Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Hey, if he uses it as motivation to make improvements, good for him.
I will be looking for photgraphic evidence, though ... ;-)
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UNH Hockey 2023 Off Season Thread Turn and Face the Strange
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Hey, if he uses it as motivation to make improvements, good for him.
I will be looking for photgraphic evidence, though ... ;-)
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Starting to close in on the Top 100 overall. I haven't the faintest clue on how these ratings are calculated, but always good to see the kids' alma mater zooming up the rankings! Good starts for Men's Soccer and Football too (and RIP Buddy Teevens - tough week for '70's sports icons), so the pressure will be on for the new Hoops coach and the stayed-too-long Hockey coach(es) when their seasons get cranked up in a month or two.
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Odd that Michigan State, which for years has been dropping because of facilities, gets a new Head Coach who has relationships with kids through the US National Program, and suddenly they have a top 5 recruiting class.
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Just to purge the final bits of preseason flashback to the glory of 1970's NHL goon hockey ... I wanted to follow up by touching on the outcome of the Glennie-Maloney incident later in 1975, which did not lack for clear video evidence of the entire sordid situation (unlike in Boucha-Forbes that was "spared" by wayward cameras and a possible commercial break). A few random comments to set the stage though ... at the time, Maloney was probably the consensus reigning "Heavyweight Champ" of the NHL for work he had accomplished earlier in his career in Chicago and then in Los Angeles, where he beat the cream of the crop heavies like Dave Schultz and Eddie Shack, and began a long history with Terry O'Reilly that would carry over later into their careers. When Marcel Dionne left Detroit after the '74/'75 season to sign with the Kings, Maloney was viewed as the key piece of compensation sent over to Detroit, and for almost three years Maloney gave the Dead Wings rare plus hockey on two bad teams, and helped lead the nearly .500 '78 Wings to a rare playoffs appearance, despite being traded to Toronto for Errol Thompson down the stretch. So at a down time in the Wings' history, Maloney was usually a rare bright spot.
Maloney was early in his Detroit tenure when the Glennie incident occurred. In researching this, I found video of his prior game against the Rangers, when he hit NYR's Pat Hickey with a late check into the boards after a goal (easy to find if you'd like), and Maloney probably should've gotten more than the 5 minute boarding call he was given. So there's no doubt that when the featured incident occurred two days later (video linked below) with the initiating hit by Glennie on Dead Wings forward Bryan Hextall - a classic hip check that sent Hextall a$$-over-teakettle to break up a Wings' rush - provoking a pair of sucker punches from Maloney, DRW#7 was a man on a mission. The clip is brief, unlike the Boucha clip, but it shows you all you need to know. The incident would lead to the de facto sequel to the Dave Forbes trial, this time in an Ontario court.
Maloney Of Wings Acquitted - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
A few other random things that occurred to me while going through the subject matter on the Maloney case:
* Maloney was wearing #7 (FWIW to be worn later by other DRW's), eventually retired for "Terrible" Ted Lindsey;
* Retiring jersey numbers wasn't as frequent then as now. Dale McCourt would wear Alex DelVecchio's #10 for years;
* Henry Boucha wore DRW #16, a jersey that hasn't been worn since Vlad Konstantinov's post-Cup '97 limo accident;
* Bryan Hextall - *victim* of Glennie's hip check - was traded a month later to the Stars for brother Dennis Hextall;
* When DRW signed LA's Rogie Vachon in Summer '78, LAK asked for McCourt and Maloney (neither went/long story);
* Leafs' owner Harold Ballard had long lusted for Dan Maloney to "toughen up" his team, and got him in late '78.
There was another DRW-related incident in October of '78 involving the diminutive-yet-combative DRW #8 Dennis Polonich, and Colorado Rockies' F Wilf Paiement, which (after the acquittals of Forbes and then Maloney) did not see Paiement charged. Paiement and Colorado did face a civil suit, though, and perhaps relying too heavily on the Forbes and Maloney juries' lack of willingness to assess criminal penalties, the defendants rejected mediation, and Polonich was awarded a then-staggering sum of USD $850,000 by a Michigan jury. There are references in some of the media coverage as to a USD $3.5 million "settlement" paid to Boucha, but that was the same number as they demanded at the outset, so chances are that Boucha's settlement would most likely have been in the territory of Polonich's award. As both Boucha and Polonich were represented by the same Detroit area attorney in their civil cases, I recall his name coming up again most recently 20 years ago in the infamous Moore-Bertuzzi assault. I will say, NHL hockey back in the days of Slapshot ... not an exaggeration at all ...
Maloney was early in his Detroit tenure when the Glennie incident occurred. In researching this, I found video of his prior game against the Rangers, when he hit NYR's Pat Hickey with a late check into the boards after a goal (easy to find if you'd like), and Maloney probably should've gotten more than the 5 minute boarding call he was given. So there's no doubt that when the featured incident occurred two days later (video linked below) with the initiating hit by Glennie on Dead Wings forward Bryan Hextall - a classic hip check that sent Hextall a$$-over-teakettle to break up a Wings' rush - provoking a pair of sucker punches from Maloney, DRW#7 was a man on a mission. The clip is brief, unlike the Boucha clip, but it shows you all you need to know. The incident would lead to the de facto sequel to the Dave Forbes trial, this time in an Ontario court.
Maloney Of Wings Acquitted - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
A few other random things that occurred to me while going through the subject matter on the Maloney case:
* Maloney was wearing #7 (FWIW to be worn later by other DRW's), eventually retired for "Terrible" Ted Lindsey;
* Retiring jersey numbers wasn't as frequent then as now. Dale McCourt would wear Alex DelVecchio's #10 for years;
* Henry Boucha wore DRW #16, a jersey that hasn't been worn since Vlad Konstantinov's post-Cup '97 limo accident;
* Bryan Hextall - *victim* of Glennie's hip check - was traded a month later to the Stars for brother Dennis Hextall;
* When DRW signed LA's Rogie Vachon in Summer '78, LAK asked for McCourt and Maloney (neither went/long story);
* Leafs' owner Harold Ballard had long lusted for Dan Maloney to "toughen up" his team, and got him in late '78.
There was another DRW-related incident in October of '78 involving the diminutive-yet-combative DRW #8 Dennis Polonich, and Colorado Rockies' F Wilf Paiement, which (after the acquittals of Forbes and then Maloney) did not see Paiement charged. Paiement and Colorado did face a civil suit, though, and perhaps relying too heavily on the Forbes and Maloney juries' lack of willingness to assess criminal penalties, the defendants rejected mediation, and Polonich was awarded a then-staggering sum of USD $850,000 by a Michigan jury. There are references in some of the media coverage as to a USD $3.5 million "settlement" paid to Boucha, but that was the same number as they demanded at the outset, so chances are that Boucha's settlement would most likely have been in the territory of Polonich's award. As both Boucha and Polonich were represented by the same Detroit area attorney in their civil cases, I recall his name coming up again most recently 20 years ago in the infamous Moore-Bertuzzi assault. I will say, NHL hockey back in the days of Slapshot ... not an exaggeration at all ...
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Things that make you go hmmmm....
I thought that MS7 supposedly “had relationships” with all the hot shot Euro kids? Why cannot we be a “top 5 recruiting class”?
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Well, after almost a decade's worth of recruiting work for his alma mater, MS7 seems to have finally gotten a foothold in the Baltics with the Sardarian and Skrastins (sp?) kids. His foray into Sweden was brief and unimpressive, and his dalliance in Japan short-lived. But now that he's bringing the best and brightest emerging hockey talent from the recruiting hotbeds of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia ... the sky's the limit ...
... or at least he and the new Hoops coach can now justify an annual joint recruiting junket to beautiful Riga ...
“Where is Kohei Sato now,” you ask? After playing his Div 1 fifth/grad season for Bentley, Kohei played for two teams in Finland last season: Jokipojat Joensun and JeuPa HT. HR, whatever happened to the rumored Finns that were supposedly coming to UNH?
I went to the U so my math could be off, but 74-26 is a big spread from 9 to 10..... But we have a sponsor and new locker room so the tide will switch
Back again, here are my thoughts and questions
Without cheating and looking at the roster page on the website, who can name the 4 UNH goalies for this year? I saw one guy on the roster and had to ask some of the guys the other night who he was...
Just paid my $85 for tailgating at parents' weekend. Nothing like bending over everyone for a spot in B lot. My thought is hockey season ticket holders should have early access to tailgating tickets as a perk, thoughts?
Without cheating and looking at the roster page on the website, who can name the 4 UNH goalies for this year? I saw one guy on the roster and had to ask some of the guys the other night who he was...
Just paid my $85 for tailgating at parents' weekend. Nothing like bending over everyone for a spot in B lot. My thought is hockey season ticket holders should have early access to tailgating tickets as a perk, thoughts?
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Mucinex, Foreman, you and me, norbie.
HockeyRef
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hmmm have no idea about the Finns, but isn't Kohei playing for the Belfast Giants this season, along with I think, without looking, Ara Nazarian? Just checked, yes, he is (along with
Nazarian). For some reason I though Liam Blackburn was heading there as well but isn't on the roster.
HockeyRef
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Perks? You want perks? You get to go upstairs before games and cheaper soda...haha Muszelik and the new guy from NoDak (without looking, can't think of the name) plus
Forman, and one who's last name starts with a G-again, without looking...
Since you were speaking with the guys, what's their outlook for the season, if that came up of course...
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Com’on, let’s get with it. Our incoming transfer goalie from Ljusdal, Sweden, via Nodak, is Jakob Hellsten. He is one of two incoming players that MS7 scored in the portal, the other being D-man Luis Lindner from Spittal der Drau, Austria, via AIC. All just rolls off the tongue as we become a more international team.
Robert Balin
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Iv'e been following the recruiting since August 1st and UNH has struck out big time. 3 players have been defurred. Sadowski, Primerano and Eckholm, all pushed back to 2025.So do they replace them with a few high caliber players or more fill in types?.
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For accuracy sake, Munn arena did finish in 2022 renovations, just in time for the new HC to take credit and roll it into better recruiting.
So it would support the argument that facilities make a difference. But it also could support my point that a new HC makes a difference.
Let's not conduct an experiment attempting to isolate causation and instead change both potential causes?
So it would support the argument that facilities make a difference. But it also could support my point that a new HC makes a difference.
Let's not conduct an experiment attempting to isolate causation and instead change both potential causes?
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
"MS7 - The Final Countdown" is a little more direct and to the point, along the same theme ...
HockeyRef
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Haha...hoping we can come up with something just alittle bit more positive? I want the team to be successful...hoping that they lose games so that
the HC can be removed really isn't, at least IMHO, in the best interest for the players on the ice, doing the heavy lifting. That said, I also want to see
positive change moving forward. If need be, if that means a coaching change is in order, then absolutely.
Sorry, I want to see the team win more than they lose (if possible)...that's just me.
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