UMaine Hockey Offseason: Insert Funny Title Here

[Drew S.]

If you want the program to be sustainable long-term, you’ll need to keep it in your line of vision.

Ralph is a facilities guy. The Alfond isn’t a great facility anymore. Atmosphere, yes, but that can only go so far. It’s tough to invest in a 41 year old building with a obscure structural system. Ralph was able to raise almost $40M to move CC hockey on campus for the first time. The answer isn’t the Cross Center, the answer is a new arena on campus.

If they do it I hope it’s Alfond inspired and not like a lot of the newer arenas that are spread out and don’t have any atmosphere. I would also build it smaller than the Alfond and not have more than 4K or so seats for hockey. It is very important that it’s full.

 

[AMC]

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If you want the program to be sustainable long-term, you’ll need to keep it in your line of vision.

Ralph is a facilities guy. The Alfond isn’t a great facility anymore. Atmosphere, yes, but that can only go so far. It’s tough to invest in a 41 year old building with a obscure structural system. Ralph was able to raise almost $40M to move CC hockey on campus for the first time. The answer isn’t the Cross Center, the answer is a new arena on campus.

With whose money? How the heck does that get paid for? What profits would increase by having a new arena? Ticket prices are too high already. Is there a mass of new fans out there who would turn up to go to a nicer arena? People are busier and there are more things to do than in 1990, and there are also fewer people around in Central/Eastern Maine. You spend $40M on a new arena and you are basically setting $40M on fire.

 

[BlackI]

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With whose money?

I don't know. But if I were to guess it would probably be someone that is rich, loves Maine hockey, and wants their name on the building. Or to preserve the name of the building now. The current arena was named after someone that was rich, loved Maine hockey, and wanted his name on the building.

 

[Ma#1ne Hky]

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Be nice to see the Program start winning and winning something that counts...won't see a new arena till then,..NO... not even then...new arena is a pipe dream anyway you cut it.

 

[walrus]

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Do you live in Maine ? If so is it a meth house? You'd have to be extremely high to think he can raise enough cash to build another arena. The oldest state in the union with an aversion to any kind of business that isnt tourist related. This isnt Colarado. Some pot seller out there could probably fund a new arena with ill gotten gain. I hope he can raise enough money to keep Maine D1 .

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[BlackI]

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Do you live in Maine ? If so is it a meth house? You'd have to be extremely high to think he can raise enough cash to build another arena. The oldest state in the union with an aversion to any kind of business that isnt tourist related. This isnt Colarado. Some pot seller out there could probably fund a new arena with ill gotten gain. I hope he can raise enough money to keep Maine D1 .

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Well, you make it seem impossible. I don't think so. Here is an example based on Wikipedia net worth of Alfond's children. If all three split the cost evenly, they would eacch donate 0.4% of their net worth to build a 40 million dollar arena. This is not counting any other donations from any other wealthy people.

Now, I am not saying this is going to happen, just an example to prove it is not as impossible as you make it seem.

Here is an article written in 2011 where UMaine raised over 150 million.
https://bangordailynews.com/2011/04/13/news/bangor/umaine-reaches-150-million-fund-raising-goal/

Here is an article written last year where they raise 121 million on their way to a 200 million dollar goal.
https://umaine.edu/news/blog/2017/1...-tomorrow-200-million-comprehensive-campaign/

I am not convinced you are high if you think Maine can't get enough donar money over time to fund a new arena. I think you are high if you think it is impossible.

 

[Drew S.]

Well, you make it seem impossible. I don't think so. Here is an example based on Wikipedia net worth of Alfond's children. If all three split the cost evenly, they would eacch donate 0.4% of their net worth to build a 40 million dollar arena. This is not counting any other donations from any other wealthy people.

Now, I am not saying this is going to happen, just an example to prove it is not as impossible as you make it seem.

Here is an article written in 2011 where UMaine raised over 150 million.
https://bangordailynews.com/2011/04/13/news/bangor/umaine-reaches-150-million-fund-raising-goal/

Here is an article written last year where they raise 121 million on their way to a 200 million dollar goal.
https://umaine.edu/news/blog/2017/1...-tomorrow-200-million-comprehensive-campaign/

I am not convinced you are high if you think Maine can't get enough donar money over time to fund a new arena. I think you are high if you think it is impossible.

Doesn’t the campus have a lot of needs before they would get to a new rink? I can’t see where a new rink would help attendance in any way either. Lower prices and a better team is what they need.

 

[BlackI]

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Doesn’t the campus have a lot of needs before they would get to a new rink? I can’t see where a new rink would help attendance in any way either. Lower prices and a better team is what they need.

Maybe. My post wasn't targeted at saying we need a new arena to improve attendance. You introduced that.

My post was only to illustrate Maine has campaigned, has had donors, etc... And to assume that it is impossible for Maine to get a new arena funded by donors is to ignore history(facts) and basic mathematical concepts.

 

[amkirby10]

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Id hate to see Alfond go, but I had a friend point out that a possible reason they played up the 40th season was that the place wont make it to 50 seasons.

 

[Ma#1ne Hky]

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Id hate to see Alfond go, but I had a friend point out that a possible reason they played up the 40th season was that the place wont make it to 50 seasons.

Maybe and maybe not....but the reason it was hyped up was: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

 

[walrus]

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Well, you make it seem impossible. I don't think so. Here is an example based on Wikipedia net worth of Alfond's children. If all three split the cost evenly, they would eacch donate 0.4% of their net worth to build a 40 million dollar arena. This is not counting any other donations from any other wealthy people.

Now, I am not saying this is going to happen, just an example to prove it is not as impossible as you make it seem.

Here is an article written in 2011 where UMaine raised over 150 million.
https://bangordailynews.com/2011/04/13/news/bangor/umaine-reaches-150-million-fund-raising-goal/

Here is an article written last year where they raise 121 million on their way to a 200 million dollar goal.
https://umaine.edu/news/blog/2017/1...-tomorrow-200-million-comprehensive-campaign/

I am not convinced you are high if you think Maine can't get enough donar money over time to fund a new arena. I think you are high if you think it is impossible.

I dont see it as impossible, I see it as very improbable given the economic conditions in the State of Maine. Could someone gift a new Arena? sure its possible.
Alfonds offspring could pony up the dough easily, ever see any of them at a game. Do you know if any of them like hockey or care about UMaine at all? Kings would be more likely to do it and UMaine told them to go away.

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[BlackI]

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I dont see it as impossible, I see it as very improbable given the economic conditions in the State of Maine. Could someone gift a new Arena? sure its possible.
Alfonds offspring could pony up the dough easily, ever see any of them at a game. Do you know if any of them like hockey or care about UMaine at all? Kings would be more likely to do it and UMaine told them to go away.

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When you read the second link I sent you will notice they mention Alfond fund for athletics. When you look up each of the Alfond siblings on wikipedia you will notice philantropist used to describe them. The two boys evident combine to have a 4 percent share in the Red Sox. You will also notice Kings name mentioned in that second link, though not for athletics. Again, not saying any of this happens. I am not sure I would say very improbable. More than likely it is a matter of time needed to build the fund.

 

[walrus]

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When you read the second link I sent you will notice they mention Alfond fund for athletics. When you look up each of the Alfond siblings on wikipedia you will notice philantropist used to describe them. The two boys evident combine to have a 4 percent share in the Red Sox. You will also notice Kings name mentioned in that second link, though not for athletics. Again, not saying any of this happens. I am not sure I would say very improbable. More than likely it is a matter of time needed to build the fund.

I cant think of their names but someone was going to match a few million if the U raised a few million for a hockey endowment. That was years ago, has it been matched yet?

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[BlackI]

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I cant think of their names but someone was going to match a few million if the U raised a few million for a hockey endowment. That was years ago, has it been matched yet?

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I don't know. You would have better luck asking some that works in the UMaine foundation.

 

[walrus]

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I don't know. You would have better luck asking some that works in the UMaine foundation.

last i heard it wasnt even close.

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[BlackI]

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last i heard it wasnt even close.

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What is the amount then? And what is the goal?

 

[walrus]

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What is the amount then? And what is the goal?

i think they were going to match 1 or 2 million bucks. They get the money donated and then they would match. Maybe they made the amount and they didnt announce it

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[Drew S.]

i think they were going to match 1 or 2 million bucks. They get the money donated and then they would match. Maybe they made the amount and they didnt announce it

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I thought I read somewhere they were raising a couple hundred thousand a year. Banning the hockey team from having a golf tournament likely isn’t helping. It will be interesting to see what the new AD does as far as the fan groups go.

 

[AMC]

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I dont see it as impossible, I see it as very improbable given the economic conditions in the State of Maine. Could someone gift a new Arena? sure its possible.
Alfonds offspring could pony up the dough easily, ever see any of them at a game. Do you know if any of them like hockey or care about UMaine at all? Kings would be more likely to do it and UMaine told them to go away.

I don't think a single one of the Alfond offspring or their children went to Orono.

 

[BlackI]

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I don't think a single one of the Alfond offspring or their children went to Orono.

Nor did Harold, I believe. Yet, there is this statement that can easily be navigated to from goblackbears.com

About Harold Alfond: Harold Alfond and many of his family members have proven to be among UMaine's most loyal fans! The University of Maine Black Bears are the state's only NCAA Division I athletic program, and offer a unique fan experience that is second to none in Maine. The Alfonds' support of the UMaine Black Bears totals more than $15 million in gifts and pledges. The Alfonds and the Alfond Foundation have leveraged further support from other donors through their challenge grants. Directly and indirectly, the Alfonds' philanthropy has benefited hundreds of scholar-athletes, coaching staff, and UMaine fans, including students and local families.