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UMaine Hockey 2014-15: The Road from Alfond to Boston

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BlackI said:
wow I brag up leen and this is how it goes.

unbelievable. I say if we are looking at a losing season release the dogs and run every team in HE off the ice no matter what the penalties are. this is ridiculous how these refs are calling maine this season and the last few.

I say write off the season and run them off the ice.
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Black, blacky... now this seems like a considerably dumb thing to say... something Chrisssyyy!!!! I mean hobeyfaker might drool out of his mouth. Now pleaze apologize to JD, I think you hurt his feelings.
 
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all bear said:
Black, blacky... now this seems like a considerably dumb thing to say... something Chrisssyyy!!!! I mean hobeyfaker might drool out of his mouth. Now pleaze apologize to JD, I think you hurt his feelings.
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Me thinks lots of beer was involved with BlackI last night :) He accidentally fell into a 6 pack or 2.

Maine is mentally a mess, really its that simple at this point. They can compete physically to a point but once the game is on the line they fall apart. Say hello to another loss tonight unless BC is bigger mess than Maine. I knew this team wasn't going to be great but I didn't think they were going to be bad. Hats off to Romeo for stepping up but Maine still needs a goalie who can steal some games. The D is suspect, Shore has to be hurt and Red won't have any hair left if this keeps up
 
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I suspect Maine will just go through the motions tonight against the ingles after a demoralizing L last night. Should be an easy 2 points for them
 
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all bear said:
I suspect Maine will just go through the motions tonight against the ingles after a demoralizing L last night. Should be an easy 2 points for them
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wait! so the bb's won't run them off the ice?!?! DAMMIT!! :mad:
 
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all bear said:
Eickler 2 Maine 0

If BU doesn't win the NC with this Eiichler kid, it will be the epic choke of all time.
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BU has a decent team,NO NC this year,maybe the Bean-Pot...a NCAA Bid...Eichel is a talent and with that said I wouldn't expect him after his Sophmore year to call BU home as whom ever Drafts him this Summer(1st/2nd or 3rd)...they may let him stay one more season then bump him up to the AHL for further his development...which won't take much and he could be in the NHL after a 1/2 -3/4 season in the AHL...it will all depend on who Drafts him...Carolina? Edmonton? Phoenix?...Buffalo?
 
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walrus said:
Me thinks lots of beer was involved with BlackI last night :) He accidentally fell into a 6 pack or 2.

Maine is mentally a mess, really its that simple at this point. They can compete physically to a point but once the game is on the line they fall apart. Say hello to another loss tonight unless BC is bigger mess than Maine. I knew this team wasn't going to be great but I didn't think they were going to be bad. Hats off to Romeo for stepping up but Maine still needs a goalie who can steal some games. The D is suspect, Shore has to be hurt and Red won't have any hair left if this keeps up
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They can't seem to put 3 periods together,at times they seem to run out of gas 10 minutes into a period...the D as you say is very suspect...yes Remeo has done well at times,but again I agree with they need a Stud in net that can steal games and the whole team has confidence each and every game he's in the crease...Shore...who knows,maybe he's trying to do too much and his plate is full...plus the other teams dog him all game long...never giving him an inch as he is Maine's only Legit scorer(nothing against Cam Brown,BUT)...and "IF" Red ever looses all his hair,well I wouldn't want to be around him on or off the ice. I didn't expect a lot this season except that each game/each week you'd see improvement in different phase's of the Teams game...but it very well could be a LONG/Long season,only 1/3rd thru and @ 3-8-1.
 
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FWIW and to add some sanity thought Maine played a good hockey game last night. BU was dominant in spurts, but Maine played a good team game and were good in the offensive zone cycling and controlling. Folks Maine simply is not deep enough. I don't know how many minutes Shore played last night but he was out there a lot and the way he is committing himself defensively is likely impacting his offense. Romeo was solid all night long. Maine was susceptible to back door plays and BU finally converted on the 2nd goal. 1st goal was all Eichel drawing to Bears to him and dishing to to the open wing for a 1 timer that beat Romeo.

Don't know what many of you expect? Yeah it is no fun losing, and we have a habit of losing on the road and blowing leads. ALL BAD! But this is the first year that Red has even started to bring some of his own guys in. And to be fair some of the frosh who was Tim's recruits were pretty good in Pecararo and Romeo.

Any of you who are as old as me will remember that Shawn's second year in many respects was worse than his first. Takes time for new coaches to implement their system with their recruits.

Finally on Eichel. This kid is the best freshmen in Hockey East since Paul Kariya and he will be the 1st or 2nd pick in this years NHL draft. He will not be at BU next year and he will not play in the AHL. He is 18 and he is a man among boys! No he won't get 100 points, but the game is so much different than it was when Paul played and Paul quite frankly had a better supporting cast in Montgomery and Ingraham. Also Paul was a winger and Eichel a Center, thus he has more defensive responsibility. Watched he and Shore face off all night and Devin was 2nd only to Gaudreau last year in Hockey East IMHO. This kid is DOMINANT and head and shoulders better than Devin and Johnny Hockey, and I loved watching Johnny even if he played for BC.

Patience folks! Red made the correct comments after the game, he was satisfied with the effort (why kill them after that game) but not the result. Think we all expected a better start, but it is a process. Maine will be better as the season progresses, but we're a long way from some of the prognostications of being a "tourney" team.

Here's hoping they can take care of business tonight?
 
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walrus said:
Me thinks lots of beer was involved with BlackI last night :) He accidentally fell into a 6 pack or 2.

Maine is mentally a mess, really its that simple at this point. They can compete physically to a point but once the game is on the line they fall apart. Say hello to another loss tonight unless BC is bigger mess than Maine. I knew this team wasn't going to be great but I didn't think they were going to be bad. Hats off to Romeo for stepping up but Maine still needs a goalie who can steal some games. The D is suspect, Shore has to be hurt and Red won't have any hair left if this keeps up
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I think some people are being a bit too hard on this team, I mean, they played the what, #9 team in the country in their own barn, right with them, heck, even beating them for much of the game, only to lose in OT. But I think this post pretty much sums it up. Right now, it's pretty much all mental, and this team just doesn't have it in that department at this point.

These third period collapses just have to stop. I only heard the game on the 'net, didn't see it, so hard to tell if the collapse last night is simply because these guys are out of shape, played tentatively, or just fell apart completely. Whatever it is, Red needs to get a handle on it, and quickly. I think these last two games show that this team, no matter how it may be lacking in talent compared to some of the big guys out there, can play with them. But the whole mental aspect thing is a puzzle. It's like UHN in a tournament game, clutch the sticks too tight, and basically forget how to do everything that's got them to where they are at the moment.

90% of this game is mental, and the other half is physical.(Apologies to Yogi Berra) These guys either really have to harden up their mental approach to the game, or Red needs to recruit a few hard-nosed farmboys from Alberta who just refuse to lose.
 
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BobF said:
FWIW and to add some sanity thought Maine played a good hockey game last night. BU was dominant in spurts, but Maine played a good team game and were good in the offensive zone cycling and controlling. Folks Maine simply is not deep enough. I don't know how many minutes Shore played last night but he was out there a lot and the way he is committing himself defensively is likely impacting his offense. Romeo was solid all night long. Maine was susceptible to back door plays and BU finally converted on the 2nd goal. 1st goal was all Eichel drawing to Bears to him and dishing to to the open wing for a 1 timer that beat Romeo.

Don't know what many of you expect? Yeah it is no fun losing, and we have a habit of losing on the road and blowing leads. ALL BAD! But this is the first year that Red has even started to bring some of his own guys in. And to be fair some of the frosh who was Tim's recruits were pretty good in Pecararo and Romeo.

Any of you who are as old as me will remember that Shawn's second year in many respects was worse than his first. Takes time for new coaches to implement their system with their recruits.

Finally on Eichel. This kid is the best freshmen in Hockey East since Paul Kariya and he will be the 1st or 2nd pick in this years NHL draft. He will not be at BU next year and he will not play in the AHL. He is 18 and he is a man among boys! No he won't get 100 points, but the game is so much different than it was when Paul played and Paul quite frankly had a better supporting cast in Montgomery and Ingraham. Also Paul was a winger and Eichel a Center, thus he has more defensive responsibility. Watched he and Shore face off all night and Devin was 2nd only to Gaudreau last year in Hockey East IMHO. This kid is DOMINANT and head and shoulders better than Devin and Johnny Hockey, and I loved watching Johnny even if he played for BC.

Patience folks! Red made the correct comments after the game, he was satisfied with the effort (why kill them after that game) but not the result. Think we all expected a better start, but it is a process. Maine will be better as the season progresses, but we're a long way from some of the prognostications of being a "tourney" team.

Here's hoping they can take care of business tonight?
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Great post Bob..right on the money as far as I am concerned.
 
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Maybe they should ask UConn how to hold on to leads and win games......they've been pretty good at doing that.
 
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hobeyfaker said:
This team rivals some of Timmays most inept. 3-9 sais it all. FIRE RED !
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TIMMAY had 12 years and now you want to get rid of Red after 1.3??? Come on Mrs. Whitehead........go have a couple of shots and get some rest.
 
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Pretty sad affair from both sides tonight. BC's first three goals came from horrible mistakes by Maine players. BC played really good defensively, but they don't have a whole lot up front. It was much easier for me to take Maine's loss tonight versus the two in overtime when they had the lead in the third. It's really hard to believe Maine, BC, and UNH are this bad. BC has enough defense that they could sneak into the tourney but its got to be their least talented team in 20 years. Maine and UNH just suck all round.
 
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rufus said:
I think some people are being a bit too hard on this team, I mean, they played the what, #9 team in the country in their own barn, right with them, heck, even beating them for much of the game, only to lose in OT. But I think this post pretty much sums it up. Right now, it's pretty much all mental, and this team just doesn't have it in that department at this point....
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Went to both games. My first live view of the '14-15 team.

The BU O/T loss was a very tough loss. Mentally. BU is #3 BTW, and they're not overrated. Eichel's game winner was an NHL quality shot. The kid is sick. Listen, Maine played well. They had a good game plan, they executed that game plan, they ultimately got outmatched and lost. They played hard, skated hard and took it to BU for a majority of the game. Offense, Defense, Special Teams. This team does not suck. And the Bears had their chances last night...believe it. This 'no scoring on the power play' is a very real and IMHO very urgent problem. We are not good enough to not score on the PP. They controlled the puck in the O.Z. on the PP very well. They made a huge number of crisp accurate passes on the PP. They could NOT freakin' bury one.
-3 straight Maine PP's in the middle of the second - nothing. Just capitalizing on one would make it 3-0 and a totally different game.
-A call on Gryz at 10:08 of the third - nothing.

They should've walked out of Agganis with their heads high. They played hard and they played smart.

Tonight's game at BC, not so much. Not the same team as the night before. Lack of offensive cohesion (very different than against BU), several bad passes that got picked off or taken by BC, they absolutely struggled to keep up with BC.

One thing is totally obvious after watching this team live two nights in a row...it's been said 100 times here...we do not have the depth of either a BU or a BC. Tonight, BC comes at them with 4 good hard skating lines. All four. We do not have four good hard skating fast lines that just keep coming at you. We have one. Red needs recruits, big fast smart hate-to-lose recruits. They need to be his and he will build it.
 
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