UNH 2024/2025 Goldberg Edition

[Dan]

Drugs are bad, Dan. Just say no.

Enjoy your willfully ignorant bubble if you wish. We both know you see it too.

Or is it Hagens'/Perreault's playmaking ability you doubt?

 

[TheGrouchyCat]

All the recruits are seeing is an absentee coach. Next year he will be working from home while the assistants run practice.

Wh

Exactly.

Plus-Minus is an imperfect stat, sure, but Conmy is a +2 (Cronin is a -4, Devlin is a -4, LeClerc is a -8 and Ring is a -9) all while leading the forwards in ice time (19:35), goals, points and ranking third in assists. For what its worth, College Hockey News' CHIP analytics ranking (think WAR) rates Conmy as the best player on the team at 40.5. Gagne is next six full points behind. The next forward is LeClerc 16.5 points behind...

Conmy may not be Jonathan Toews, but to answer the question, YES, it would be an absolute nightmare if he transferred anywhere, let alone BC. And ANYONE would love to have him.

He's the last player who deserves a finger pointed in his direction. And if we want to blame the 'best' players, there are several other candidates to discuss before we even get around to considering Conmy...

Some big let's play Colin MacDonald over Warren Foegele from the board this morning...

No one has singled out Conmy as the cause

 

[Jellsville USA]

Conmy is the best player, so he gets the target - deservedly or entirely undeservedly so. Oh well, we've seen it before. From Gildon to Poturalski and all the way back to JVR, Hemingway, Bekar and Nicklaus. Even Haydar himself at times his SR season...

I've seen criticism of Conmy's scoring all season, specifically during the team's losing stretch post Jan. 1. He's one goal shy of his 2023-24 total, and his PPG are up from a season ago. He has five goals since the new year...

So who is really coming up short? What's missing? Its not Harrison Blaisdell.

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LeClerc has just seven goals this season, which is right on pace with what he did last season - and remains down from his 13-goal freshman season. He's 15 goals worse in plus-minus. He needed to make a jump, at best he's stayed the same. He has just TWO goals since Jan. 1.

Devlin has also scored only seven goals in 26 games this season. He scored 13 in 28 games a year ago. That's one goal less every five games. He's had a ten point negative swing in his plus-minus. He has ZERO goals since Jan. 1 and, in fact, if you remove a six-game stretch from Nov. 22 to Dec. 28 he has ONE goal in the remaining 20 games he's played this season...

Huard has been a no-show on offense this season. After entering the season with 14 career goals and 57 career points, he's still looking for goal number one and has just seven assists. He has just two assists since Nov. 22. Of UNH's top-six defenseman, he is one of just two to be negative in plus-minus. Reid is -1 and Huard is a -8!

While several players have seen their production and development stall - where it was expected to advance - this season. Those are the three players who really should have taken big strides this season but have yet to do so. If UNH has a trick up their sleeve down the stretch, its those three that need to perform. If they'd simply produced at Conmy's 'disappointing rate' in the second half, your Wildcats are squarely in the NCAA Tournament...

Conmy is -7 in the last 10 games

 

[teez]

I'd imagine a lot of players a minus in the last 10 games. To my eyes, Conmy is the only true 'skill' player on the team.

 

[Darius]

Drugs are bad, Dan. Just say no.

“I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.”
― Hunter S. Thompson

 

[Jellsville USA]

I'd imagine a lot of players a minus in the last 10 games. To my eyes, Conmy is the only true 'skill' player on the team.

Thanks for making my point. The games that matter. UNH best player is Gagne. Watch the games.

 

[Dan]

No one has singled out Conmy as the cause

I think your post 'grossly' overstated his deficiencies and deserved the response.

Conmy is -7 in the last 10 games

Did you really read my last posts and think I wouldn't follow up on these numbers?

In the same span Devlin is -10, Ring is -11 and LeClerc is -12. Cronin is -6 and Lavins is a -3. Winters is even as he's barely played. Not a banner run for any of the top-six forwards, but Conmy faired equal to or much better than all the high ice-time forwards but Lavins. The irony is you only noticing his need for defensive improvement because of his success/expectation for production in the offensive end...

Furthermore, Conmy was a -6 in the two lopsided losses to BU which certainly skews the data (for all but Cronin - Cronin: 0, Lavins: -2, Devlin: -4, Ring: -5, LeClerc: -6) for anyone trying to make a point about his defensive play. Remove those games and you have the following over the remaining eight outings...

Conmy, -1
Lavins, -1
Cronin, -6
Devlin, -6
Ring, -6
LeClerc, -6

But due to two rough (team) efforts against BU you've decided we wouldn't miss the team's top-scorer, most talented player and one of its best +/- forwards if he transferred, and to BC of all places? Got it...

Your edict for enthusiasm and optimistic support died real fast.

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I called out three players in a previous post. There's also a fourth with an eye-popping lack of production. In his defense, he's been in and out of the line-up, but after scoring 10 goals last season Morgan Winters has just two (one an ENG) in 2024-25. He has not scored a goal since Nov. 15 against Northeastern (He's appeared in 11 games since) and - believe it or not - that is the ONLY game in which he's scored a goal this season...

 

[JB]

Dan - you need to stop letting facts get in the way of others opinions...

 

[TheGrouchyCat]

I think your post 'grossly' overstated his deficiencies and deserved the response.



Did you really read my last posts and think I wouldn't follow up on these numbers?

In the same span Devlin is -10, Ring is -11 and LeClerc is -12. Cronin is -6 and Lavins is a -3. Winters is even as he's barely played. Not a banner run for any of the top-six forwards, but Conmy faired equal to or much better than all the high ice-time forwards but Lavins. The irony is you only noticing his need for defensive improvement because of his success/expectation for production in the offensive end...

Furthermore, Conmy was a -6 in the two lopsided losses to BU which certainly skews the data (for all but Cronin - Cronin: 0, Lavins: -2, Devlin: -4, Ring: -5, LeClerc: -6) for anyone trying to make a point about his defensive play. Remove those games and you have the following over the remaining eight outings...

Conmy, -1
Lavins, -1
Cronin, -6
Devlin, -6
Ring, -6
LeClerc, -6

But due to two rough (team) efforts against BU you've decided we wouldn't miss the team's top-scorer, most talented player and one of its best +/- forwards if he transferred, and to BC of all places? Got it...

Your edict for enthusiasm and optimistic support died real fast.

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I called out three players in a previous post. There's also a fourth with an eye-popping lack of production. In his defense, he's been in and out of the line-up, but after scoring 10 goals last season Morgan Winters has just two (one an ENG) in 2024-25. He has not scored a goal since Nov. 15 against Northeastern (He's appeared in 11 games since) and - believe it or not - that is the ONLY game in which he's scored a goal this season...

What I said is that there is much room for improvement on the defensive side of the ice. I've been watching him for the last two years and call it like I see it.

 

[Jellsville USA]

Your edict for enthusiasm and optimistic support died real fast.

I remain very optimistic for a turnaround. I certainly believe they have the talent (including Conmy) who I thought at the beginning of the season was the best player on the ice. I think he has regressed a bit since mid-season. I have watched many goals this year where he was out of position in the defensive end and he gives up 1 on 0. Just giving my humble opinion of what I see. I do not see any organization to this team. I don't think they are getting enough from Souza. I loved him as a player, but he is disappointing as the coach.

 

[Potluck]

North Dakota has the best facilities in the country and it's having a below average season. Does the Ralph need upgrades to become competitive again?

You actually are suggesting UNH hockey compares in any way shape or form with North Dakota? There are likely more D1 hockey players in NH than North Dakota. North Dakotas facilities are ultra elite and have been for many decades relative to most D1 schools. UND has 6 nattys since 1980 and 16 final fours since 1980. Their only edge has been in facilities thanks for Papa Ralph and the Imperial Palace Casino in Vegas.

 

[Snively65]

Not that I think there is any chance for a buy out of MS7’s contract, would it be $240k or $480k for the two years remaining on his contract?

 

[TheGrouchyCat]

You actually are suggesting UNH hockey compares in any way shape or form with North Dakota? There are likely more D1 hockey players in NH than North Dakota. North Dakotas facilities are ultra elite and have been for many decades relative to most D1 schools. UND has 6 nattys since 1980 and 16 final fours since 1980. Their only edge has been in facilities thanks for Papa Ralph and the Imperial Palace Casino in Vegas.

No, the point is that ND has the best facilities but is still having a rather mediocre season.

Facilities don't guarantee wins.

There are no guarantees

 

[deltabravo62]

Not that I think there is any chance for a buy out of MS7’s contract, would it be $240k or $480k for the two years remaining on his contract?

If the contract is copy/paste from his last two (based on what I heard I assume it is) it’s 240k or 260k. The old contract read that they have to give a 30 day notice to terminate then pay out 12 months salary. Not sure if the 30 day notice is included in the 12 months or not.

 

[Sparkee]

Not that I think there is any chance for a buy out of MS7’s contract, would it be $240k or $480k for the two years remaining on his contract?

With UNH at 18th in pairwise, has he done bad enough to warrant firing? He seems to have a knack for riding just above the firing line.

 

[JB]

With UNH at 18th in pairwise, has he done bad enough to warrant firing? He seems to have a knack for riding just above the firing line.

Unfortunately, I think today he is safe because of that 18th in the pairwise. I just don't see a win left on the schedule.

2 @ Maine
H&H Umass
H&H BC
H&H Lowell

The reality is the University isn't going to buy him out so we are stuck with another 2 years of this mess. Unless some big donor comes along with $$$ for the facilities and the buy out.

 

[TheGrouchyCat]

Unfortunately, I think today he is safe because of that 18th in the pairwise. I just don't see a win left on the schedule.

2 @ Maine
H&H Umass
H&H BC
H&H Lowell

The reality is the University isn't going to buy him out so we are stuck with another 2 years of this mess. Unless some big donor comes along with $$$ for the facilities and the buy out.

Pairwise is one thing, but falling attendance, the amount of season ticket renewals and lack of progress on the fundraising front may be the REAL factors to initiate a buyout

 

[TheGrouchyCat]

Thanks for making my point. The games that matter. UNH best player is Gagne. Watch the games.

Will disagree with you on Gags. He is overwhelmed and gassed come the end of tje second period and his track record of taking cheap shots behind the play has finally caught up with him this season.

The most complete player, both ways, has been Lavins. As such, I fully expect him to enter the portal this spring.

 

[UNHHockey16]

Not that I think there is any chance for a buy out of MS7’s contract, would it be $240k or $480k for the two years remaining on his contract?

@Snively65 they have to pay him for 1 years' worth of his contract in order to fire him so as of this year it is $240,000 for his base pay. The other option is for cause for his conduct having a "significant negative effect on the goodwill of the public at large toward or confidence in the University, its Department of Athletics, or the UNH Men's Ice Hockey Program". That is taken directly from the contract that I have.

I don't know if the calling for him to get fired, calling for the AD to get fired, less butts in seats, season ticket holders not renewing, etc. count towards that or not. That is not something I can interpret. I would argue that it does but not my decision.

 

[TheGrouchyCat]

@Snively65 they have to pay him for 1 years' worth of his contract in order to fire him so as of this year it is $240,000 for his base pay. The other option is for cause for his conduct having a "significant negative effect on the goodwill of the public at large toward or confidence in the University, its Department of Athletics, or the UNH Men's Ice Hockey Program". That is taken directly from the contract that I have.

I don't know if the calling for him to get fired, calling for the AD to get fired, less butts in seats, season ticket holders not renewing, etc. count towards that or not. That is not something I can interpret. I would argue that it does but not my decision.

It all depends on how an attorney or arbitor interprets the language.