UNH 2025 Offseason: Where in the World is MS7?

[norbert]

... so it's time to dredge back up the "NH Beanpot" concept, Snives!! Lots of free time to banter about the pros and cons, but I've reached out to Chris Duffy, and one of my old travel soccer colleagues who currently works with Mayor Ruais, and *maybe* we can get some traction with folks who have a megaphone and power to make something like this a reality?? There has never been a better time than right now to try to get the ball rolling in a forward direction ... who's with me?!?!?

I love you Chuck but I did not read this much in four years at WSBE,.....

 

[Dan]

He has not played through two games, but Luis Lindner is on Austria's World Championship roster.

Austria - Roster, News, Stats & more

Austria - WC - hockey team page with roster, stats, transactions at eliteprospects.com

www.eliteprospects.com

Also looks like he's signed a deal to play with Linz in the ICE Hockey League next season. The ICEHL is mostly an Austrian league, with a handful of teams in neighboring countries, including Italy. Patrick Grasso was the leading scorer for Innsbruck this season...

Marty Lavins has appeared in two games for Team Latvia. Including one against Sidney Crosby and Canada…

 

[walrus]

Ruth White won the New England 5000 and set a new UNH record doing it. I would assume this qualifies her for Nationals?

 

[Chuck Murray]

He has not played through two games, but Luis Lindner is on Austria's World Championship roster.

Austria - Roster, News, Stats & more

Austria - WC - hockey team page with roster, stats, transactions at eliteprospects.com

www.eliteprospects.com

Also looks like he's signed a deal to play with Linz in the ICE Hockey League next season. The ICEHL is mostly an Austrian league, with a handful of teams in neighboring countries, including Italy. Patrick Grasso was the leading scorer for Innsbruck this season...

I'm loosely following Austria due to DRW rookie Marco Kasper (19G) being one of their top players. Hopefully Lindner will get some ice before they're out.

 

[2013hockeyfan]

... so it's time to dredge back up the "NH Beanpot" concept, Snives!! Lots of free time to banter about the pros and cons, but I've reached out to Chris Duffy, and one of my old travel soccer colleagues who currently works with Mayor Ruais, and *maybe* we can get some traction with folks who have a megaphone and power to make something like this a reality?? There has never been a better time than right now to try to get the ball rolling in a forward direction ... who's with me?!?!?

NH Beanpot would be....UNH, Dartmouth, St. As, SNHU?

I think another idea that's been thrown around for a "Public Beanpot" of sorts would be great. UNH, UVM, UMaine, UMass at Verizon Center.

 

[TheGrouchyCat]

NH Beanpot would be....UNH, Dartmouth, St. As, SNHU?

I think another idea that's been thrown around for a "Public Beanpot" of sorts would be great. UNH, UVM, UMaine, UMass at Verizon Center.

I'd rather UNH focus on the issues it has on hand rather than waste time, energy and budget on a tournament whose outcome is nothing more than a a glorified participation trophy.

The risk of UNH's reputation going lower than it's current status as a perennial Hockey East cellar dweller by playing in this proposed tournament is acute. The program is a borderline laughingstock as it is, let's not not put the final nail in a once proud program by losing to St. A's or SNHU.

 

[2013hockeyfan]

I'd rather UNH focus on the issues it has on hand rather than waste time, energy and budget on a tournament whose outcome is nothing more than a a glorified participation trophy.

The risk of UNH's reputation going lower than it's current status as a perennial Hockey East cellar dweller by playing in this proposed tournament is acute. The program is a borderline laughingstock as it is, let's not not put the final nail in a once proud program by losing to St. A's or SNHU.

I agree that UNH shouldn't focus their energy on this, but we can.

 

[Snively65]

I'd rather UNH focus on the issues it has on hand rather than waste time, energy and budget on a tournament whose outcome is nothing more than a a glorified participation trophy.

The risk of UNH's reputation going lower than it's current status as a perennial Hockey East cellar dweller by playing in this proposed tournament is acute. The program is a borderline laughingstock as it is, let's not not put the final nail in a once proud program by losing to St. A's or SNHU.

If we substitute UVM, Maine, and UMass, I am in favor (the reason that I suggested Granite Beanput instead of NH Beanpot). I think that it would be untenable to mix Div 1 and Div 3 teams.

 

[TheGrouchyCat]

If we substitute UVM, Maine, and UMass, I am in favor (the reason that I suggested Granite Beanput instead of NH Beanpot). I think that it would be untenable to mix Div 1 and Div 3 teams.

There are only two tournaments that matter:

Hockey East
NCAAs

Everything else is a distraction.

 

[2013hockeyfan]

Brendan Fitzgerald with an invite San Jose development camp per Mark Divver

 

[Snively65]

There are only two tournaments that matter:

Hockey East
NCAAs

Everything else is a distraction.

I disagree. There are four-game, Div 1 tournaments throughout the regular season. We just do not get invited to them any longer. Here is an opportunity for UHN to initiate an annual Granite Beanpot tournament against three other in-conference teams that we would be playing anyway, generate some interest in UHN hockey in the middle part of the state, and restore post-high school hockey at an underused arena that was once vibrant with semi-pro teams in residence.

 

[Snively65]

Brendan Fitzgerald with an invite San Jose development camp per Mark Divver

Having a hard time wrapping my head around this one. And equally difficult for me to accept that BF will be our most experienced blue liner this coming season. Thinking theme music from the TV show Twilight Zone.

 

[TheGrouchyCat]

I disagree. There are four-game, Div 1 tournaments throughout the regular season. We just do not get invited to them any longer. Here is an opportunity for UHN to initiate an annual Granite Beanpot tournament against three other in-conference teams that we would be playing anyway, generate some interest in UHN hockey in the middle part of the state, and restore post-high school hockey at an underused arena that was once vibrant with semi-pro teams in residence.

There are some great tournaments nationally, without a doubt.

While I agree witj you in the vacuum of theory, as long as UNH nickles and dimes its program and cries poor at every opportunity, any and all budget should be directed towards the resurrection of this moribund team. Anything else is merely a distraction to divert attention from the questionable decisions coming out of the field house and a coach who doesn't have what it takes.

The emporer has no clothes and cheering crowd knows it.

 

[Chuck Murray]

Having a hard time wrapping my head around this one. And equally difficult for me to accept that BF will be our most experienced blue liner this coming season. Thinking theme music from the TV show Twilight Zone.

It's only a pro development camp, Snives. He's an undrafted 22 year old, so what probably happened is one of their scouts saw him in some random game, saw something he liked, maybe someone else confirmed it in a second look, and so the Sharks' head of scouting extended him an invite. Get him in, take a closer look, run the ruler over him, so to speak, and see how it plays out. No guarantees, but definitely an opportunity for a kid who wasn't drafted, and probably not highly sought after coming out of juniors from Governors Academy. Comes from a hockey family, and turns out his dad is Tom Fitzgerald, a 17 year NHL vet and original captain of the Nashville Preds, who is currently the GM of the New Jersey Devils. Has two brothers who went to BC too, with Casey reaching the NHL before falling back to the AHL, and Ryan, who never got past the minors, and looks to have retired after last season. So there are strong bloodlines there, and with Dad a late-blooming player, and now a prominent front office guy, that all might be in play here, too. Think BvR, with WAY better connections.

Gotta think Guiliano had something to do with recruiting him ... penny for dad Tom's thoughts on MS7 and his son's development these last two seasons ...

 

[Chuck Murray]

There are only two tournaments that matter:

Hockey East
NCAAs

Everything else is a distraction.

You think they're saying the same things down at BU, BC, Harvard and Northeastern, Grouch?!?

If we're approaching the concept as a short-term concept - and I'll address that in responding to your earlier post on the topic - yeah, it's nothing more than a resurrected Riverstone with an additional round and 2 more teams built in. But think about all the additional publicity the Boston schools have gotten from their two Monday nights in February over the last 75 years ... how many NH kids have been lured away by the bright lights of the Beanpot ... think, when are those schools' most visible games played?!? HINT: It's not some Friday/Saturday night NESN special in January, in their home rinks. Heck, maybe not even those HEA Tourney games in mid-March (albeit more important year-to-year). "The Beanpot" is now appointment viewing, and a hockey family tradition.

The long term impact of a similar event in NH is something that isn't (and arguably shouldn't) even be on Mike Souza's radar, he'll be long gone well before any long-term benefit would inure to his program. Someone would have to be approaching this as a legacy thing, and that's always gotta be the toughest bit of the sell ... but if you can get buy-in from the two key schools (UNH and Dartmouth), then you work on the other moving pieces. And someday, maybe the kids who have left NH to go play in Boston because of the Beanpot, now have one less reason to leave the state to pursue their hockey careers?

Down in Connecticut, the "Connecticut Ice" tourney will be starting Year 6 next season. Sure, they already have the four D-1 teams, which makes it easier to get started. But three of the four teams have already won the thing, and you know at some point Yale will make it all four. My pal Luce won the 5th edition last winter, boosting his barren trophy case. But those guys all have to be thinking long-term, and given Luce's BC ties he's been trading on like forever, I'm sure he's a big booster of the concept (note, this may be as close as Luce ever gets to a compliment from yours truly). That event gets to showcase college hockey in southern New England in a very positive way. A revamped Riverstone at neutral site Manchester could work the same for northern New England?

 

[Chuck Murray]

I'd rather UNH focus on the issues it has on hand rather than waste time, energy and budget on a tournament whose outcome is nothing more than a a glorified participation trophy.

The risk of UNH's reputation going lower than it's current status as a perennial Hockey East cellar dweller by playing in this proposed tournament is acute. The program is a borderline laughingstock as it is, let's not not put the final nail in a once proud program by losing to St. A's or SNHU.

Bookmarked for tomorrow LOL