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UNH Commits & Recruiting: 2016 and Beyond

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I like Dan's posts and insights also, especially given that they are coming from 2000 miles away in Colorado. The recent squabbles here have been disheartening, especially given the unhappy situation of our hockey program at UNH.

Dan's views from 2000 miles away seem to provide a perspective that sometimes varies from .... CHC's views while parked outside the UNH Fieldhouse.

On the one hand perspective can be enhanced when an object is viewed from a distance. On the other hand being close to a scene can enhance visibility.

In the final analysis, I value both of their observations .... of course it is prudent to be aware of the clouding effects of both "distance" and "being too close" to any situation.

Carry on .......
 
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He had 42 goals for BWC this past season.

Awesome! Who else on our roster (past and present) played for the Rivermen escapes me for the moment... EDIT: Vela, duh..

Any news you guys have on this player?
 
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This is more appropriate in this thread

Things are not great in UNH hockey nation at present and most posters are generally critics who think they can do better. Mike is the most trusted and best poster we have on our site. He drives two hours each way to get to each game and many practices and has done yeoman's work with our recruits. He knows the players, coaches, families, advisors and most everyone who is a legitimate UNH hockey fan or season ticket holder. Please take your anger out on the coaches if you like (I believe it is misguided) and they all have UNH emails (you can look these up on the website) and phone numbers 603 862-1234 is main line and you can talk to them directly. They have a job to do but I believe all three coaches will listen to you if you have great prospects that you feel are a good fit for UNH. It seems many posters are recruiting geniuses and our team could use your talents. Please send the names along to the coaches (I am quite sure they know who all of the players are but most of these star players are committing to the top 8-10 schools as they do every year) and please have these star players contact the UNH hockey office about their interest if they have not been contacted by UNH. It is my humble opinion that most do not have any real inside knowledge about any players that you cannot get off the internet.

I wanted to take the summer off from this site but so many are clueless about the talents of Mike Souza, you jokers sucked me in. Mike Souza is an outstanding recruiter and players and recruits like and trust him. UNH still has a little back log on incoming recruits and he is not going to pull a Boston and cut those loose who are not top two lines or defensive pairings.

If you have free time to belittle CHC on this site, please use your time better by helping out some local charities. Umile is likely leaving within the next few years and Mike Souza will be your head coach. He will very likely find another assistant who is a great recruiter like he is (Mike is earnest and cares about the players as much or more than UNH itself, unlike the competition in hockey east) who played and coached defense. I would rather play for someone like Mike as he does want to win and he will, but he really cares more about the players. The current players love him and he is there for them all day long. I urge you to stop bashing and start helping the coaching staff and the team with your incredible recruiting talents. Many of you are not UNH grads or season ticket holders so you can actually try to convince some of these student athletes to attend UNH. Maybe you know some of these players already. Please let the coaches know of these great players before posting on this site so they can be in the mix.

I have stated before that we have rarely won head to head battles with the Michigan, Minn, ND, NoDak, DU, BU, BC etc over the past 30 years and we can only hope that we will someday. Please ramp down the tone and have a little faith. We may not be great this coming year but we may be. If you want to write bad things about Coach Umile, he is used to it. I hope we do not start attacking players like last summer. Special thanks to Mike for all you do and special shout out to Hockey Ref for being our number one fan. You will see a turnaround over the next few years as we lost 12-13 one goal games this year and were only blown out in 5 or so games. Cleland will be the Captain in my opinion and there will probably be one senior A and one junior A. Take a deep breath to all and don't listen to the others Chuck as you know in your heart that Souza is and will be a great recruiter and closer. He is great with 15-25 year old kids and he will make you proud for sticking with him.

I will see many of you at the banquet and the rest of you in early October for the season opener. The schedule should be coming out in June.
 
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However, as you point out, UNH needs to get a top player, its first or second rounder sort of NFL pick. You can't count enough on hitting with the 4-7 rounders. Like the Patriots, they were stripped of two first round picks (Farabee and Ryczyk) and lost wasted a year of transition. Can they get a top pick? Let's wait and see.

They're still swinging for the fences in ball parks that have traditionally been fertile grounds. Whether the ball goes over the wall, only time will tell.

The greater Burnaby area is one of the "ball parks" I had heard about. On paper, Angus Crookshank doesn't look like a grand slam. Unlike Downing and Vela, he was not drafted by a WHL team as a bantam. However, he has excelled at the Midget U15 and Canadian prep levels and will make the jump to the Langley Rivermen (BCHL) next year as a 17-year-old. Preliminary report I've heard is he's a good player with great hands. As far as NHL "upside", he is probably more like Justin Fregona than Marcus Vela or Grayson Downing.
 
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Dan's views from 2000 miles away seem to provide a perspective that sometimes varies from .... CHC's views while parked outside the UNH Fieldhouse.

On the one hand perspective can be enhanced when an object is viewed from a distance. On the other hand being close to a scene can enhance visibility.

In the final analysis, I value both of their observations .... of course it is prudent to be aware of the clouding effects of both "distance" and "being too close" to any situation.

Carry on .......

Sonar: As someone who has ridden the UNH hockey roller coaster for more years than myself, I respect and appreciate your comments.

One thing I would like to clarify. I do live 100 miles from UNH so I only park outside the fieldhouse when I attend games. Any information that I hear about young recruits that UNH may be pursuing does not come from the UNH hockey staff. There are former students and players scattered across North America that sometimes give me a heads up about who the coaches might be targeting. I don't think it's appropriate to share the specifics of these tips on the forum or my blog. Once a youngster commits to UNH, I do try to report on his background, plans, strengths, and areas for development.
 
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This is more appropriate in this thread

Things are not great in UNH hockey nation at present and most posters are generally critics who think they can do better. Mike is the most trusted and best poster we have on our site. He drives two hours each way to get to each game and many practices and has done yeoman's work with our recruits. He knows the players, coaches, families, advisors and most everyone who is a legitimate UNH hockey fan or season ticket holder. Please take your anger out on the coaches if you like (I believe it is misguided) and they all have UNH emails (you can look these up on the website) and phone numbers 603 862-1234 is main line and you can talk to them directly. They have a job to do but I believe all three coaches will listen to you if you have great prospects that you feel are a good fit for UNH. It seems many posters are recruiting geniuses and our team could use your talents. Please send the names along to the coaches (I am quite sure they know who all of the players are but most of these star players are committing to the top 8-10 schools as they do every year) and please have these star players contact the UNH hockey office about their interest if they have not been contacted by UNH. It is my humble opinion that most do not have any real inside knowledge about any players that you cannot get off the internet.

I wanted to take the summer off from this site but so many are clueless about the talents of Mike Souza, you jokers sucked me in. Mike Souza is an outstanding recruiter and players and recruits like and trust him. UNH still has a little back log on incoming recruits and he is not going to pull a Boston and cut those loose who are not top two lines or defensive pairings.

If you have free time to belittle CHC on this site, please use your time better by helping out some local charities. Umile is likely leaving within the next few years and Mike Souza will be your head coach. He will very likely find another assistant who is a great recruiter like he is (Mike is earnest and cares about the players as much or more than UNH itself, unlike the competition in hockey east) who played and coached defense. I would rather play for someone like Mike as he does want to win and he will, but he really cares more about the players. The current players love him and he is there for them all day long. I urge you to stop bashing and start helping the coaching staff and the team with your incredible recruiting talents. Many of you are not UNH grads or season ticket holders so you can actually try to convince some of these student athletes to attend UNH. Maybe you know some of these players already. Please let the coaches know of these great players before posting on this site so they can be in the mix.

I have stated before that we have rarely won head to head battles with the Michigan, Minn, ND, NoDak, DU, BU, BC etc over the past 30 years and we can only hope that we will someday. Please ramp down the tone and have a little faith. We may not be great this coming year but we may be. If you want to write bad things about Coach Umile, he is used to it. I hope we do not start attacking players like last summer. Special thanks to Mike for all you do and special shout out to Hockey Ref for being our number one fan. You will see a turnaround over the next few years as we lost 12-13 one goal games this year and were only blown out in 5 or so games. Cleland will be the Captain in my opinion and there will probably be one senior A and one junior A. Take a deep breath to all and don't listen to the others Chuck as you know in your heart that Souza is and will be a great recruiter and closer. He is great with 15-25 year old kids and he will make you proud for sticking with him.

I will see many of you at the banquet and the rest of you in early October for the season opener. The schedule should be coming out in June.

Not going to the banquet, stopped that several years ago as I think it is more for the players and parents than for fans. But anyway, I agree with most of what you have to say here. Midway through the season I was critical of some posters who seemed to think that they could psychoanalyze Dick Umile and find the rationale for why he continued to be the head coach instead of resigning for the good of the program. Now many of these same people seem to have a handle on what type of recruiter Mike Souza is after he has served as an assistant for less than a year. If what others have said is true about Cavanagh, I take that to mean that he liked to do the dirty work and Souza was there to complete the follow up to insure that the kid came to UConn. If that it is the case, how the heck can you conflate from that that Souza is not a good recruiter? As for his other job, at Brown, the school has not had a competitive hockey program since the St. Denis days and NCAA playoff calibre since Bill Gilligan was roaming the ice 40 years ago. My limited interactions with Souza when he was a player at UNH and a bit after that lead me to believe that he has a head on his shoulders, is quite earnest in his approach, and probably has a game plan as to what he wants to do. However, I really think he is starting almost from scratch given that Cavanagh most likely did not give him free rein at UConn. That's a problem, but let's see where it goes before we determine that he is a failure. Terribly unfair to do otherwise.

As for the kerfluffle between Mike and Dan, I respect both for what they do. I spent 12 years as the editor and writer of BlueLines. My pal Andy and I started it because we were fanboys, oure and simple. For the most part the coaching staff, the players and even the AD's office appreciated what we did. However it became more of a chore as time went on and, with the advent of social media, the effort seemed to become unnecessary, so I stopped. But I can relate to what Mike does. It takes a lot of time and effort so I would hope others would appreciate what he does. Without his efforts we fans would have little idea of what led certain recruits to choose UNH.

That all being said, I also know that there can be difficulty when you write about recruits and players in a laudatory way then see other players (or even maybe the same ones) not perform to expectations. I learned to hold my tongue most of the type when these situations came up, only criticizing the team in the most cryptic ways since, after all, I was writing as the voice of the Friends of UNH Hockey. Mike is in a different situation since his blog has no affiliation with the Friends or the University. But I guess that if he wants to have continued access to some of his sources and to the players themselves, He can't go full bore on the players who fail or the coaches who recruited them. It's just not realistic to do so.

So what I will say is that Mike, Dan, Watcher and the rest all serve a purpose when commenting on UNH Hockey. As said, Mike provides us with the voice of the players, Dan, Watcher and others provide us insight on the intricacies of recruiting that I really don't have the inclination to delve into. My only request is that we all keep it civil going forward.

Cheers.
 
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Souza...let's see where it goes before we determine that he is a failure. Terribly unfair to do otherwise.
Get with the times, Greg. This is the snap chat generation. If we haven't already gotten a 2017 HEA playoff bye and qualified for the NCAAs then Souza is a bust. Time to cut ties and move on. ;)
 
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Sonar: As someone who has ridden the UNH hockey roller coaster for more years than myself, I respect and appreciate your comments.

One thing I would like to clarify. I do live 100 miles from UNH so I only park outside the fieldhouse when I attend games. Any information that I hear about young recruits that UNH may be pursuing does not come from the UNH hockey staff. There are former students and players scattered across North America that sometimes give me a heads up about who the coaches might be targeting. I don't think it's appropriate to share the specifics of these tips on the forum or my blog. Once a youngster commits to UNH, I do try to report on his background, plans, strengths, and areas for development.

Understood ......

....... and although the roller coaster is currently only receiving a new coat of paint .... I hope we can be around for the new engine and superstructure - and experience once again the exhilaration of a growing fan base.
 
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I don't believe that Souza is not a good recruiter. I would guess and for a fact, know that the players like and respect him
The buzz though is that kids don't want to go there. Too many rumors about hostility towards freshmen and not getting ice time.

Hd: That's a serious concern. One more item for Souza's to-do list.

If the current crop of scholarship freshmen - Ara Nazarian, 36 of 37 games, 7 goals including 1 PPG and 2 GWG, 7 assists; Marcus Vela, All 37 games, 7 goals including 2 PPG and 1 GWG, 9 assists; Matt Dawson 35 of 37 games, 4 goals including 2 PPG, 6 assists; - feel that way, it's a very serious concern.
 
Hd: That's a serious concern. One more item for Souza's to-do list.

If the current crop of scholarship freshmen - Ara Nazarian, 36 of 37 games, 7 goals including 1 PPG and 2 GWG, 7 assists; Marcus Vela, All 37 games, 7 goals including 2 PPG and 1 GWG, 9 assists; Matt Dawson 35 of 37 games, 4 goals including 2 PPG, 6 assists; - feel that way, it's a very serious concern.


It's a fact. Kids don't look at UNH as a premier program that they want to go to. They also look at the freshmen who hardly played in the past. True or not that's perception and it can be or it can not be reality. They used to get premier players, not in same world on recruiting side as BU, BC and are light years behind PC and Lowell as elite programs, they are barely top 6, thank God ND left.

Many end up there now, recruit list riddled with guys who explored all other options first or didn't have competing offers.

That's reality.


They finished season 3-14-2

U Mass Amherst new coach will have them ahead of them very soon,
 
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I don't believe that Souza is not a good recruiter. I would guess and for a fact, know that the players like and respect him
The buzz though is that kids don't want to go there. To many rumors about hostility towards freshmen and not getting ice time. I remember watching Agosta and the other D, kid drafted by Philly, seeing them pace around in suits talking to parents and advisors, all flustered. To many quirky things you hear kids repeating about UNH.
The program's sell themselves. Was Cavanaugh a better recruiter at BC? Nope, but most don't want to go to u conn
Much too strong a word. The phrase "pay no mind" might fit. My message to players who feel this way is: toughen up, you'll graduate as stronger individuals better positioned for life's challenges. I realize that doesn't play well today.

If the current crop of scholarship freshmen - Ara Nazarian, 36 of 37 games, 7 goals including 1 PPG and 2 GWG, 7 assists; Marcus Vela, All 37 games, 7 goals including 2 PPG and 1 GWG, 9 assists; Matt Dawson 35 of 37 games, 4 goals including 2 PPG, 6 assists; - feel that way, it's a very serious concern.
Hostility, etc. is not to be confused with playing time.
 
Much too strong a word. The phrase "pay no mind" might fit. My message to players who feel this way is: toughen up, you'll graduate as stronger individuals better positioned for life's challenges. I realize that doesn't play well today.

Hostility, etc. is not to be confused with playing time.

You are right. Hostility is too strong a word for the freshman players. That word should be reserved for the season ticket holders....
 
Hd: That's a serious concern. One more item for Souza's to-do list.

If the current crop of scholarship freshmen - Ara Nazarian, 36 of 37 games, 7 goals including 1 PPG and 2 GWG, 7 assists; Marcus Vela, All 37 games, 7 goals including 2 PPG and 1 GWG, 9 assists; Matt Dawson 35 of 37 games, 4 goals including 2 PPG, 6 assists; - feel that way, it's a very serious concern.

These three freshmen should have no complaints, as they each got lots of ice time in nearly every game, and after the first 10-12 games at the beginning of the season they got regular shifts on the PP, which was a bright spot this season overall as a team, thanks to the first line. However, a little less ice time on the PP for the senior "checking" line in those first 10-12 games might have yielded a few more points in those 1-goal losses and ties.

And, we thought that the Jumbotron would solve all problems. Sigh.
 
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When the team finished 3-14-2 and knocked out in first rd by Merrimack, a borderline D3,program, is a joke. Great some logged minutes on pp but logging minutes doesn't mean success and doesn't mean they will all of a sudden get better each year. 3-14-2 days it all
 
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When the team finished 3-14-2 and knocked out in first rd by Merrimack, a borderline D3,program, is a joke. Great some logged minutes on pp but logging minutes doesn't mean success and doesn't mean they will all of a sudden get better each year. 3-14-2 days it all

As if we didn't know that haha...I think some of the 'disgruntlement" by a particular player you mentioned in an earlier post about this was the fact that he (and another UNH D man who eventually had a fantastic UNH career) did indeed, ride the pine their Frosh year. Why? I do believe they had decent talent ahead of them..but that's a little bit before my tenure as a fan. Still, as Mike said...if it's an issue, it needs addressing. Agree with you Snively; this years Frosh had ice time. Have some of those players with obvious talent been mismanaged? That's up to you pros who judge it better than I ...we'll see this season. Player development is everything and the only way you get it is to earn (and receive?) the ice time...'tron or no 'tron :p
 
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I don't believe that Souza is not a good recruiter. I would guess and for a fact, know that the players like and respect him
The buzz though is that kids don't want to go there. To many rumors about hostility towards freshmen and not getting ice time. I remember watching Agosta and the other D, kid drafted by Philly, seeing them pace around in suits talking to parents and advisors, all flustered. To many quirky things you hear kids repeating about UNH.
The program's sell themselves. Was Cavanaugh a better recruiter at BC? Nope, but most don't want to go to u conn

I take any comments like this with a grain of salt. Recruiting is a very competitive business and I have heard comments like this many times from people with a hidden agendas over the years. My oldest son played for a coach who was an All American back in the day with a former and current rival of UNH. Fast forward to 1996 and I'm having a conversation at a game with the coach's father whose grandson was on the team with my son. The Grandfather is telling me that another grandson of his who commIted to Michigan was also recruited by UNH. He went on to say that the grandson didn't choose UNH because the word on the street was that Umile was not perceived as a player's coach. He had a hidden agenda though stemming back to the days his sons played against UNH and there was some bad blood in those games.

I don't know what your biases are Hoky but I seem to recall some very empassioned posts from you about Mike Vecchione who ended up at Union and was also recruited by UNH.

I do enjoy your posts though!
 
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2015-162016-172017-182018-192019-20
Dan CorrealeLiam BlackburnLiam BlackburnLiam BlackburnLiam Blackburn
Max GaudreaultBVRBVRBVRBVR
Collin McDonaldPatrick GrassoPatrick GrassoPatrick GrassoPatrick Grasso
Kyle SmithJustin FregonaJustin FregonaJustin FregonaJustin Fregona
Jamie HillJamie HillEric MacAdamsEric MacAdamsEric MacAdams
T.KelleherT.KelleherJ.CipolloneJ.CipolloneJ.Cipollone
C.BourqueJoe SaccoJoe SaccoJoe SaccoJoe Sacco
Andrew PoturalskiTBDTBDTBDTBD
Warren FoegeleCharlie KelleherCharlie KelleherCharlie KelleherCharlie Kelleher
Shane EisermanShane EisermanShane EisermanAngus CrookshankAngus Crookshank
M.McNicholasM.McNicholasM.McNicholasJason O'NeillJason O'Neill
J.SalvaggioJ.SalvaggioJ.SalvaggioEric EspositoEric Esposito
Marcus VelaMarcus VelaMarcus VelaMarcus VelaTBD
A. NazarianA. NazarianA. NazarianA. NazarianTBD
Chris MillerChris MillerChris MillerChris MillerTBD
J. KalinowskiTBDTBDA. O'NeilA. O'Neill
Harry QuastAnthony WyseAnthony WyseAnthony WyseAnthony Wyse
Matias ClelandMatias ClelandTBDTBDTBD
Dylan MallerDylan MallerLiam DarcyLiam DarcyLiam Darcy
John FurgeleTBDTBDTBDTBD
Cam MarksCam MarksCam MarksTBDTBD
Rich BoydRich BoydRich BoydTBDTBD
Dylan ChanterDylan ChanterDylan ChanterCorson GreenCorson Green
Matt DawsonMatt DawsonMatt DawsonMatt DawsonLucas Bahn
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2015-162016-172017-182018-192019-20
Dan CorrealeLiam BlackburnLiam BlackburnLiam BlackburnLiam Blackburn
Max GaudreaultBVRBVRBVRBVR
Collin McDonaldPatrick GrassoPatrick GrassoPatrick GrassoPatrick Grasso
Kyle SmithJustin FregonaJustin FregonaJustin FregonaJustin Fregona
Jamie HillJamie HillEric MacAdamsEric MacAdamsEric MacAdams
T.KelleherT.KelleherJ.CipolloneJ.CipolloneJ.Cipollone
C.BourqueJoe SaccoJoe SaccoJoe SaccoJoe Sacco
Andrew PoturalskiTBDTBDTBDTBD
Warren FoegeleCharlie KelleherCharlie KelleherCharlie KelleherCharlie Kelleher
Shane EisermanShane EisermanShane EisermanAngus CrookshankAngus Crookshank
M.McNicholasM.McNicholasM.McNicholasJason O'NeillJason O'Neill
J.SalvaggioJ.SalvaggioJ.SalvaggioEric EspositoEric Esposito
Marcus VelaMarcus VelaMarcus VelaMarcus VelaTBD
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Cam MarksCam MarksCam MarksTBDTBD
Rich BoydRich BoydRich BoydTBDTBD
Dylan ChanterDylan ChanterDylan ChanterCorson GreenCorson Green
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So if I'm reading this correctly, there are two holes to fill for the upcoming season. Will they be filled?

Of the crop coming in for the upcoming season who should we expect to see playing a regular shift? Who's hot and who's not? Are there any NHL picks in this group?

If you know please enlighten us? If not well I guess I'LL have to dig deeper and report back. To me these are just names on a list. It tells me nothing about whether this crop is good or not so good or just plain pedestrian!
 
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So if I'm reading this correctly, there are two holes to fill for the upcoming season. Will they be filled?

Of the crop coming in for the upcoming season who should we expect to see playing a regular shift? Who's hot and who's not? Are there any NHL picks in this group?

If you know please enlighten us? If not well I guess I'LL have to dig deeper and report back. To me these are just names on a list. It tells me nothing about whether this crop is good or not so good or just plain pedestrian!

Have you not been reading this thread the past few months, e.cat? :rolleyes:
 
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