UNH 2025 Offseason: Where in the World is MS7?

[TheGrouchyCat]

Grouchy: What's wrong with leaving a state? Moving to NH is a good option if you want to leave cheap. Of course you get what you pay for.

Let's do a root cause analysis....hmmm

Why are traditionally red states being inundated with blue state migrants escaping the punishing taxes and oppressive regulations dominating certain left leaning bastions?

Why is it that CA, WA, OR, IL, MA, MN CT, NY are seeing net population outflows to states like NH, TX, ND, SD, NC, SC?

Quality of life, less government intrusion, lower cost of living, etc.

Sooner or later, you run out of other people's money to spend.

 

[walrus]

Just a link to what Ruth White has already done at UNH https://unhwildcats.com/news/2025/4...america-east-track-athlete-rookie-of-the-week

 

[JB]

I also have the biggest… ego.

Well you know what they say about guys with really big feet....


Really big shoes



That joke is better in person, my feet are freaking skis

 

[Potluck]

Let's do a root cause analysis....hmmm

Why are traditionally red states being inundated with blue state migrants escaping the punishing taxes and oppressive regulations dominating certain left leaning bastions?

Why is it that CA, WA, OR, IL, MA, MN CT, NY are seeing net population outflows to states like NH, TX, ND, SD, NC, SC?

Quality of life, less government intrusion, lower cost of living, etc.

Sooner or later, you run out of other people's money to spend.

Massachusetts, California, NY. Let's remove those three states from the US. Good bye to all high technology. Goodbye to our finest engineering and graduate schools. Good bye to the world center of finance. Good bye to the center of medicine. Good bye progress. Do you really want to do the red state blue state thing?

Hell, include all the blue state and see what's left.

 

[TheGrouchyCat]

Massachusetts, California, NY. Let's remove those three states from the US. Good bye to all high technology. Goodbye to our finest engineering and graduate schools. Good bye to the world center of finance. Good bye to the center of medicine. Good bye progress. Do you really want to do the red state blue state thing?

That's why companies are migrating to Texas, Missouri, South Dakota, North and South Carolina to take advantage of tax incentives, fewer regulations and a higher quality of life for employees?

This happened in Asia years ago. Hong Kong was the financial center of Asia. Now it's Singapore. Industries are migrating in the United States as well. The most impressive medical research facility isn't in Boston or SFO, it's the Stowers Institute in Kansas City. I couldn't believe what I saw there. With the cost of drug and device development skyrocketing to $2billion+ per approved drug, companies which are dependent on investment are going to lower cost locales. We live in a mobile world and things change and companies move. Hell, Detroit was once the richest city in the country with its Auto Manufacturing, but with manufacturing facilities in MI, AL, KY, TN, TX, IN, OH that wealth has been dispersed. We all know what a hellscape Detroit has been the last two decades.

Let's eliminate the engineering schools in CA and MA, and you still have Purdue (IN), GA Tech, VA Tech, Carnegie Mellon, Michigan to name a few, all world class engineering institutions which focus on industry application than pure research. Or, Colorado and South Dakota School of Mines, industry specific engineering only schools that have amongst the highest starting salaries and most coveted students in the United States?

Many of the CA and MA schools are a like a Maserati. Great brand name, but when you look under the hood and overall quality, it's junk. As many of my staff have shared to me, all people who attended Ivy League Institutions (and CalTech, CalPoly, Standford,Duke, etc), to a person they said the hardest part of those schools is getting accepted. Once you're in, you're guaranteed a 4.0 with minimal effort. Also, I'll save you the $400k in tuition and share the number one lesson they learned at these schools: "You have a responsibility to take care of your classmates and fellow alumni upon graduation."

These inflated white collar salaries are beginning to disappear. Software Engineering, IT, Cyber Security, Accounting, Finance, Legal and even certain specialties of doctors and nurse are getting replaced by AI. This is being discussed by the C Suites at Meta, Amazon, Microsoft, Oracle, etc how in the next ten years upwards of 80% of jobs in the industries could be replaced. You could be next. I can only imagine how you'll deal with having to associate with the hoi polloi.

If CT is the land of Milk and Honey, why are people moving out? Never addressed that one...

 

[Sparkee]

Just a link to what Ruth White has already done at UNH https://unhwildcats.com/news/2025/4...america-east-track-athlete-rookie-of-the-week

I guess UMaine doesn’t offer cross country?

 

[HockeyRef]

We need something to distract us.

We're sitting like Baby in the corner watching everyone else boogie at the Big Dance.

When AREN'T we sitting in the corner? By now, you'd think we would just live vicariously through everyone else...pretty much what I do...too painful to do anything but! Some of my fan friends get giddy just thinking about the next STH 'barbeque'...haha if that's all we have to look forward to...

 

[TheGrouchyCat]

When AREN'T we sitting in the corner? By now, you'd think we would just live vicariously through everyone else...pretty much what I do...too painful to do anything but! Some of my fan friends get giddy just thinking about the next STH 'barbeque'...haha if that's all we have to look forward to...

I am waiting with bated breath for the eloquent words of MS7 and his beloved and uncanny impression of the dearly departed Mumbles Menino.

It will only last 99 seconds in honor of his hockey peak in 1999, but it will satiate the masses until he's rolled out like a wax figurine for the 2026 BBQ.

 

[Potluck]

That's why companies are migrating to Texas, Missouri, South Dakota, North and South Carolina to take advantage of tax incentives, fewer regulations and a higher quality of life for employees?

This happened in Asia years ago. Hong Kong was the financial center of Asia. Now it's Singapore. Industries are migrating in the United States as well. The most impressive medical research facility isn't in Boston or SFO, it's the Stowers Institute in Kansas City. I couldn't believe what I saw there. With the cost of drug and device development skyrocketing to $2billion+ per approved drug, companies which are dependent on investment are going to lower cost locales. We live in a mobile world and things change and companies move. Hell, Detroit was once the richest city in the country with its Auto Manufacturing, but with manufacturing facilities in MI, AL, KY, TN, TX, IN, OH that wealth has been dispersed. We all know what a hellscape Detroit has been the last two decades.

Let's eliminate the engineering schools in CA and MA, and you still have Purdue (IN), GA Tech, VA Tech, Carnegie Mellon, Michigan to name a few, all world class engineering institutions which focus on industry application than pure research. Or, Colorado and South Dakota School of Mines, industry specific engineering only schools that have amongst the highest starting salaries and most coveted students in the United States?

Many of the CA and MA schools are a like a Maserati. Great brand name, but when you look under the hood and overall quality, it's junk. As many of my staff have shared to me, all people who attended Ivy League Institutions (and CalTech, CalPoly, Standford,Duke, etc), to a person they said the hardest part of those schools is getting accepted. Once you're in, you're guaranteed a 4.0 with minimal effort. Also, I'll save you the $400k in tuition and share the number one lesson they learned at these schools: "You have a responsibility to take care of your classmates and fellow alumni upon graduation."

These inflated white collar salaries are beginning to disappear. Software Engineering, IT, Cyber Security, Accounting, Finance, Legal and even certain specialties of doctors and nurse are getting replaced by AI. This is being discussed by the C Suites at Meta, Amazon, Microsoft, Oracle, etc how in the next ten years upwards of 80% of jobs in the industries could be replaced. You could be next. I can only imagine how you'll deal with having to associated the hoi polloi.

If CT is the land of Milk and Honey, why are people moving out? Never addressed that one...

A few of my HS friends and two of my in laws went to the Ivys. Getting in is the toughest part? Well ok. The reason they found much of it easy is because they were borderline geniuses. Rest assured, you and I would have struggled mightily with their curriculum. They are more intelligent people, full stop. Knocking the IVYs is the stuff of mediocre people engaged in rationalization. Up there with the A students work for the C students nonsense.

So you're buying the great migration to Florida, North Dakota, South Carolina etc..... Don't. You need to read more on the subject. Summer in Florida is much worse than winter in Manattan or LA or Chicago or Boston. It's odd how real estate in metro boston, LA, Chicago, Philly and NY keeps heading for the moon with the exodus of talent.

The red states don't have the infrastructure to maintain most top shelf businesses. Graduates of the elite B schools are not heading the ND or S Carolina or any real red state other than maybe the blue cities of Texas and perhaps (it's a reach) Miami. The remaining red states are preposterous and do nothing that improves civilization. They just exist. Nothing wrong with that but they likely wouldn't even exist with any comfort if it wasn't for the technology of progress from the blue states.

You're engaged in wishful thinking and absurd rationalization. BTW, you are stuck on the tuition thing. The best schools have large endowments. It's something most people from NH couldn't possibly understand so I'll skip it. The most talented kids have very few tuition concerns. A talented kid is light years better off in the present financially and waaaaaaaay better off in the future at the Ivys or mini IVYs and elite engineering than the state schools.

 

[JB]

Massachusetts, California, NY. Let's remove those three states from the US. Good bye to all high technology. Goodbye to our finest engineering and graduate schools. Good bye to the world center of finance. Good bye to the center of medicine. Good bye progress. Do you really want to do the red state blue state thing?

Hell, include all the blue state and see what's left.

Wait a minute you are conflating issues. High taxes in Mass, California and New York are not a direct line to the finest engineering and graduate schools. Those school are almost all private not public. MIT gets about 2% of its funding from State and Local grants to do research. Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, Northwestern, U Chicago, etc. these private schools all get limited funding if any from the State. Right now Harvard is actually concerned about a potential endowment tax in Mass taking money from them.

Now I am not a RED state BLUE state guy. If you dislike the policies of your state for whatever reason you can move to another. At some point you do need to decide what you are going to accept. As I keep noting (and Potluck keeps ignoring) I would and do support more money from the state to the University. However, I am cognizant of the reality of the world, state schools get donations for what Souza keeps whining about and those donations flow much easier with winning - and yes this includes both UML and UMA.

I will note I find it interesting the the RED states tend to complain the most about federal government spending when there are only 11 that pay in more than they get back (balance of payments): CA, CO, CT, Il, MA, MN, NH, NJ, NY, UT and WA and only one of those is RED. NOTE: per capita MA, NJ, WA, NH net pay in the most in that order. NOTE 2: this is all 2022 data which is the most recent that is easy to find. https://rockinst.org/issue-areas/fiscal-analysis/balance-of-payments-portal/

 

[FDNY99]

OK smarta$$, your turn. Convince us why Luce has earned the "kid gloves treatment" he's gotten for winning absolutely nothing. 3, 2, 1 ... go!!

I don’t need to convince you of anything on your pal Luce Cavanaugh…it’s just comical to watch him living rent free in your head…instead of Cavanaugh you should probably be worried about NIL and revenue sharing because if your head coach can’t win enough games or shake enough booster’s hands to get the Whitt upgrade project done there is NO WAY he’s raising NIL money…which means his recruiting which didn’t seem could get much worse will Most likely drop off a Cliff. BUT what you really should pay attention to is that when the fire whistle goes off in your hometown of Effingwoods make sure you are nearby in case Smitty has a asthma attack and needs help with his BAC device to start his truck so he can do his duty and take in the run…IFYKYK

 

[JB]

You're engaged in wishful thinking and absurd rationalization. BTW, you are stuck on the tuition thing. The best schools have large endowments. It's something most people from NH couldn't possibly understand so I'll skip it. The most talented kids have very few tuition concerns. A talented kid is light years better off in the present financially and waaaaaaaay better off in the future at the Ivys or mini IVYs and elite engineering than the state schools.

Again you are very inaccurate. Harvard's endowment and gift does cover about 45% of the operating cost with about 75% of the endowment directed by donor (you know so a gift is used for something the donor wanted). The average student still pays about $45k per year after any financial aid, so lots of talented kids are paying lots of money every year.

 

[walrus]

I guess UMaine doesn’t offer cross country?

She was headed to Idaho ,Boise State maybe but the coach moved on so she stayed closer. I'm thinking she is going for Nursing? I'd guess she wanted out of Orono .

 

[TheGrouchyCat]

A few of my HS friends and two of my in laws went to the Ivys. Getting in is the toughest part? Well ok. The reason they found much of it easy is because they were borderline geniuses. Rest assured, you and I would have struggled mightily with their curriculum. They are more intelligent people, full stop. Knocking the IVYs is the stuff of mediocre people engaged in rationalization. Up there with the A students work for the C students nonsense.

So you're buying the great migration to Florida, North Dakota, South Carolina etc..... Don't. You need to read more on the subject. Summer in Florida is much worse than winter in Manattan or LA or Chicago or Boston. It's odd how real estate in metro boston, LA, Chicago, Philly and NY keeps heading for the moon with the exodus of talent.

The red states don't have the infrastructure to maintain most top shelf businesses. Graduates of the elite B schools are not heading the ND or S Carolina or any real red state other than maybe the blue cities of Texas and perhaps (it's a reach) Miami. The remaining red states are preposterous and do nothing that improves civilization. They just exist. Nothing wrong with that but they likely wouldn't even exist with any comfort if it wasn't for the technology of progress from the blue states.

You're engaged in wishful thinking and absurd rationalization. BTW, you are stuck on the tuition thing. The best schools have large endowments. It's something most people from NH couldn't possibly understand so I'll skip it. The most talented kids have very few tuition concerns. A talented kid is light years better off in the present financially and waaaaaaaay better off in the future at the Ivys or mini IVYs and elite engineering than the state schools.

As someone who was accepted to the best schools, prep, undergrad and graduate, I beg to disagree. I've actually lectured extensively at some of these institutions in addition to taking more than a few classes and it wasn't nearly as difficult as the reputations would suggest. And, businesses who traditionally have hired from such schools are starting to notice.

Another key lesson: There is a big difference between learning about something in the vacuum of theory compared to someone who has real world experience. Student and the companies who hire them know this. Many Ivy grads are hired to mitigate risk to the hiring executive with the understanding that you don't get fired by hiring someone from Harvard. It happens all the time.

My parents were a teacher and nurse respectively and despite being lower middle to middle class, scholarships and endowments 35+ years ago didn't cover tuition and fees like they do today? Hell, when I was accepted to Phillips Exeter in the 80s, the tuition was almost more than 1.5 what my dad made a year. Same situation for university. Could I have taken 200k (probably $400k today) worth of loans? Sure. It wasn't the right financial move as it was important for me to come out debt free. I look at my friends that did go to the Ivies and in their 50s, they still own hundreds of thousands of dollars. They often tell me, I made the right decision.

Graduates of the elite B Schools are moving to non-traditional geographies. I know because I'm actually hiring them for locations that aren't SFO, NY or Chicago. Yes, the Wall Street boys and McKinsey zealots will move to the big cities, but based on hiring trends those jobs are disappearing at a frightening clip because, you guessed it, AI is able to do the monkey work expected for associates in year 1-5 of the careers.

The world is changing whether you like it or not. This includes many industries that were once dominated by the Northeast but increasingly, financial, accounting, consulting companies are moving operations from NY and NJ to Boca Raton and other Climes. Major engineering companies are moving to the Dakotas, Idaho and Texas, not to mention IN and OH. One of the biggest research facilities in the world supporting DARPA isn't in on either coast, but rural TN.

I could go on and on

 

[Potluck]

As someone who was accepted to the best schools, prep, undergrad and graduate, I beg to disagree. I've actually lectured extensively at some of these institutions in addition to taking more than a few classes and it wasn't nearly as difficult as the reputations would suggest. And, businesses who traditionally have hired from such schools are starting to notice.

Another key lesson: There is a big difference between learning about something in the vacuum of theory compared to someone who has real world experience. Student and the companies who hire them know this. Many Ivy grads are hired to mitigate risk to the hiring executive with the understanding that you don't get fired by hiring someone from Harvard. It happens all the time.

My parents were a teacher and nurse respectively and despite being lower middle to middle class, scholarships and endowments 35+ years ago didn't cover tuition and fees like they do today? Hell, when I was accepted to Phillips Exeter in the 80s, the tuition was almost more than 1.5 what my dad made a year. Same situation for university. Could I have taken 200k (probably $400k today) worth of loans? Sure. It wasn't the right financial move as it was important for me to come out debt free. I look at my friends that did go to the Ivies and in their 50s, they still own hundreds of thousands of dollars. They often tell me, I made the right decision.

Graduates of the elite B Schools are moving to non-traditional geographies. I know because I'm actually hiring them for locations that aren't SFO, NY or Chicago. Yes, the Wall Street boys and McKinsey zealots will move to the big cities, but based on hiring trends those jobs are disappearing at a frightening clip because, you guessed it, AI is able to do the monkey work expected for associates in year 1-5 of the careers.

The world is changing whether you like it or not. This includes many industries that were once dominated by the Northeast but increasingly, financial, accounting, consulting companies are moving operations from NY and NJ to Boca Raton and other Climes. Major engineering companies are moving to the Dakotas, Idaho and Texas, not to mention IN and OH. One of the biggest research facilities in the world supporting DARPA isn't in on either coast, but rural TN.

I could go on and on

Nonsense. You don’t know a single person in their 50s that is in debt hundreds of thousands of dollars from their education. Nobody.

I’m familiar with Philips. Tuition in the 80s was not 1.5 times a teachers salary. Another load of BS.

Oh, and since you’re in your 50s, tuitions from the 80s (4 years) at elite private totaled $100k. Those are my years. You’re quoting $200k.

You’re actually as nutty as Buford and Elwood. Let’s call you Walter Mitty. I’ll call you Mr Mitty to be polite.

 

[TheGrouchyCat]

Nonsense. You don’t know a single person in their 50s that is in debt hundreds of thousands of dollars from their education. Nobody.

I’m familiar with Philips. Tuition in the 80s was not 1.5 times a teachers salary. Another load of BS.

Oh, and since you’re in your 50s, tuitions from the 80s (4 years) at elite private totaled $100k. Those are my years. You’re quoting $200k.

You’re actually as nutty as Buford and Elwood. Let’s call you Walter Mitty. I’ll call you Mr Mitty to be polite.

Have a good night, Potstirrer.

You obviously don't associate with many physicans, PhDs and DBAs who attended prep school, Ivy undergrad and grad.

Nor, do you understand the concept of compund interest which is something most people learn by the 6th grade.

 

[Scott]

Nonsense. You don’t know a single person in their 50s that is in debt hundreds of thousands of dollars from their education. Nobody.

I’m familiar with Philips. Tuition in the 80s was not 1.5 times a teachers salary. Another load of BS.

Oh, and since you’re in your 50s, tuitions from the 80s (4 years) at elite private totaled $100k. Those are my years. You’re quoting $200k.

You’re actually as nutty as Buford and Elwood. Let’s call you Walter Mitty. I’ll call you Mr Mitty to be polite.

You sure enjoy assigning silly monikers to people, eh Potsie McNoob? How about we just call you Hemorrhoid?

 

[Darius]

For those that couldn’t, didn't read between the lines of my recent posts please take this elsewhere, the cafe or whatever. UNH funding is always a concern and is a hot topic right now. We are going to be posting about it for the next few months, but seriously…

FWIW I’ve lived 40/60 MA/NH. Both have plusses and minuses and benefit from being neighbors. Also, prestige aside university is largely what each student makes of it.

Edit: I did just lol. “Walter Mitty”. Sorry

 

[acs64]

Just a link to what Ruth White has already done at UNH https://unhwildcats.com/news/2025/4...america-east-track-athlete-rookie-of-the-week

Pretty cool Wally, but you do realize you are interrupting the UHN shitfest here Pretty soon they'll all look down and realize their dicks really aren't that big

 

[Sparkee]

Pretty cool Wally, but you do realize you are interrupting the UHN shitfest here Pretty soon they'll all look down and realize their dicks really aren't that big

They make excuses for everything. They will make up excuses for short dicks too.

“Oh, it’s because I’m freezing.”

“The lighting is bad in here, trust me.”

“It’s been like this since they spent the librarians money on the scoreboard.”