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UNH Hockey 2023 Off Season Thread Turn and Face the Strange

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20 years ago as the Face of NH fell to pieces, began the crumbling of UNH Hockey from 4 FF trips in 6 seasons ...

https://www.unionleader.com/news/his...f823801ed.html

Was in St. Augustine Fla with my two sisters when this happened...my twin had gone into a store to buy something and mentioned she was from NH and someone said "that rock face of the Old Man you guys have up there fell last night"...she comes running out breathless to tell us and we didn't believe her. Bought a USA Today and there it was on page 3 or something. Fast forward to now, if you haven't visited the place they've done a decent job of setting up a bunch of pavers with other stuff to commemorate the Old Man. My family has a paver there along with many other North Country/NH and beyond notables.

One of those 'where were you' life items...sadly, was not a UNH hockey fan then but remember the stories of them making the Frozen Four but didn't pay alot of attention to it. Sometimes I wish I had seen UNH in those 'glory days' but, thinking about it I'd prob be really bummed (more than usual) about the situation now as many of you are.
That said, like that 'rebuilt' viewing station the state created, maybe we can do the same. I mean, you gotta always have hope...right?

Almost time for the Bruins! Lets goooooo!
 
CHN has MacPherson twins (Connor and Ryan, born 2 March 2005) arriving this fall as “true freshmen” forwards, as will be Brendan Fitzgerald, D-man from North Reading, which we all agreed is close enough to Stoneham and Melrose. Both MacPherson’s have put up good numbers in the Greater Ontario Junior Hockey League (GOJHL) with the Leamington Flyers, who are in the Sutherland Cup Playoffs for the second year in a row. Can never have enough Connor’s (or Conor’s or Conner’s) and Ryan’s on the team.

By my count on CHN, and I could be way off, we have 11 returning and 8 incoming forwards, 5 returning and 3 incoming D-men, and 3 returning and 1 incoming goalies. So, seems that we would need to postpone some incoming or give the boot to some returning to make room for the elder Siedem bro or others in portal. “I really like this team the way it is,” said MS7.

I believe the Macpherson twins are coming in 2024 per Heisenburg list. Kid to watch is Sebstian Bradshaw who was the 14th overall pick in the OHL draft.
 
Was in St. Augustine Fla with my two sisters when this happened...my twin had gone into a store to buy something and mentioned she was from NH and someone said "that rock face of the Old Man you guys have up there fell last night"...she comes running out breathless to tell us and we didn't believe her. Bought a USA Today and there it was on page 3 or something. Fast forward to now, if you haven't visited the place they've done a decent job of setting up a bunch of pavers with other stuff to commemorate the Old Man. My family has a paver there along with many other North Country/NH and beyond notables.

One of those 'where were you' life items...sadly, was not a UNH hockey fan then but remember the stories of them making the Frozen Four but didn't pay alot of attention to it. Sometimes I wish I had seen UNH in those 'glory days' but, thinking about it I'd prob be really bummed (more than usual) about the situation now as many of you are.
That said, like that 'rebuilt' viewing station the state created, maybe we can do the same. I mean, you gotta always have hope...right?

Almost time for the Bruins! Let’s goooooo!


For the decades when I was rock climbing, we would clip our ropes into the turnbuckles on top of the Old Man’s forehead to belay others up the last pitch, which was a really steep, 70-ft, V-corner on the south side of the profile that was the finale for several climbing routes that converged under the chin. Then on the weekend of 3-4 May 2003, about a month after I returned from the FF in Buffalo, I was leading a geology field trip for the Mount Washington Observatory with our planned last stop on Sunday afternoon at Profile Lake below the Old Man. A WMUR crew was still lingering the day after and I had a camera and microphone shoved in my face, but did not take their bait to attribute blame for the Old Man’s collapse, other than he had been living on borrowed “geologic” time. Friends who caught the ABC feed across the country marveled at how well I ducked the blame question. :-)
 
It would have been a very brave decision for Monty to try to continue the tandem style in the playoffs from the outset, since no one really does that, it's against the conventional NHL wisdom for the playoffs. Having said that, I think Paul Maurice has played his situation perfectly for the Panthers, as it was apparently their backup (Lyon) who they rode into the playoffs down the stretch, when it seemed like they were fading with about a month left in the schedule. So he got his reward by starting the series, prolonged his run with a Game 2 win, and then Maurice went back to Bobrovsky late in Game 4 when Lyon's play had lost its lustre. As I've said elsewhere, Bob hasn't stolen anything yet, but he has been winning elimination playoff games, and that counts for something. He's the most talented goalie in the series, and the B's can't let him get into their collective heads.

With the exception of the end of Game 6, this has been a frontrunner's series. If the B's don't have a lead after the first period tonight - maybe even a multi-goal lead - I think that will be cause for justifiable worry. If I were Monty, I would put all of my eggs into the "blast them out of the arena in the first period" basket, and along those lines, I'd be sorely tempted to start Swayman and hope you can get a clean game out of him, and maybe *just maybe* inject a little extra added urgency into the rest of the team.

The longer this one plays out as a close game, the better for the road team, playing with house money. JMHO.

Looks like Bob vs. Sway?
 
Let's go Hurricanes! A catastrophic collapse by the Bruins. Gotta hand it to the Preds...Wow.

Will Bergeron retire?

Did anyone catch the big sigh of relief from the Leafs? Unbelievable.
 
Let's go Hurricanes! A catastrophic collapse by the Bruins. Gotta hand it to the Preds...Wow.

Will Bergeron retire?

Did anyone catch the big sigh of relief from the Leafs? Unbelievable.

Preds? Bruins are the 11th President’s Trophy winner in a row not to win the SC.

Will now see if last year’s SC winner gets knocked out in first round.
 
Preds? Bruins are the 11th President’s Trophy winner in a row not to win the SC.

Will now see if last year’s SC winner gets knocked out in first round.

My pre-playoffs picks for the Cup Finals were the B's and Avs. One is out, the other is barely hanging on.

Toronto has no basis to be celebrating anyone's demise. They've made it out of the first round, yippee, now they get to face a team that beat the team that's owned them for a long LONG time now. Bye bye Leafs.

Rangers vs. 'Canes for the Eastern title in the quarters. Spudsy Gallant vs. Brind'Amour.

I have to stick with the Avs (BTW not a fan), at least until the Kraken or someone else takes them down ...
 
Then on the weekend of 3-4 May 2003, about a month after I returned from the FF in Buffalo, I was leading a geology field trip for the Mount Washington Observatory with our planned last stop on Sunday afternoon at Profile Lake below the Old Man. A WMUR crew was still lingering the day after and I had a camera and microphone shoved in my face, but did not take their bait to attribute blame for the Old Man’s collapse, other than he had been living on borrowed “geologic” time. Friends who caught the ABC feed across the country marveled at how well I ducked the blame question. :-)

You can't put that out there, and then not provide us with a hyperlink, Snives. ;-)
 
Let's go Hurricanes! A catastrophic collapse by the Bruins. Gotta hand it to the Preds...Wow.

Tell you what, 'Ref ... NHL playoff hockey is so much different than regular season hockey. If we're divvying up the blame pie, I'm surprised to say this, but the one guy who doesn't deserve any is GM Don Sweeney. He somehow put this thing back together in the offseason for one more run, and over the course of the season - especially at the deadline - he added to it in ways that no one imagined he could. He also hired Monty after the dubious firing of Cassady, and until very recently, that looked to be a masterstroke. And FWIW, it's pretty clear that if he didn't get rid of Cassady, then he wasn't going to be able to assemble the team he put out there this season. He did everything right to try to make this a special final season for the aging B's core. What happened this week isn't on him.

Who is to blame then? Two groups ... the coaching staff, and the B's aging core themselves. Unless the aging core players believed in their heart of hearts that the best they could hope for was to set meaningless regular season records - and as a DRW fan, I know all about those - then they needed to be resting down the stretch, to recharge their batteries for the playoffs. They never really did that, and Bergeron playing the RS finale in front of his family in Montreal may have been the stupidest thing in recent memory. They stubbornly refused to believe these things would apply to them, and sadly they got what they deserved.

Monty no doubt got his job because he was a players' coach, and he earned their trust by pretty much letting the aging core run the team. He should have known better, it was his job to know better, and in letting the guys running the room make the big decisions, he did not protect them from their own stubbornness (or even conceit?). He stuck too long with Ullmark, and put Swayman in a no-win situation. The Florida staff looks to have had their players thoroughly prepared to exploit weaknesses in a team that seemed to have precious little weak spots. Paul Maurice has never won a Cup, but he has a solid reputation as a capable winning coach, and he burnished that reputation by outcoaching the relative novice Montgomery. I say this with all sincerity and respect, but I truly hope Monty doesn't let this loss knock him off the wagon again, and in criticizing him for his passivity in the playoffs, I hope he learns from it. Of course, the problem now is, how much of this team will be back for his shot at redemption, or is this going to be his one and only legit shot at the whole enchilada?

The focus returns to Sweeney, who has responded to the pressure of sitting squarely on the hot seat by rising to the occasion, and giving the organization a great season and a great (if squandered) postseason opportunity. There are a lot of decisions to be made ... some players won't be back, you can't re-sign everyone within the cap, and you just spent a ton of draft capital to make the team that's now about to scatter to the winds. There is not a lot of talent left on the farm, due to poor drafting. Sweeney hit for 10 out of 10 last season, and to keep the B's remotely close to the same perch they ended this season with, he's gonna have to hit for another 9 or perfect 10 this next season. An 8 may keep his team in the playoffs, but Boston is in a dangerous spot now, and if Sweeney has a bad offseason, his vacation away from the hot seat may be a brief one. JMHO.
 
I blame Monty. Bergeron admitted after the game tonight he has a herniated disc that he got when? The last game of the season against Montreal. I'm sorry, but Monty saying "He wanted to play the last couple of games to get ready for the playoffs" is crap. EVERY player wants to play. It's up to the coach to know when to rest people in MEANINGLESS games. He burned these guys out going for a meaningless record.

Secondly, he ABANDONED his winning formula. Ullmark is not a "workhorse" that you can ride for the entire playoffs. The rotation was great all season. Did all those people who said "You CAN'T rotate goalies in the playoffs" see how EXHAUSTED he was in Game 5? And they STILL played him in Game 6 when he gave up six more. How can you blame Swayman, coming in for the FIRST time in a Game 7? I get it that coaches have to learn also. Unfortunately, there was no margin of error. It's too late to "learn" with this team, because this team and this season will never happen again.

And another thing. They won two games ON THE ROAD to go up 3-1. Bergeron came back for Game 5 and they never won again - they lost three in a row (two of them at home after losing Game 2 at home). I wonder how much of the "Let's win for Bergy" thing played into it. I have never seen a hockey team so tight in my life. They couldn't do anything. Couldn't make a 20-foot tape to tape pass. Couldn't get it out of their zone. Stood around in their own end saying "You get it." No speed going through center ice. Flat-footed at the blue line. Losing puck battles everywhere. It's like they were in cement.

Too many fancy plays. That works in the regular season when teams aren't all over you, but when there's no time and space you have to make DECISIVE plays...hard passes and getting the puck deep. They consistently did neither.

This iteration is done forever. It might be twenty years before they are in this position again (and I have probably seen them win for the last time in my lifetime). All I can say is thank goodness for May 10, 1970.

EDIT: Sorry, Chuck to reiterate a lot of what you said. I didn't read all of it before I posted...I'm pretty frustrated tonight. And I DO get the thing about Bergeron's Dad but I don't know if anyone has actually confirmed that he has cancer.
 
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You can't put that out there, and then not provide us with a hyperlink, Snives. ;-)

i was told that the clip was still out there about a decade ago, but sadly I have not been able to find it. Will bring my umbrella for what looks to be a rainy 20th reunion on Wednesday.
 
I agree with everything that Chuck and Chickod write above about the demise of the Bruins this postseason, which is pretty much what Sports Hub’s Felger and Mazz had been saying for the past month. I doubt that F&M will be able to say it any better than Chuck and Chickod on Monday afternoon. But I would add that Krejci needed more rest late in the regular season also, as he was not up to his usual postseason contributions this time around. My guess is that Krejci and Bergeron are done, but their retirement will not provide much of any cap space for next season.
 
And I DO get the thing about Bergeron's Dad but I don't know if anyone has actually confirmed that he has cancer.

Do you think Bergeron's dad - sick as he may OR may not be - would have wanted his son to put his team's Cup run (and the little bit left in his career) at risk by playing a meaningless vanity game in Montreal, as opposed to possibly drinking from the Stanley Cup with his son a couple of months later in a non-Montreal locker room? Nothing (other than Dad's health maybe?) would have prevented them from taking the Cup on a short ride through their Montreal neighborhood later this spring/summer. And let's face it - the Bell Center ain't the Forum, history-wise.

If this is all about spending time with Dad in Montreal, then there's nothing stopping him from signing with the Habs next year to serve as their Captain for a farewell season. Playing Game 82 - beyond maybe a virtually ceremonial opening faceoff, short shift or two, and spot PP duty, was foolhardy and tempted fate.

Anyway ... maybe it just wasn't gonna happen anyway. The Avs are out to the Kraken, and the Bolts lost to the Leafs, so this season is gonna be time to shine for someone new. I'm not buying the Leafs, I'm not buying the Oilers either, so maybe Vegas vs. the Rangers would get the most eyeballs, and the Rangers did load up even more than the B's at the deadline. They have their own Game 7 torture to deal with tonight though ...
 
Appreciate the perspectives here from you all..reading the twitter stuff makes it clear that this B's team, loaded with talent, wasn't built for the 'crash and bang' of the playoffs. (They did no crashing and banging, tho, so maybe that's not a fair assessment). Someone's head (s) are going to roll most likely, because that's what happens. Just too bad a guy like Bergy can earn only 1 cup, but there's tons of other great players that never won any so....Just goes to show you that if you show up, do the basics, you can get it done, the Bruins sure did make it easy for them which to me, is the worst part of all of this.

Thinking about our 'Cats, here it is May 1 and we still have roster spots open although I'm sure other teams do as well. Hoping we hear some news on Siedem, one way or the other. Like you said Chuck he's prob the best we can hope for out of the portal. Would love to see him come play for us! Imagine that the decision has already been made; just a matter
of time before we hear what that choice is...

At this point am hoping one of our UNHer's still in the game (Pesce/Foegele) go far; noticed you did not mention the Canes as a contender? And Edmonton seems like they can put it together. At this point, and after what happened to the Bruins, I guess anything is possible. Anyone but Toronto, and of course, the Panthers. HA!

Wouldn't it be something if Bruce Cassidy takes the VK all the way? (VK all the way; kind of has a nice ring to it).
 
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