What's new
USCHO Fan Forum

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

  • The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.

UNH 2021 Off-Season Thread: Finally!?!

Satire is fine. A bunch of fat jokes aimed at one person is not.

I wanted to save this one for last today. It just goes to show how soft we've all become, when this PC censorship passes for community management, or whatever it is that the mods claim to police here at USCHO. Keep in mind, my comments were not directed at another poster - they were directed at the associate head coaching hire at UMaine (in the public realm, no?).

By the way, while complimenting UMaine for otherwise "knocking it out of the park" in the offseason by hiring Ben Barr, who I have no doubt will turn your program around in a positive way, and in less time than many on here seem to think ... I've said more than once that UMaine "won" the offseason. And I haven't ruled out the possibility that despite his excessive girth, AHC Fortier may prove to be a good D-1 coach after all at some point. He can end any talk about his weight simply, in two ways: (1) lose some of the weight, and look the part of a D-1 coach; and/or (2) keep the weight on, but beat everyone's brains out on the recruiting trails, and win lots of games on the ice. Having USCHO mods run interference for him shouldn't be Door #3.

It wasn't all that long ago that posters (and not just myself) would satirically mock or mimic Coach York for his manner of speaking, or Paul Pooley for being bald, or even Blaise MacDonald for being short. Arguably, any of those three coaches had less control over their "situations" that landed them in the line of fire than Fortier does. But none of those guys was ever afforded any protection from the USCHO mods (nor can I even begin to imagine they worried about it). Coach York ended his "situation" by winning a boatload of D-1 titles at BC. Pooley and MacDonald lost their jobs, and were eventually replaced by better, more accomplished coaches - not because they were bald or short, or whatever.

Lastly ... the whole way it was handled by USCHO (you?) was laughable. So, I was having some fun on the UMaine thread, because we have a rich and colorful history together, and believe it or not, I have some friends there as well. Some folks were thinking I was going soft on UMaine, and wondered if I was being sincere. I was (and still am) 100% sincere about thinking Barr is the right man/right time, and UMaine is on track to return to past glories, and being jealous that he wasn't at UNH. When Fortier's image started to become widely available after his hire, I decided to "reassure" my UMaine-iacs friends their "old Chuck" foe was still alive and well, starting a line of parodies on Fortier that apparently made some folks uncomfortable.

That would probably have played out by now, except one UMaine poster wanted to call attention to their displeasure with my postings, starting a new thread ("The Influence of USCHO") which was either brilliant satire in and of itself OR a thinly veiled threat to my posting status, legal issues, etc. I took that as an invitation to take the silliness out of the UMaine thread, and to continue it in the "Influence" thread. So I was either (1) joining on on the joke, OR (2) telling the poster what I thought of his threats, and where he could more permanently store them, so to speak. Keep in mind also ... if it was the former, it wouldn't have been the first time I adapted a UMaine poster's quip into a running gag (see WIS as Walshy is Satan, et al).

But now USCHO, after allowing free rein on all public realm commentary - including last year's WIS expose of BC Chancellor Shea a/k/a HEA referee Kevin Shea (presumably because it's 100% provably true) - is now stepping in as the PC arbiters of good taste to defend a nondescript UMaine AHC from obvious observations that he is just plain fat?

You at least owe an explanation as to exactly where the line is being drawn these days, and why ...
 
https://www.uscho.com/2003/11/03/two-of-a-kind/

These days, on the ice and in recruiting, were a long time ago...

Collins is T-12th in all-time scoring at UNH and T-10th in goals. The idea he failed to develop in any was is only explained by outsized expectations that he was predestined to be the best player in school history. He was six points a year shy of being a 200 point player...

He didn’t make it as an NHLer for the same reaso. Krog and Hayward failed - he was born in the wrong era. There is no doubt he was capable of matching the Minors/European career length of those two - or Saviano - if he had wanted to pursue such a career.

HE FR of the Year, two-time All-HE, All-American, tons of big goals.
 
blah blah blah

You at least owe an explanation as to exactly where the line is being drawn these days, and why ...


satire

(ˈs?taɪə)
n
1. (Literary & Literary Critical Terms) a novel, play , entertainment, etc, in which topical issues, folly, or evil are held up to scorn by means of ridicule and irony

Fat jokes are not satire.
 
Fat jokes are not satire.

Au contraire, when "fat jokes" are aimed at a robust D-1 hockey coach who is at least partially responsible for overseeing the fitness of an elite group of athletes ... yes, it really IS satire. For example ... if you saw someone like John Candy or John Belushi (RIP) coaching in a gymnastics skit on SNL, or likewise Manute Bol (RIP) in an NFL weight room ... satire, geddit??

There are endless potential scenarios where folks are awkwardly-positioned for their current stations, which would be inviting targets to be mined for satire. Imagine for a moment, if the guy in charge of what passes for the free world these days was senile ... oh, wait ...
 
Au contraire, when "fat jokes" are aimed at a robust D-1 hockey coach who is at least partially responsible for overseeing the fitness of an elite group of athletes ... yes, it really IS satire. For example ... if you saw someone like John Candy (RIP) or John Belushi (RIP) coaching in a gymnastics skit on SNL, or likewise Manute Bol (RIP) in an NFL weight room ... satire, geddit??

There are endless potential scenarios where folks are awkwardly-positioned for their current stations, which would be inviting targets to be mined for satire. Imagine for a moment, if the guy in charge of what passes for the free world these days was senile ... oh, wait ...

JFYP to clarify that John Candy also is dead (since 1974, I think), as I believe that the (RIP) needs to be included after each name where applies, according to Emily Post, if I am not mistaken.
 
What is wrong with this place these days ... over in the UMaine thread, the dear little snowflakes among the sane regulars are outraged because I dared to point out their new AHC is a little (lot?) on the portly side ... the Cafe (a/k/a Faculty Lounge) has been overrun with lefties and outright commies ... and even on here, Snives goes full Emily Post on my usage of RIP's. Yikes!!

Hockey season can't start soon enough, that much is 100% absolutely sure ...
 
Just wanted your readers to know that John Candy is dead, Chuck. Thanks for fixing my typo, Scott.

Also, I think that an important point in Rome’s rant is that over 65% of Americans are overweight (“fat!”), so the BB’s new assistant coach has lots of company.
 
Just wanted your readers to know that John Candy is dead, Chuck. Thanks for fixing my typo, Scott.

Also, I think that an important point in Rome's rant is that over 65% of Americans are overweight (“fat!”), so the BB's new assistant coach has lots of company.

There's probably a lesson to be learned from the two fat guys and the one really tall/way too skinny guy in my original post all being dead way too soon in their respective lives, eh Snives?

As far as the new UMaine AHC, he is only in his mid 40's and about 20 years out from his last competitive playing experience (in college hockey BTW). Judge for yourself; I've posted a link to his bio at the UMaine website and a video of him doing a promo for his alma mater a few years ago ...

Jason Fortier - Assistant Coach - Staff Directory - University of Maine Athletics (goblackbears.com)

To Jim Rome's point ... this is not JAG, this is a hockey coach of young players at an elite level. The only comps I could come up with in the NHL (or NCAA to my knowledge) were Bruce Boudreau and Barry Trotz, and both of them are considerably older than Fortier (and Trotz is not even as portly). The guy has to be pushing 300 pounds. Not a great look for a guy coaching the "cream of the crop" young players in what is a very demanding and highly athletic sport. This is not baseball/softball, where a few extra pounds doesn't hurt, or football/rugby, where strength and sheer mass are important things in the scrimmage line positions. If you're coaching high level hoops, hockey or soccer, you really shouldn't be carrying the weight this guy does.

I was gonna leave the topic alone until the RS, but you drew me back in Snives. Shame on you ... ;-)
 
There's probably a lesson to be learned from the two fat guys and the one really tall/way too skinny guy in my original post all being dead way too soon in their respective lives, eh Snives?

As far as the new UMaine AHC, he is only in his mid 40's and about 20 years out from his last competitive playing experience (in college hockey BTW). Judge for yourself; I've posted a link to his bio at the UMaine website and a video of him doing a promo for his alma mater a few years ago ...

Jason Fortier - Assistant Coach - Staff Directory - University of Maine Athletics (goblackbears.com)

To Jim Rome's point ... this is not JAG, this is a hockey coach of young players at an elite level. The only comps I could come up with in the NHL (or NCAA to my knowledge) were Bruce Boudreau and Barry Trotz, and both of them are considerably older than Fortier (and Trotz is not even as portly). The guy has to be pushing 300 pounds. Not a great look for a guy coaching the "cream of the crop" young players in what is a very demanding and highly athletic sport. This is not baseball/softball, where a few extra pounds doesn't hurt, or football/rugby, where strength and sheer mass are important things in the scrimmage line positions. If you're coaching high level hoops, hockey or soccer, you really shouldn't be carrying the weight this guy does.

I was gonna leave the topic alone until the RS, but you drew me back in Snives. Shame on you ... ;-)

If Porier's special teams out-perform our UNH squad in their three meetings this regular season, for example if his penalty kill unit strips the puck from our 5-3 power play unit, with two of our guys standing around uselessly behind the Maine net, and then scores a breakaway goal, I think that we should agree that "fat don't matter."
 
If Porier's special teams out-perform our UNH squad in their three meetings this regular season, for example if his penalty kill unit strips the puck from our 5-3 power play unit, with two of our guys standing around uselessly behind the Maine net, and then scores a breakaway goal, I think that we should agree that "fat don't matter."

Yes, I've made that concession several times in the prior discussion on the UMaine thread. If it turns out the guy can flat-out recruit and/or coach, then "fat don't matter" (although it's still not a great look for a D-1 level coach). We used to give York loads of crap about his linguistics, until he won 4 D-1 titles in a little over a decade. That doesn't come up anymore, does it?

P.S. to our own "Emily Post of USCHO" - it's Fortier, not "Porier". :-)

P.P.S. - check out the UMaine thread to see what landed in a Downeast Harbor this past weekend ...
 
Yes, I've made that concession several times in the prior discussion on the UMaine thread. If it turns out the guy can flat-out recruit and/or coach, then "fat don't matter" (although it's still not a great look for a D-1 level coach). We used to give York loads of crap about his linguistics, until he won 4 D-1 titles in a little over a decade. That doesn't come up anymore, does it?

P.S. to our own "Emily Post of USCHO" - it's Fortier, not "Porier". :-)

P.P.S. - check out the UMaine thread to see what landed in a Downeast Harbor this past weekend
...

You of all UNH posters should know that I was purposefully trying to make a tribute to Jacques "Rabbit" Poriveau, which I misspelled.

And, as for the duck, I will ask in Bob Lobel fashion, "Why cannot we get ducks like 'dat on Great Bay Estuary?"
 
You of all UNH posters should know that I was purposefully trying to make a tribute to Jacques "Rabbit" Poriveau, which I misspelled.

Fair enough, Snives. IIRC I was not as active on USCHO as before (or since) during the Rabbit's heyday, so that slipped my mind. We cannot offer enough tributes to the genius of JRP, I concur. And for the 90th time, I will deny I was JRP (although I'm pretty sure I know who he was).

And, as for the duck, I will ask in Bob Lobel fashion, "Why cannot we get ducks like 'dat on Great Bay Estuary?"

True. Instead, we get to settle for normal-sized, nondescript ducks, who are here mostly because Papa Duck brought them here, and set them up nicely for an extended stay by the Bay, despite being nondescript ducks who also do not attract the crowds or enjoy the same prominence and/or success as Papa Duck, likely also falling short of the new ducks up Downeast.

Thanks for the nice set-up there, Snives. :-)
 
Dictator Dean is running rampant with Covid policies as school approaches. I was worried we would need them at the Whit but based on this we should be safe

Masks are required in classrooms; labs/offices and other indoor spaces where people will be close to one another for more than a few minutes; highly congested spaces and events; and elevators when riding with other people.

Based on performance and number in attendance this definitely won’t apply at men’s games
 
dictator dean is running rampant with covid policies as school approaches. I was worried we would need them at the whit but based on this we should be safe

masks are required in classrooms; labs/offices and other indoor spaces where people will be close to one another for more than a few minutes; highly congested spaces and events; and elevators when riding with other people.

Based on performance and number in attendance this definitely won't apply at men's games

lol
 
Dictator Dean is running rampant with Covid policies as school approaches. I was worried we would need them at the Whit but based on this we should be safe

Masks are required in classrooms; labs/offices and other indoor spaces where people will be close to one another for more than a few minutes; highly congested spaces and events; and elevators when riding with other people.

Based on performance and number in attendance this definitely won’t apply at men’s games

I almost renewed my season tickets a couple of weeks ago. Given the new mask requirement and lack of on ice "excitement" (almost chose another word, but trying to be nice) I will definitely need to think hard before I take the plunge. Maybe Dictator Dean should require "paper bags over the head" for admittance to hockey games at the Whit.
 
Maybe Dictator Dean should require "paper bags over the head" for admittance to hockey games at the Whit.

Just bring back the Cooperalls, tie-in the schedule with the WCHA for a weekly beating and call it Mid-80's. Maybe even recruit a bunch of hungry GBL kids. :-) :-)
 
Maybe even recruit a bunch of hungry GBL kids. :-) :-)

Broadening it out from the GBL, UNH has completely disappeared off the New England recruiting scene in the six plus years of Souza's recruiting. It is brought home with the 8/1 recruiting window, where eight of the Hockey East teams snapped up the top junior kids, while UNH joins Merrimack and Lowell on the sidelines.

As for the Souza New England recruits, here's the list with career totals.
[TABLE="border: 1, cellspacing: 0"]
[TR]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Eric[/TD]
[TD]MacAdams[/TD]
[TD]110-19-23-42[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Anthony[/TD]
[TD]Wyse[/TD]
[TD]136-8-18-26[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Joe[/TD]
[TD]Sacco[/TD]
[TD]83-2-4-6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ryan[/TD]
[TD]Verrier[/TD]
[TD]92-4-12-16[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Drew[/TD]
[TD]Commesso[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Connor[/TD]
[TD]Sweeney[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Nolan[/TD]
[TD]McElhaney[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Zack[/TD]
[TD]Jones[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Aidan[/TD]
[TD]Curran[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Drew[/TD]
[TD]Hickey[/TD]
[TD]20-0-0-0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]David[/TD]
[TD]Sacco[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Liam[/TD]
[TD]Devlin[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Morgan[/TD]
[TD]Winters[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Robert[/TD]
[TD]Cronin[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]J.P.[/TD]
[TD]Turner[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jack[/TD]
[TD]Ring[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Nick[/TD]
[TD]Ring[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Cy[/TD]
[TD]Leclerc[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Nick[/TD]
[TD]Cafarelli[/TD]
[TD]14-1-5-6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Robby[/TD]
[TD]Griffin[/TD]
[TD]13-0-1-1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Alex[/TD]
[TD]Gagne[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Damien[/TD]
[TD]Carfagna[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Joe[/TD]
[TD]Nagle[/TD]
[TD]7-0-0-0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Cam[/TD]
[TD]Gendron[/TD]
[TD]16-2-4-6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jed[/TD]
[TD]Baliotti[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Brendan[/TD]
[TD]Fitzgerald[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Maybe the UNH tech department can re-program his GPS to make it look like New England is actually Germany. This will get him out on the New England highways in search of some strudel.
 
Back
Top