they just played against each other in the FF . Imagine this is common place just kind of fun to note. Wonder if our Brett P will be next (year)...
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Interesting to see that Union's Shayne G (Ghost) has joined the Flyers affiliate Phantoms (Kevin G's team) today...as well as Minnie's Seratorre (sp). Funny; they just played against each other in the FF . Imagine this is common place just kind of fun to note. Wonder if our Brett P will be next (year)...
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Interesting but for conversation sake say there were still 9 rounds, would there be any more draft picks on the last couple of UNH teams? That's a hard thing to predict but I would say no. Partly because some of those 8 or 9 round draft picks were still really, really good back ten or so years ago.
And even though the draft dropped from 9 rounds to 7 the number of current college players or recruits drafted has remain pretty consistent since 2000:
2000-2004 (9 rounds) 53,79,75,90
2005-2013 (7 rounds) 71,68,78,62,67,63,61,67,63
And you look at some of those other 'top programs' and they still continue to get a lot of draft picks and the number drafted college players has remained relatively high even though the NHL eliminated two rounds of the draft. Yet UNH is still lacking.
But as I and others have said, draft picks are not the be all, end all. You can be successful with few or none(Union w/1 but now none*) or unsuccessful with a lot (Harvard and others)
*Gostisbehere signed an entry level deal with the Flyers.
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Interesting but for conversation sake say there were still 9 rounds, would there be any more draft picks on the last couple of UNH teams? That's a hard thing to predict but I would say no. Partly because some of those 8 or 9 round draft picks were still really, really good back ten or so years ago.
And even though the draft dropped from 9 rounds to 7 the number of current college players or recruits drafted has remain pretty consistent since 2000:
2000-2004 (9 rounds) 53,79,75,90
2005-2013 (7 rounds) 71,68,78,62,67,63,61,67,63
And you look at some of those other 'top programs' and they still continue to get a lot of draft picks and the number drafted college players has remained relatively high even though the NHL eliminated two rounds of the draft. Yet UNH is still lacking.
But as I and others have said, draft picks are not the be all, end all. You can be successful with few or none(Union w/1 but now none*) or unsuccessful with a lot (Harvard and others)
*Gostisbehere signed an entry level deal with the Flyers.
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
And C-H-C caught a little mistake. You need to take Sean Collins out of the 2001-02 FF year and put him in the 2002-03 FF year.
And Haydar wasn't drafted until after the 1998-99 season. Not sure if that was done on purpose w/ players drafted in the future?
Otherwise nice work putting that all together
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
And C-H-C caught a little mistake. You need to take Sean Collins out of the 2001-02 FF year and put him in the 2002-03 FF year.
And Haydar wasn't drafted until after the 1998-99 season. Not sure if that was done on purpose w/ players drafted in the future?
Otherwise nice work putting that all together
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Thanks for catching that Ryan. I found three UNH players who were drafted in the summer between their freshman and sophomore years - Haydar, Collins and Pesce. I included each of them on the list for their freshman year. Are there others?
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale
Thanks for catching that Ryan. I found three UNH players who were drafted in the summer between their freshman and sophomore years - Haydar, Collins and Pesce. I included each of them on the list for their freshman year. Are there others?
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