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UNH Wildcats 2010 off-season thread

Re: UNH Wildcats 2010 off-season thread

BTW, one thing I've been meaning to say is: all of you older, non-student fans claiming that cheers should be led by students, and the older fans should step aside (and arguably not cheer), you obviously were not in Milwaukee in '06 when Wisconsin won. They do their "1-2, we want more!" cheer across the rink, and if the guy leading the cheer on our side of the ice was a student, he certainly wasn't "college-aged". And yet, he was just as enthused as anyone, and the crowd (including many college-aged fans around us), got just as into his cheering as anyone else's.

I guess my point is that this lack of atmosphere is not endemic to the student section, and though most cheering came from that end, it is ok, and necessary, for the rest of the arena to get off their hands once in a while. The arguments that "it's for students, not adults" is bunk, as is the argument that the STH's don't cheer because the students are "vulgar".
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2010 off-season thread

If you are not a student (or a recent alum), maybe you should step away from the front rows and let students take up the mantle on their own.
If they are currently GA season ticket holders they would have to pay more for a worse view, comparable seats on the opposite side are now "reserved bench".
 
Re: UNH Wildcats 2010 off-season thread

While I agree that the student section has been run well in the past, i do think it is time for a transition period to take place. I enjoyed my time in the student section the last 5 years, but my time as a student is done. The problem with the section now is the lack of respect towards the Hosers. They are incredibly diehard fans, but most students just view them as the odd late 20's to early 30's who get to games at rediculous times. With the exception of a few students (namely george and myself) feww students follow the team very closely. Over the last couple years, we have had a couple very vocal students. Paul led our section, and as he left I took over. The students are getting more and more vulgar as the new students come in every year.

I don't know if the band is the way to go however.

With that you are making a select group of students , leaving out the vast majority. George and I have had talks at length about this. You need to open it up to all students. A pep really/ midnight madness at the whitt when the team opens up the season could be great. You could make a freshman event where the students learn the way the the university wants to be portrayed on a national spotlight.

The other arguement is that the UNH hockey games are a college atmosphere. Vulgarity is to be expected, and to not think you will see it is just dilusional. I personally liked going to UVM and Northeastern this year and hearing the students go nuts.
 
Simple really ...

Simple really ...

So two questions:
What can we do to wake up the students
What can we do to wake up the STHs

Put a better quality on-ice product out there, and everything solves itself.

Let's give the students and STH's a little credit here ... gimmickry and high tech upgrades are only going to generate so much excitement, and most of that is going to be short-term stuff. And eventually, it still all reverts back to the quality of the product on the ice.

Look at it this way ... when they opened The Whitt back in '95, the building itself was the attraction for the first few years - everything was brand new, the teams were good but not great (including Umile's only losing season the year they opened the new facility), played wide-open offensive hockey, and it was a blast, and a different experience from Snively. After that it was the on-ice quality of the UNH program, which kept a buzz going through the best years of the program's history, including 4 FF trips and 2 finals appearances.

Nowadays, the building is no longer new ... and the program has fallen off just enough to register. I don't think it's fair to blame the students, or STH's or the band, or the zamboni or the economy, or whatever. JMHO.
 
Re: UNH Wildcats 2010 off-season thread

The student sections cheers should be led by students. I agree that the status quo has led to no innovation. Unless, of course, you consider innovation stealing other schools cheers.
Very few of the cheers that preceded them were actually original. Newspapers, *clap* you suck, remote control goalie (skate, turn, tap, SQUAT!), ex-lax, winning team/losing team, etc. can be heard in other rinks. They have added numerous songs and cheers like "leaky and you know it", the alternate lyrics to "Hey Baby!", "Go Blue/Go White", "We're all behind you", etc. They also broke the monotony of "U-N-H! U-N-H!" with the addition of "Let's Go Cats!", "Go! Cats! Go!", and the re-introduction of "Let's Go Blue!".
 
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Nowadays, the building is no longer new ... and the program has fallen off just enough to register. I don't think it's fair to blame the students, or STH's or the band, or the zamboni or the economy, or whatever. JMHO.
Chucks, shhhhh, dey tink dey matture, merde. :rolleyes:

Good ockey, et maybe dont running out of the clams chowdure alf way tru da seconde periode, eh, et we gonna be ok. Zee Rabbit promise.
 
Re: UNH Wildcats 2010 off-season thread

about 5 years ago, a big jumbo tron screen that was capable of replays and such, went for 1.5 million....since we have no Alfond, King, or Eggleston, I don't see that happening soon.....
 
Re: UNH Wildcats 2010 off-season thread

Building still gets loud when the team plays hard, takes the body, pushes the pace - exciting hockey.

Tada everybody stands and cheers - students & STH alike.

When they play flat-sloppy uninspiring hockey, there is a generally flat crowd.
 
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And where did anyone say that? People want to see/hear the college atmosphere at the games again. Not sure what that has to do with "matture"-ing.
Where? MON DIEU!!! my good man, dis hole frikking tred nutting but a cry pour attention from sums a you.

"If everyone just did the cheers like I want them to, everything would be just fine. But they won't, they just won't. I hate it I hate it I hate it oooooowh I just hate it!"
 
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Re: Simple really ...

Where? MON DIEU!!! my good man, dis hole frikking tred nutting but a cry pour attention from sums a you.

"If everyone just did the cheers like I want them to, everything would be just fine. But they won't, they just won't. I hate it I hate it I hate it oooooowh I just hate it!"
Ah. You might have a point. The fans shouldn't be discussing the atmosphere and attitudes of the fans. It's not like it's the one aspect of a game on which we actually have any effect. And really, it's not that big a deal, anyway. It's not like UNH has (had?) a reputation of being a loud, raucous place where it was fun to watch as a spectator and (dare I say it?) hard to play as the visiting team.

Nah, we should stick to topics that we really have no control over.
 
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Ah. You might have a point. The fans shouldn't be discussing the atmosphere and attitudes of the fans. It's not like it's the one aspect of a game on which we actually have any effect. And really, it's not that big a deal, anyway. It's not like UNH has (had?) a reputation of being a loud, raucous place where it was fun to watch as a spectator and (dare I say it?) hard to play as the visiting team.

Nah, we should stick to topics that we really have no control over.
Monsieur, I not ave de probleme wif de fans talking bout ow da Whitts is ou isnt zees day. Mais when zee olde studentes saying dat zee new studentes is wrong cuz dey dont cheer juste like de olde ones I juste gonna call zee bullschitts on zat, d'accord?
 
energy first

energy first

Put a better quality on-ice product out there, and everything solves itself.

JB said:
When they play flat-sloppy uninspiring hockey, there is a generally flat crowd.

Yes. It's hard not to sit on my hands when the team disappoints. "The Shift" in January's Cornell game is a poignant example: how long was it before they even cleared the puck? And what was our response? Relieved outburst of cheering, then right back to sitting on our hands.

I went to the Maine games in Orono this year (I know, whoopdedoo) and noticed almost right away two things. 1. The arena staff were incredibly rude and 2. Even in the first period of the first game, when things were not going well for Maine, the crowd was rowdy. There were cheers from the student section - not just cheers, but varied cheers, and it got the place up. Now, I couldn't see the jumbotron without holding my head under my arm, but I don't think the cheers were led by the 'tron-strosity. Maine already has energy in their building, a flat show didn't affect it, and they didn't need to be led like sheep. (let's not make comments about sheep, now)

Flat play kills sound in a place that didn't have a lot of energy to begin with. If there's energy, there's still chatter - that "buzz" you get at a really good arena - even if there isn't a constant string of arena-rocking chants.

I'm not saying using the big screen is the answer to all the problems. I proposed using it as a starting-off point, seeing how successful it was with the stick-figure cheer. What else are we going to put on the table?
 
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Where? MON DIEU!!! my good man, dis hole frikking tred nutting but a cry pour attention from sums a you.

"If everyone just did the cheers like I want them to, everything would be just fine. But they won't, they just won't. I hate it I hate it I hate it oooooowh I just hate it!"

Jacques, if you're not going to offer anything constructive towards our goal of improving the atmosphere at UNH hockey games, why don't you try and refrain from posting? You're really detracting from a thread in which all the other posters, even the ones that disagree, are trying to find common ground. You're just flaming -- and failing, by the way. CbG's taking the high road, which must really get under your skin.

And at no point did any of the people who lead the cheers ever say, "LOOK AT ME." In fact, they've been particularly quiet.

@Cgoodwin: If CbG is done giving up the bell, make sure you have somebody who can handle that. This goes back to why I think it may be a good idea to have the Hosers involved in a transition; yes, there are tons of things a new group can bring, but some things, like Go! Fight! Win! should be carried on, IMO . . .
 
Re: UNH Wildcats 2010 off-season thread

bro ,these attention whores have not gone away in a decade. Ignoring them might work, but no one ever does.
 
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Jacques, if you're not going to offer anything constructive towards our goal of improving the atmosphere at UNH hockey games, why don't you try and refrain from posting? You're really detracting from a thread in which all the other posters, even the ones that disagree, are trying to find common ground. You're just flaming -- and failing, by the way. CbG's taking the high road, which must really get under your skin.

And at no point did any of the people who lead the cheers ever say, "LOOK AT ME." In fact, they've been particularly quiet.

@Cgoodwin: If CbG is done giving up the bell, make sure you have somebody who can handle that. This goes back to why I think it may be a good idea to have the Hosers involved in a transition; yes, there are tons of things a new group can bring, but some things, like Go! Fight! Win! should be carried on, IMO . . .

I don't think Matt is done with the bell yet. Our plan, or at least my plan, was to find someone else to take the bell and if we were to move our seats away from GA we were going to take our bell with us and play some stuff getting our sections into it and then one would still be in the students' section leading their cheers.
 
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I don't think Matt is done with the bell yet. Our plan, or at least my plan, was to find someone else to take the bell and if we were to move our seats away from GA we were going to take our bell with us and play some stuff getting our sections into it and then one would still be in the students' section leading their cheers.

Does Athletics have to bestow their blessing on the bell? The group Cloud and I are working on would benefit from a bell on some chants/songs, and I've got my own for the purpose.
 
Re: UNH Wildcats 2010 off-season thread

Trying to fill in the time between the first game blowout (BTW, how would we have done against Wisco. Not 6-1, but without a doubt it would have been a loss).

Few points. First, forget a jumbotron. UNH does not have the money, there is no sponsor on the horizon who is going to shell out for a BU type screen and, besides, my take is that they turn the fans into lemmings. Been to a Bruins or Celtics game lately? The only time the noise comes up is when Big Brother tells them it is time to cheer. Is THAT the atmosphere you want at the Whit?

Second, never reference Wisconsin when lamenting about UNH. Badger fans are one of a kind and have been for over 50 years. Yes, alums cheer at Wisco games, but because the whole shtick has been ingrained in them since they were fuzzy faced freshman 30-40-50 years ago. It's part of a Badger fan's DNA. My neighbor's son went to Michigan State, another fine Big Ten institution with a history of athletic achievement, and even he says that Wisco has the best fans in the Big Ten.

Like tCBG, I was very impressed with the student section at Maine this year. But I have been there other years (2008 for instance), when they were getting blasted by UNH, and the crowd was comatose. Their band and their fans can be pretty electric, but they certainly have ripped off a few things that belong to Wisconsin (Budweiser riff, the Rouser, etc.). You would think that they would be embarrassed to do so but, after all, it is the school that welcomed Shawn Walsh back with open arms.

Re: STH, I am one, and have been since the Whit opened. I've probably attended 90% of the home games over the past 35 years and there is no question that there is a difference between Snively and the Whit. First and foremost, the Whit is twice as large. That pretty much means that, to fill the arena, you are going to get more casual fans. If things are going well, the team is scoring goals, they are into it. If it is a snoozer, not much going on, they are prone to sit on their hands. Second, and I think this is the biggest thing, is that the leaders in the student section sit right on the glass. I know you guys love those seats (I stood in the equivalent back in my student days) but, let's face it, when you start a cheer no one can hear you beyond the student section. I think you have to decide which is more important, a great seat for viewing or a great seat for leading cheers. If it is the former, then it is time to give up the role and let those higher up in the stands get things going. I sit down in Section 105 and watch you guys and it is almost like you are in an isolation booth. I can see you yelling, see you clapping, but I can't hear a thing. If your choice is to rouse not only the student section, but the entire crowd, you're gonna have to move. Back when I was a student, the cheers were led by students sitting right behind the visitors bench, and played off by students on the opposite side of the ice. That is impossible to duplicate now, of course, but the key was that the students could be heard. You guys can't, it just ain't working. Time for the band, if they are going to be there every game (important point), and are willing, to take the lead.

Final thing - Chris!!!!, Eaglebunny, Bobby Brady, Carmine, Jacques. Why does my cynical nature lead me to link these names together. And why do they feel that it is worthy of their time to pollute our thread when their own team is about to face off in the national semi-finals. Agree Chuck? If you don't, I'm sure Bobo will.

Carry on.
 
Re: UNH Wildcats 2010 off-season thread

Greg,
I know it's a neutral site, but Wisconsin manhandled UNH in October. No contest, both nights. I was there. In fact, I saw UNH play against all the Frozen Four teams. Wisco was by far the best.
 
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