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UND is going down the tubes.

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Rich said:
SCSU Euro -

I tend to agree with your post, although I might quibble with a couple of the teams in the bands you laid out they aren't that far off of what I would put together. UND - like BSU, MTU, and other teams that are unlikely to host a playoff series - is still a dangerous team that will knock off some of the top teams despite their problems. They still have a lot of size and talent on the blueline, even though they started slowly. Their goaltending is good enough to steal a game here and there. And they still have enough top end forwards to put up a solid number of goals even if they lack the depth to do it every night. The script for a top half league finish is to sweep most series at home and split on the road, so I'm hoping that CC can get 2 points out of Grand Forks this weekend.

What's that Lou Holtz quote? You're never as good as everyone tells you when you win, and you're never as bad as they say when you lose. I think that applies to quite a few teams in the WCHA this year - both at the top and the bottom of the league.
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This feels weird, 'cause I'm about to ask something that isn't fishing, I'm not placating, and I'm not being sarcastic:

I'm curious how you'd band them together 'cause I actually think you know what you're talking about.
 
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Happy said:
I wasn't embarrassed. It's not like we had a team of Canadians, with a Canadian coach, that throw lawn mowers and **** on each other in elevators, and an abusive and hostile mascot that always chokes at the end of the year anyway.
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You would think "the state of hockey" could outshine a few canadians and their inept coaching since they spend the majority of their time drinking and driving or being detained. I guess that is difficult when the canadians are ending your season or laughing while UAA ends it in your own barn.
 
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cross cheque said:
You would think "the state of hockey" could outshine a few canadians and their inept coaching since they spend the majority of their time drinking and driving or being detained. I guess that is difficult when the canadians are ending your season or laughing while UAA ends it in your own barn.
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UND fan modus operandi appears to be as follows.

When UND is successful: Incessantly rip apart the rival program's current state and dismiss any attempt by their fans to bring up the past. Defend vehemently that the past doesn't matter, criticising anyone who brings up a game from the past few years in which the rival may have won. Focus on now, for that is what's important!

When UND blows goats: Incessantly rip apart the rival program's past few years of futility, and dismiss any attempt by them to bring up the current success of said rival program. Turns out the past does indeed matter, and should be brought up constantly to remind rival of it. Focus on the past, for that is what's important!

Quite simple, really.
 
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cross cheque said:
You would think "the state of hockey" could outshine a few canadians and their inept coaching since they spend the majority of their time drinking and driving or being detained. I guess that is difficult when the canadians are ending your season or laughing while UAA ends it in your own barn.
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that's why we have won two, yes two national championships since your Canadians managed to win und's last one. Minnesota even won a national championship when you had god on your team.
 
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johnnypohlfan said:
UND fan modus operandi appears to be as follows.

When UND is successful: Incessantly rip apart the rival program's current state and dismiss any attempt by their fans to bring up the past. Defend vehemently that the past doesn't matter, criticising anyone who brings up a game from the past few years in which the rival may have won. Focus on now, for that is what's important!

When UND blows goats: Incessantly rip apart the rival program's past few years of futility, and dismiss any attempt by them to bring up the current success of said rival program. Turns out the past does indeed matter, and should be brought up constantly to remind rival of it. Focus on the past, for that is what's important!

Quite simple, really.
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Very simple. This is basically what fans of any fan base attempt to do.
 
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SCSU Euro:

I'd agree with MN, UMD, and CC being in the top tier (although none of the three look as dominant as some recent WCHA champions), but I'd add Denver. Their PP and top scorers haven't produced at the expected level yet (but they will), and I think that Murry going down with an injury may actually be good for them with the Finn taking over. They dropped and tied a few surprising games, but I think that was a fluke and they're about to get started on a very strong run.
I agree with SCSU and UNO being in the 2nd tier.
I agree with MTU, UND and UW all being in the third tier, but I think BSU belongs there as well. They might not have the talent of the other three, but I think the bottom two are in a class unto themselves.
I'd only put Mankato and UAA alone in the bottom tier. I think UAA is going to have trouble scoring more than 2 goals a game, and Mankato will have trouble keeping opponents under 4. Othe than the odd fluke win against the top 10, I think these two will struggle to beat anyone but each other.
 
Re: UND is going down the tubes.

Rich said:
SCSU Euro:

I'd agree with MN, UMD, and CC being in the top tier (although none of the three look as dominant as some recent WCHA champions), but I'd add Denver. Their PP and top scorers haven't produced at the expected level yet (but they will), and I think that Murry going down with an injury may actually be good for them with the Finn taking over. They dropped and tied a few surprising games, but I think that was a fluke and they're about to get started on a very strong run.
I agree with SCSU and UNO being in the 2nd tier.
I agree with MTU, UND and UW all being in the third tier, but I think BSU belongs there as well. They might not have the talent of the other three, but I think the bottom two are in a class unto themselves.
I'd only put Mankato and UAA alone in the bottom tier. I think UAA is going to have trouble scoring more than 2 goals a game, and Mankato will have trouble keeping opponents under 4. Othe than the odd fluke win against the top 10, I think these two will struggle to beat anyone but each other.
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That's funny, 'cause if I had to "overload" any groupings, I would've moved BSU up and instead of moving DU up, I'd almost move CC down, but I was doing it nice and easy to break down a 3, 3, 3, 3 tier. I still think that in the end UND, UW and MTU have finish ahead of BSU, but I could see DU catching some of the top 3's, particularly a) when/if Brittain comes back and b) how much rust he has. I guess right now I have more faith in CC, but going if Brittain comes back healthy I'd go the other way.
 
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johnnypohlfan said:
UND fan modus operandi appears to be as follows.

When UND is successful: Incessantly rip apart the rival program's current state and dismiss any attempt by their fans to bring up the past. Defend vehemently that the past doesn't matter, criticising anyone who brings up a game from the past few years in which the rival may have won. Focus on now, for that is what's important!

When UND blows goats: Incessantly rip apart the rival program's past few years of futility, and dismiss any attempt by them to bring up the current success of said rival program. Turns out the past does indeed matter, and should be brought up constantly to remind rival of it. Focus on the past, for that is what's important!

Quite simple, really.
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Don't try to church it up, we're just keeping up with the Joneses.
 
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Happy said:
that's why we have won two, yes two national championships since your Canadians managed to win und's last one. Minnesota even won a national championship when you had god on your team.
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If we're playing the Sioux Game, then I submit, with your evidence, 2 > 0. Let's keep it in this century, at least.
 
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Goon said:
Wow! Easy sweep eh? Your team barely came out of the second game with the win, the Sioux had the lead going into the third period. If beating UND was easy the Goofs would have won 5-0.
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If not for Dell single-handedly keeping them in it, it probably would have been the 5-0 score we just saw against Jan.
 
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Happy said:
that's why we have won two, yes two national championships since your Canadians managed to win und's last one. Minnesota even won a national championship when you had god on your team.
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Exactly. I hope they all keep this in mind:

# of NCAA rings:
Chad Roberg = 2
Everyone who ever played for Hakstol = 0

Driftryder said:
With the defections,injuries and uninspired play, this Sioux team sounds eerily familiar to the Gophers from the last couple of years.
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Interesting. I never thought of it that way. This is taking obsession to a whole new level as the team is striving to follow in our footsteps of the last few years.
 
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