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UNH Hockey: Treading Water or Trending Upward

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RECALCULATING!

We are currently 9-8-1 in Hockey East and 15-11-2 overall.

With 6 games left, 2 with BU, UML and BC, 20 wins in the RS is possible but highly improbable! I'm thinking we split with UML and BU and lose and tie BC to go 17-14-3 overall 11-11-2 in Hockey East.

Where 24 points in Hockey East puts the Cats is anybody's guess!
 
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Obviously Lekkas was huge last night as expected. Was glad we got the win and was remiss not to mention the PP goal by Max. I watched him with great intent last night. Given the opponent his skating and offensive sense really stood out. We will need that big time in the games to come. All players need to come to play a full 60 to make it into the post season!

Also Engaras has quietly continued to be a great addition to the team. Smart player and I think I we will see more good things from him. Hoping Charlie Chase and Sato will be back in the line up soon!

Couple of things: Darius what's up? Miss your level headed commentary. Keeps me grounded 😀 Like Chuck I think it's fine to debate stuff here. Cant take it personally. And Chuck: why why why did I click on your you tube? (Twice 😳) Shame on me hahaha. Should have known better...Snowflake that I am....ha!!!

Going to be a wild finish to the HE final standings. One game at a time...Going to have to put on our big boy pants and skates going forward. Anything can happen!!! Go 'Cats!!!
 
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Obviously Lekkas was huge last night as expected. Was glad we got the win and was remiss not to mention the PP goal by Max. I watched him with great intent last night. Given the opponent his skating and offensive sense really stood out. We will need that big time in the games to come. All players need to come to play a full 60 to make it into the post season!

Also Engaras has quietly continued to be a great addition to the team. Smart player and I think I we will see more good things from him. Hoping Charlie Chase and Sato will be back in the line up soon!

Couple of things: Darius what's up? Miss your level headed commentary. Keeps me grounded �� Like Chuck I think it's fine to debate stuff here. Cant take it personally. And Chuck: why why why did I click on your you tube? (Twice ��) Shame on me hahaha. Should have known better...Snowflake that I am....ha!!!

Going to be a wild finish to the HE final standings. One game at a time...Going to have to put on our big boy pants and skates going forward. Anything can happen!!! Go 'Cats!!!

I've been impressed with Engaras as well. Terrific, all around D-1 player, he has been a positive force since getting through his seemingly-forever eligibility issues, and he's been well worth the wait. Should be well-positioned to give the 'Cats two more full seasons at an even more productive level, now that he's established himself this year in mid-season. Kudos to him, considering the crap and the waiting and all, he could have just gone home and moved on. But he didn't, and I think we're all glad he did. :)

Kudos to Gildon on getting the all-important equalizer last night early in the third. If UNH was chasing the game much longer, it really could have gotten to be a problem, and pressing later and later could have seen frustration and loss of focus result in an error that could have deepened their deficit. Big players are supposed to make big plays, and Gildon was there when needed.

On the issue of "VSS" … uncharacteristically, I'm going to end up kind of on the fence. I've always felt the kid has got the goods and those who have pointed out that with big talent, comes big expectations … yeah, I agree with that 100%. And sometimes it can be frustrating to watch Gildon when he is not on his game, or eschews the easier/simpler play to try a risky exit that blows up in his face. You want to think the kid would know better. But a lot has been asked of Gildon during his time at UNH, and for the most part, I think he's met expectations, if not exceeded them. Recall, he was a highly sought-after player that Wisconsin basically released due to a glut of incoming talent in the position. I've said before, and I'll say again, without speculating on the specifics, but there was a reason it transpired that way. UNH was not his original first choice. And something Wisconsin saw made Gildon not their first choice in the long run either. With that said, it's kind of worked out pretty well for both here.

Would I like to see a more dependable, and more physical player? Sure. But we've gotten three (3) terrific seasons out of Max so far, which is one more season than the likes of JvR and Poturalski gave us. He also came at a time when UNH was starving for puck-moving defensemen. I liken him more to Dan Winnik (another 3 year guy), who I was never quite convinced gave us the physical play his size and stature suggested might be there (and later proved on 3rd and 4th lines across the NHL). Maybe guys like Gildon and Winnik play at 90-95% at this level, because they don't want to hurt their future chances at the next level? Another 3 year guy (TvR) suffered a horrific injury in his time at UNH, and although he's gone on to great NHL success since, he did leave a year early (and no one blamed him for it) to some degree because of that injury. Things happen.

I don't consider myself all that different from most team sports fans, in that I admire the guys who give full commitment to the team, and play the game full-out, like the most important thing in the world is winning that evening's game. And at this level, if one of those guys sticks around for all 4 years, then they've shown their commitment to the cause, and I admire that. Gildon has been here for 3 years now, and that's already one more year than many on here thought we'd get to see, so I do appreciate his commitment, in much the same way I appreciated the commitments of TvR, or Eric Nickulas or Derek Bekar. So I guess I'm more on the "glass half full" side of the debate here. And if the story ends here, I'll probably look back at things that way.

But if Gildon sticks around for all four years, and UNH continues to makes its way back to not only respectability (which is kind of where they are now) but then on to true competitiveness at the top level of the league, we will all look back at his career as a kid who wasn't meant to be here at the outset, but somehow did end up here, gave his all (or pretty darned close to it), and got the UNH program out of the toilet when he started, and back to true relevance by the time he left it. The next three weeks will tell a tale, no doubt, and if it ends well this season, I will wish the guy well if he decides it's time to move on.

The possibility of a Year Four, and completion of a transformative turnaround, could see Gildon elevated in the hearts and minds of the UNH faithful like few before him have been.

And that's what I'm still rooting for. JMHO. :)

P.S. to HR - thanks as always for being a good sport. We're all fans in our different ways. :D
 
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UNH hockey was very fortunate to have not only Gildon come our way but Anthony Wyse as well as Benton Maass (he wasn't a recruit if I have that right?) The more the merrier!
 
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UNH hockey was very fortunate to have not only Gildon come our way but Anthony Wyse as well as Benton Maass (he wasn't a recruit if I have that right?) The more the merrier!

IIRC Wyse was originally a BU commit. Don't recall Maass being a commit elsewhere, but I could well be wrong on that? While both are very good players at this level … with all due respect to both of them, they're not really even all that close to Gildon's talent and impact. And that's coming from me, the self-anointed champion of four year guys who bring it every night.

Going WAY back … one of the most endearing things about a guy like Bobby Orr was that in addition his otherworldly talent, he just never took a shift off, much less a period or a full game. The "smart guys" might look back in retrospect and question why Orr went out there, night after night, shift after shift, with all his injury-induced limitations, and put himself at continual risk of further injury and shortening his career (which he absolutely ended up doing). And the answer was/is … that's just the way the guy was wired, and it's what was at the foundation of his greatness. It cost him big-time on length of career, and on money as well (although as many of you know, that part was a wee bit more complicated).

None of us know (yet) how Gildon is wired, nor do we know what kind of voices are in his ear as far as his plans for the future. I'm certainly not wanting to cast this as "Gildon is the next Bobby Orr" because that's not what I'm trying to say here. But he does have huge talent and potential, and sometimes the way he runs the game when he's out on the ice is reminiscent of Orr. Maybe if he was playing somewhere other than in New England, where folks over 55 or so automatically compare every elite puck-carrying offensive D-man to Orr, some of these questions might not be surfacing. But he's here, and I think it's a factor when some criticism comes his way from time to time. TBF I know it's there in the back of my mind. And I can honestly say, that's never ever been a thought that even came close to crossing my mind watching any other UNH defenseman (or player) over the last 45 or so seasons. I guess I wonder if maybe that's behind what some of my fellow UNH fans see and think here?
 
IIRC Wyse was originally a BU commit. Don't recall Maass being a commit elsewhere, but I could well be wrong on that? While both are very good players at this level … with all due respect to both of them, they're not really even all that close to Gildon's talent and impact. And that's coming from me, the self-anointed champion of four year guys who bring it every night.

Going WAY back … one of the most endearing things about a guy like Bobby Orr was that in addition his otherworldly talent, he just never took a shift off, much less a period or a full game. The "smart guys" might look back in retrospect and question why Orr went out there, night after night, shift after shift, with all his injury-induced limitations, and put himself at continual risk of further injury and shortening his career (which he absolutely ended up doing). And the answer was/is … that's just the way the guy was wired, and it's what was at the foundation of his greatness. It cost him big-time on length of career, and on money as well (although as many of you know, that part was a wee bit more complicated).

None of us know (yet) how Gildon is wired, nor do we know what kind of voices are in his ear as far as his plans for the future. I'm certainly not wanting to cast this as "Gildon is the next Bobby Orr" because that's not what I'm trying to say here. But he does have huge talent and potential, and sometimes the way he runs the game when he's out on the ice is reminiscent of Orr. Maybe if he was playing somewhere other than in New England, where folks over 55 or so automatically compare every elite puck-carrying offensive D-man to Orr, some of these questions might not be surfacing. But he's here, and I think it's a factor when some criticism comes his way from time to time. TBF I know it's there in the back of my mind. And I can honestly say, that's never ever been a thought that even came close to crossing my mind watching any other UNH defenseman (or player) over the last 45 or so seasons. I guess I wonder if maybe that's behind what some of my fellow UNH fans see and think here?

45 or so seasons = Rod Langway!

55 or so seasons = Brad Houston. :-)
 
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(BTW I always support creation of imaginative player tags, or tags for others, just makes things more fun IMO).
I'd go with infantile (coaches, staff), occasionally amusing (NICC or whatever), completely uncalled for and inappropriate (players).

Darius what's up? Miss your level headed commentary. Keeps me grounded ??
Just busy and avoiding bringing a crappy attitude to the board after the UConn weekend, but thanks! So...

Grasso is playing as well as ever. Has a good shot at 100 career points and being next season's captain.

Compared to the UMA weekend, the Whitt atmosphere is blah. The UConn weekend still disappoints. We squandered our games in hand advantage. It (((seemed))) we had turned a corner. UVM is absofreakinglutely wretched. The next three game weekends (((should))) be fun? Of course I am rooting for the 'cats as hard as ever, but have started watching UML in the standings. Plan B for extending the local in person NCAA Division One hockey viewing season.

What up with Gildon chatter? Does anyone seriously think we would be better off with:
him having less special teams time?
him having less possession time?
him having diminished ice time?
out him?

I figured he would leave after one year, failing to account for his age, which now gives slight hope he may stay one more year.

Maybe guys like Gildon and Winnik play at 90-95% at this level, because they don't want to hurt their future chances at the next level? Another 3 year guy (TvR) suffered a horrific injury in his time at UNH, and although he's gone on to great NHL success since, he did leave a year early (and no one blamed him for it) to some degree because of that injury. Things happen.
Maybe if they played all out all the time teammates would be unable to keep up, be less involved and less effective? Maybe if they played all out all the time they'd be unable to log the minutes that apparently the coaches deem them worthy of?
 
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IIRC Wyse was originally a BU commit. Don't recall Maass being a commit elsewhere, but I could well be wrong on that? While both are very good players at this level … with all due respect to both of them, they're not really even all that close to Gildon's talent and impact. And that's coming from me, the self-anointed champion of four year guys who bring it every night.

Going WAY back … one of the most endearing things about a guy like Bobby Orr was that in addition his otherworldly talent, he just never took a shift off, much less a period or a full game. The "smart guys" might look back in retrospect and question why Orr went out there, night after night, shift after shift, with all his injury-induced limitations, and put himself at continual risk of further injury and shortening his career (which he absolutely ended up doing). And the answer was/is … that's just the way the guy was wired, and it's what was at the foundation of his greatness. It cost him big-time on length of career, and on money as well (although as many of you know, that part was a wee bit more complicated).

None of us know (yet) how Gildon is wired, nor do we know what kind of voices are in his ear as far as his plans for the future. I'm certainly not wanting to cast this as "Gildon is the next Bobby Orr" because that's not what I'm trying to say here. But he does have huge talent and potential, and sometimes the way he runs the game when he's out on the ice is reminiscent of Orr. Maybe if he was playing somewhere other than in New England, where folks over 55 or so automatically compare every elite puck-carrying offensive D-man to Orr, some of these questions might not be surfacing. But he's here, and I think it's a factor when some criticism comes his way from time to time. TBF I know it's there in the back of my mind. And I can honestly say, that's never ever been a thought that even came close to crossing my mind watching any other UNH defenseman (or player) over the last 45 or so seasons. I guess I wonder if maybe that's behind what some of my fellow UNH fans see and think here?

Wasn't really trying to compare Wyse and Maass to Max per se...we will miss Anthony next year and couple that with Max leaving (I'd be shocked if he stayed but hoping he does!) filling that void will be tough. Of course Ryan V and Mac along with Kaille are showing great strides on the blue line.

Wow..imagine a team full of Bobby Orr's work ethic...
 
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45 or so seasons = Rod Langway!

55 or so seasons = Brad Houston. :-)

Can't speak to Houston, Snives … but Langway's style was completely different to Orr's. Like comparing (really great) apples to (really great) oranges. On the other hand, Gildon plays a very similar style game to Orr. Not as dominant, and at a lower level, but heavy emphasis on puck carrying, speed through the neutral zone, and showing up in unusual places in the attacking zone. Plus a sneaky fast/heavy shot - not as accurate - but the similarities (at least to me) are there.

Gildon scored more goals in his first two years at UNH than Langway did, and as you and other long-timers will recall, the D-1 game back then was way more wide open than the one we see these days. Again - not a shot at Langway, who I still consider the greatest player in the program's history - or trying to create unrealistic expectations or comparisons for Gildon. Just a style of play, and whether it increases expectations on him from some on here (while confessing it's probably colored my thinking to some degree). I want to see how the story ends … but if he left tomorrow, I'd still hold Gildon in higher esteem than I do JvR.

JMHO.
 
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I did not post my thoughts about the UConn weekend earlier because I did not want to be too negative, but I am going to share my main thoughts about it now. I will get to Gildon later.

My main thoughts on the UConn games:
1. The whole team was not prepared to play. I think the team under rated them and thought they could just show up and win.
2. The goaltending was no where close to the goaltending level of the previous weekend.
3. The team did not execute their defensive responsibilities very well. There were two goals against UNH on the Friday night game where two of our players went to check their player with the puck. The second goal against on the Friday night two of our forwards went out to the same point man. The third goal against was a pass below the goal line to a wide open player in the mid-slot, etc.
4. The team seemed slow transitioning from defense to offense and from offensive to defense.
5. The UConn team is considerably bigger than UNH forwards. They were beating us to the puck and winning the vast majority of the puck battles. UNH does not match up well with the bigger, more physical opponents (UConn and Maine). I am sure Dan could do the statistics on the size of our average forward versus the size of the average UConn player!
 
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I'd go with infantile (coaches, staff), occasionally amusing (NICC or whatever), completely uncalled for and inappropriate (players).

At least I got an "occasionally amusing" out of you here. "Infantile" is a little harsh, but hey - to each their own. The adults in the room should be able to handle the commentary (and sometimes criticism) implicit in their tags. I think I try to stop short of players most of the time, but I'm sure I've gone over that line a few times in the past. I did admittedly chuckle at VSS though. I'm not sure why you'd deem it "inappropriate" but again, you're entitled to your opinion and viewpoint, Mr. Scarano. :D

Compared to the UMA weekend, the Whitt atmosphere is blah. The UConn weekend still disappoints. We squandered our games in hand advantage. It (((seemed))) we had turned a corner. UVM is absofreakinglutely wretched. The next three game weekends (((should))) be fun? Of course I am rooting for the 'cats as hard as ever, but have started watching UML in the standings. Plan B for extending the local in person NCAA Division One hockey viewing season.

Have to agree 100% with you, the UConn weekend was a proverbial kick in the shorts. Even a split, and look where UNH would be right now. But that's over and done with, and all we can do now is look ahead and hope the 'Cats build on things against BU, who will be coming off playing Northeastern in the Beanpot Finals, and should be ripe for a letdown. Ditto NU next weekend, against whomever.

Maybe if they played all out all the time teammates would be unable to keep up, be less involved and less effective? Maybe if they played all out all the time they'd be unable to log the minutes that apparently the coaches deem them worthy of?

Maybe the elite players at this level address the demands for ice time with heavy conditioning work? They're only playing two games per week … next year or in the future, in the pros, they'll be playing 3, sometimes 4 games per week, maybe with the same ice time demands, plus against (and with) what will likely be a higher overall talent level at the next level(s)??

:confused:

I would hope it's not asked of the elite players at this level to "slow down" so your slower and/or less-talented teammates can keep up ... which of course would help those pesky slower and/or less talented opponents better keep up and hold their own against what would be a decided competitive advantage?!?

:rolleyes:

Just saying … this last bit may not have been your best argument ever, Darius.
 
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Odds to win 2020 Frozen Four published in today’s NY Post.
UNH 100/1

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Others
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BU 100/1
 
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IIRC Wyse was originally a BU commit. Don't recall Maass being a commit elsewhere, but I could well be wrong on that? While both are very good players at this level … with all due respect to both of them, they're not really even all that close to Gildon's talent and impact. And that's coming from me, the self-anointed champion of four year guys who bring it every night.

Wyse was a Dartmouth commit who if I recall correctly had an academic admissions issue that led to us being able to nab him. Maass was uncommitted and brought in after his senior high school season (after finishing out that season in juniors) which was probably earlier than anyone else talking to him was willing to offer. We had the bad fortunes of being very short on our defensive side at the time that led to the good furtunes of having space when Gildon, Wyse, Maass, Mackinnon, and now Reid were suddenly available. It's not a good primary strategy to wait for someone else to leave you talents of that level but it was a great way to jump start what has been a climb out of the basement.

I hear a lot of concern over the playoffs this year and I get it. What we are seeing this year is a very strange set of standings and the unfortunate thing is one team that has had a very good season is going to be left out. I honestly hope it is not UNH but if it is I will in no way consider it a wasted season or a bad one. Whatever happens I would hope that we can build on it and continue the progress that has occurred in the 2 years under MS7. From what we have seen this year this team can go into Mullins and win, they can go into Schneider and win, so just get into the playoffs and who knows what can happen. Again, if they are the odd man out it will be a tough break but I'll take the results of this season as a net positive.

I'm going to keep out of the "thumbs up, thumbs down" on Gildon. All I am going to say is (Disclaimer: no inside information) watching him develop different parts of his game this season and now seeing him being paired with different (FR/SO) players I think there is a chance that this is not his last season at UNH.
 
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Wyse was a Dartmouth commit who if I recall correctly had an academic admissions issue that led to us being able to nab him. Maass was uncommitted and brought in after his senior high school season (after finishing out that season in juniors) which was probably earlier than anyone else talking to him was willing to offer. We had the bad fortunes of being very short on our defensive side at the time that led to the good furtunes of having space when Gildon, Wyse, Maass, Mackinnon, and now Reid were suddenly available. It's not a good primary strategy to wait for someone else to leave you talents of that level but it was a great way to jump start what has been a climb out of the basement.

I hear a lot of concern over the playoffs this year and I get it. What we are seeing this year is a very strange set of standings and the unfortunate thing is one team that has had a very good season is going to be left out. I honestly hope it is not UNH but if it is I will in no way consider it a wasted season or a bad one. Whatever happens I would hope that we can build on it and continue the progress that has occurred in the 2 years under MS7. From what we have seen this year this team can go into Mullins and win, they can go into Schneider and win, so just get into the playoffs and who knows what can happen. Again, if they are the odd man out it will be a tough break but I'll take the results of this season as a net positive.

I'm going to keep out of the "thumbs up, thumbs down" on Gildon. All I am going to say is (Disclaimer: no inside information) watching him develop different parts of his game this season and now seeing him being paired with different (FR/SO) players I think there is a chance that this is not his last season at UNH.

Thanks for that update and positive spin on the possibility of being left out of the post season. Very good points about how far we've come. And oh yea, that's right about Benton Maass. I'm excited for Reid to get here as well. You are right; the 'Cats have shown they can win big games and that will hopefully carry over as the culture is being formed under MS7 and co. Enjoy the Beanpot games...(here's also hoping your prediction that MG stays for his Senior year!!!) go 'Cats!!
 
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At least I got an "occasionally amusing" out of you here. "Infantile" is a little harsh, but hey - to each their own. The adults in the room should be able to handle the commentary (and sometimes criticism) implicit in their tags. I think I try to stop short of players most of the time, but I'm sure I've gone over that line a few times in the past. I did admittedly chuckle at VSS though. I'm not sure why you'd deem it "inappropriate" but again, you're entitled to your opinion and viewpoint, Mr. Scarano. :D
Yeah, I should have gone with childish.:D Inappropriate because they are student athletes, basically kids. Run it through the "if this were my child" filter.

Maybe the elite players at this level address the demands for ice time with heavy conditioning work? They're only playing two games per week … next year or in the future, in the pros, they'll be playing 3, sometimes 4 games per week, maybe with the same ice time demands, plus against (and with) what will likely be a higher overall talent level at the next level(s)??

:confused:

:rolleyes:

Just saying … this last bit may not have been your best argument ever, Darius.
Wasn't arguing, just thinking. Pros don't have to worry about class, limited practice time.

I would hope it's not asked of the elite players at this level to "slow down" so your slower and/or less-talented teammates can keep up ... which of course would help those pesky slower and/or less talented opponents better keep up and hold their own against what would be a decided competitive advantage?!?
Not suggesting "asked", but wondering if a reality.
 
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A little shocking: The Bruins lose to the Red Wings. Even the pros do not always win when they should!
 
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More thoughts on Gildon and not from a phone keyboard...

When I look at a elite D-man I think they need to have at least solid skills in each end with somethings "elite" to go with it, strong situational awareness and the toughness to deal with the extra attention they are going to get. That would be elite at any level and compared to others at that same level.

For my view on Gildon:

Offensively: he has excellent to elite skills at the college level. At times passing could be more accurate (you see it on PP when passing for one timers) and shot accuracy would make him even more dangerous. Decision making is something that needs to develop, knowing when to make the safe play vs take the chance. This is also why his turnovers and gafs are glaringly obvious and easy to point out.

Defense: this is the end of the ice where there is more work to be done. Most glaringly in the last two weeks is a surprisingly poor ability to play a 2 on 1, Uconn scored easily and UVM would have as well if they weren't UVM. In both cases Gildon was in no mans land ultimately doing nothing to prevent the pass or playing either player. I never like to say a player isn't putting in "effort" as only they know, so it is awareness identifying the play and what to do.

On the physical end it is funny I don't look at Gildon's size and expect him to be more physical. Hockey is not the contact sport it was once. I do think he needs to be able to take a hit and not have such a drop of in decision making. If physically he was "Torey Krug" who has developed the ability to take a hit and not get affected I would be happy.

BIG MAYBE - we see what UNH looks like without Gildon during physical games as his play seems to have a big drop off.
 
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I am not a fan of calling out players by name for their mistakes. I feel it is inappropriate. I could call out the same two defensemen that were on the ice for the first two goals against UConn in the Friday night game, but I will not. I could call out the forwards that did not execute their defensive responsibilities, but I will not. I do not think it is in the best interest of any college program!
 
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Now for general thoughts on Gildon:

Why are quarterbacks in football involved in so many turnovers? Because they handle the football more than all other players on a football team. I believe we would all be shocked how many times Gildon handles the puck in a game. If somebody, maybe Dan, had the time to track how many puck touches all six defensemen had in the Vermont game last night I would not be surprised if Gildon had almost as many as the other five defensemen combined.

There are different styles of defensemen in the game of hockey. The best example I can thing of right now is Scott Niedermayer and Scott Stevens of the New Jersey Devils of the past. Niedermayer was more of a finesse, puck possession defenseman and Stevens was more of a physical, hard hitting defenseman. Both very good defensemen, but very different in their style of play. Sorta like Gildon and Wyse. Do you think their coaches with the Devils told Niedermayer that he needed to be a hard hitting defenseman like Stevens? I highly doubt it. And I doubt the UNH coaches want Gildon to check like Wyse. Some people believe all defensemen should play like Scott Stevens, while other people have a higher hockey intelligence and realize that Orr, Coffey, Niedermayer were very good defensemen in their way of playing the game.

If Tom Brady were to have challenged every linebacker by lowering his shoulder and trying to run them over for an extra yard or two he would have spent have of his career injured and not playing. His career would have been done years ago.
 
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