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UMD v MN Round 2

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Sounds like the rough stuff has started at the DECC...UMD throws the water bottle onto the ice. West out after being flattened by Thibault. Parade to the penalty box with officials having lost control apparently.

This is not an eyewitness account.
 
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Sounds like the rough stuff has started at the DECC...UMD throws the water bottle onto the ice. West out after being flattened by Thibault. Parade to the penalty box with officials having lost control apparently.

Not surprising when Lick is officiating. :eek:
 
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I think Minnesota has to win the first one, because if they don't UMD will be even more motivated. While logic would favor a split in this series, I have a hunch it will be a sweep - I just don't know by whom.

Sorry to say that my hunch proved to be right. From the blog and live game stats, the 3rd period was a penalty fest. Not sure if the Gophers just lost their cool or if the refs are mainly to blame for losing control of the game.

One thing's for sure, if these two teams meet in the playoffs and/or the NCAA's, it could get ugly.
 
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West had to be helped off twice... first to the bench, then from the bench to the locker room tunnel. She was favoring her right leg -- not putting any weight on it.

I'll provide my perspective on the game in the Gopher thread. In the meantime, here's the box score link.
 
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West getting checked is a direct result of a lack of officiating.. she threw a check on a UMD player (I didn't see which player, it was in front of the penalty box, and view was blocked by the glass) and neither ref was calling that until Thibault retaliated, then they both got 2 for roughing.

Perrault (and Lick at times) has always had a knack for letting stuff get out of hand before deciding to start calling penalties. I won't go as far as saying anything that happened tonight was dirty either.. most of it won't happen if they'd blown a whistle on earlier stuff (both ways, not just against Minnesota.)

As for the weekend, it wasn't the performance I expected out of the Gophers..but a HUGE weekend for UMD with Libby Guzzo getting good minutes, but Kacy Ambroz especially stepping up and playing huge minutes. She (Ambroz) has had increased time as the season went along, but now she's out there in some of the most important minutes and not just watching them.

Without looking at the other series, UMD could have Fridfinnson as the O-POW, Harss will be D-POW, Katie Wilson could have a shot at Rookie of the Week..

If UMD can continue to play at this level and roll three lines, there's no telling where their season will lead to.

I don't expect the Gophers to lay down and lose the conference lead without a fight either, and I agree with some Gopher fans tonight that either Lura or Grogan is really going to step it up after this weekend. Are they (the goaltenders) lacking confidence after not seeing much time since Räty showed up at Minneapolis? Neither one has bad career numbers and neither really played as well as I had expected from the weekend.
 
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So is it strange that UMD beat MN this weekend by the exact same scores on the same nights that MN beat UMD by before.


3-1, 3-0
 
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Shame on those refs. What a bunch of horses**t to let it get to that point.

Hope Westy is okay, no matter what the reason for the check.
 
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Thibault had no business laying out West. She should have stayed in that box longer than 2 minutes. Game flew out of hand after that, as Minn wanted a piece of her (understandably) but picked up three penalties trying to get that piece! I don't see these two teams getting that hot around the collar again. If they meet in the WCHA's, UMD will probably drop it with the Ridder curse. If they meet in the Frozen Four, neither team will play that chippy. UMD learned that the hard way last year when Holmlov got hosed against Wisco.

I still think Minn is the team to beat, they have far more talent than any team I personally have seen this year. It is their year to lose it, because it will be between UMD and Wisco next season.
 
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I think unless the wheels come off
The dogs are locked to hose a regional game now.
I hope that proves to be omniscient.:D

Curious why Lura started too,
I thought it was the right move, and I didn't think she ranked near the top of the Gophers' list of problems last night. At least now they are better positioned to play the goalie that they feel is performing better in games, forget who had a stronger practice or who had the stats last season.

As for Saturday's game, very disappointed with Minn play late in the game.
I thought they lost some poise earlier in the game. Yes, it had been a frustrating series, but the Gophs have to keep their eye on the prize.

Unless someone has PROOF Miller threw the
Bottle, you aren't getting a call, Minn fans.
It's a bench minor; it doesn't matter if it was Miller, an assistant, or a 4th line wing. With orangle fluid decorating the ice from the Bulldog bench to the far side of the ice, only the O.J. jury would need more proof than that. Or maybe the Chancellor was just having a water bottle malfunction.:rolleyes: I didn't hear any announcement to the crowd of "please don't throw objects onto the ice", so I doubt anyone in attendance thinks it came from any other source. At least throw plain old water so it doesn't screw up the ice.

That is awful sportsmanship.
Note how the two coaches reacted in the third period last night. One calls time out to try settle things down. The other chucks a bottle. It's not the first time that I've seen it from her; it won't be the last. There are reasons why she has few coach of the year awards compared to her team's titles. Sportsmanship, or lack thereof, is a big reason why. In the future when I see Coach Miller, I'll remember a long swath of orange fluid on the DECC ice. The average 6-year-old displays more self-control.

I still think Minn is the team to beat, they have far more talent than any team I personally have seen this year. It is their year to lose it, because it will be between UMD and Wisco next season.
As we saw this weekend, Minnesota's offense can go into the deep freeze at any time. Just one of the problems that they'll have to try to overcome in games starting Friday. As for next year, Bulldogs/Badgers will get all of the attention. The Gophers will have a ton of talent, but much of it will need to be proven at the D-I level. They'll be a little like UMD was in the fall of 2007 -- great goaltending, dynamic newcomers, some stars already in place. Who knows how things could line up by March of 2011.
 
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On the other hand, I thought Kortum should've at least gotten five for retaliating way after the play ...
She wasn't involved.

She described what she saw and what Miller felt as "she grabbed her arm, would not release it, then jerked it down and twisted it." It was enough that she said Miller looked back, something I noticed too, to see which player it was. Miller is commonly sworn at through lines (was again last night), but 25's actual actions are another story.

Gopher fans will respond by saying Miller threw the gatorade, but one, that doesn't excuse ripping someone's arm out...
If I'm shaking hands with somebody and they "rip my arm out", I'm not going to need to look around to figure out who the culprit was. Not saying the player in question may not have done something out of line, I didn't see that, only Miller's reaction, but I think that there is some exaggeration here.

The rest of the WCHA may bark poor sportsmanship, but I disagree. No one ever accused her of being a good loser, but she protects her players. And in my humble opinion, those coach of the year awards, epecially in the WCHA = a joke to anyone that regularly watches UMD play.
In terms of on ice accomplishments only, she would deserve more. If your point is that she behaves badly but she has her reasons, I'm sure that in her own mind she is justified. She has called herself the Pat Summit of women's hockey; she reminds me more of Bob Knight -- an excellent coach in terms of preparing a team, with a long list of questionable actions. If your defense to the latest one is that "the officials didn't see it", well they penalized the wrong Gopher when you accuse them of taking a run at Harss, so what they see/miss doesn't always define what we saw happen.
 
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Always interesting . . . all this series proved is that on this particular weekend UMD took better advantage of their opportunities. Harss was able to showcase her talent against a very good team . . . no matter what else happened on the ice shutting out the Gophers for 5 1/2 periods (roughly) is a huge accomplishment.

It was an odd weekend for me in terms of spectating . . . I had much of my family with me on Saturday and didn't pay as close attention to the game as I usually do. The hoopla that started in the third . . . I heard the crash of the UMD player into the board and by the time I turned to see what was happening on the ice West had been laid out. I didn't see anything get thrown on the ice but the lengthly delay indicated that there was a lot that had happened. And, like everyone else I hope West is not seriously injured.

Truthfully, I hate that kind of stuff and it simply proves there is animosity between the teams . . . not just a great rivalry. I wish that were not the case. Should they meet again in the WCHA &/or NCAA I certainly hope cooler heads prevail.

I enjoyed meeting more Gopher fans that post here! Hopefully, we'll have a chance to catch up again down at Ridder.
 
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Truthfully, I hate that kind of stuff and it simply proves there is animosity between the teams . . . not just a great rivalry. I wish that were not the case. Should they meet again in the WCHA &/or NCAA I certainly hope cooler heads prevail.
The two teams had played what were relatively clean, seemingly animosity free games for several games over the last 2-3 seasons, preceding this series IMO. I was a little surprised each time I watched those games...but it was good hockey.
 
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She wasn't involved.

My mistake. You're right. It was Bozek.

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Thibault had no business laying out West. She should have stayed in that box longer than 2 minutes. Game flew out of hand after that, as Minn wanted a piece of her (understandably) but picked up three penalties trying to get that piece!

The game was out of hand before that. But you're right. Thibault should've gotten at least five and Bozek, too.
 
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Well it actually started at the end of the second period AFTER THE WHISTLE when blankenship tried to rip Blais helmet off her by shoving her hand in an upward motion in Blais face(great sportsmanship by the way) then Jones trying to run Harss and Joce had to handle it to protect her......then the series of event in the 3rd really started with West taking a run at Cournoyer and slamming her into the glass at the Bulldog penalty box< then Thibault came in and hit West....and Bozek came in to hit Thibault. It could have stopped after the West hit if they would have called it on her, it was a blantant hit on her part..........and of course so was Thibaults after that and bozek's also....

and dont even get me started on the gophers rasmussen's lack of sportsmanship at the handshake, classless i tell you.. and thats putting it mildly....and i cant believe that a single gopher fan would complain about a broom on the ice(and that it almost hit gopher players,please),i remember seeing about 50 brooms on the ice one year at ridder.......lets look at the full picture people....
 
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Sounds like "there will be fines and suspensions" in the words of the famous wrestling promoter Wally Karbo.
 
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From the Gophersports in game blog account of the festivities:

Not sure what happened, but West just got decked by Thibault. Megan Bozek went after Thibault as West lays down on the ice. A water bottle from the UMD bench goes flying onto the ice.


Yeah, I don't recall any flying Gatorade bottles ever being launched from a Badger bench. :rolleyes:

Wow really? you saw it come from the bench?? Hmmmmm, all you Bulldog haters just look for anything to talk trash about..........funny stuff i tell you......

dont you have anything better to do??

:rolleyes:

Yeah, everyone just imagined the water bottle on the ice...as well as completely fabricated its point of origin. :rolleyes: Classy behavior.

bulldog fans and their bizarre denial & skewed version of reality...amusing stuff I tell ya.
 
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