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UMaine Black Bears, 2nd verse same as the first 2016-2017

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Drew S. said:
I believe he has to wait another month before he can sign or do anything. I don't think he would have gone to the development camp where he is bailing on them.
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He let Pittsburgh know this spring he was not signing with them and going the Free Agent route.
 
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So nobody has any NEW news or rumors about where he might end up.
 
Drew S. said:
Schedule is out, it's more or less what we expected. The Portland game will be the Saturday BU game, which makes a lot of sense logistically. Maine has no Sunday games but games on a Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday which is a bit strange. Overall though I think it's probably as good of schedule as they've had in awhile.
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Tough start up to thanksgiving and early december. Well I guess its time to show the program is turning around. Got their work cut out. Looking forward to miami and duluth series.
 
NorthMike said:
Tough start up to thanksgiving and early december. Well I guess its time to show the program is turning around. Got their work cut out. Looking forward to miami and duluth series.
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The series against Vermont concerns me a lot. Those are two games you feel Maine really should win. Quinnipiac I don't care about as much. I really have no idea what to expect in Northern Ireland. One very good thing about the schedule is they have six road games during break. That is the perfect time to play them.
 
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Drew S. said:
I believe he has to wait another month before he can sign or do anything. I don't think he would have gone to the development camp where he is bailing on them.
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Not sure this is correct as Notre Dame's goalie Cal Petersen turned down Buffalo who drafted him in 2013 and has signed with the Kings. Surprised he has not surfaced in Vegas as they have to build a minor league system.
 
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BobF said:
Not sure this is correct as Notre Dame's goalie Cal Petersen turned down Buffalo who drafted him in 2013 and has signed with the Kings. Surprised he has not surfaced in Vegas as they have to build a minor league system.
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Cal and Blaine are in two different situations under the NHL CBA. Cal took the Justin Schultz route where if you leave prior to graduating than you become a free agent on July 1. Blaine is taking the Jimmy Vesey route where he graduated thus making him a free agent Aug 15. Where we are a month out I rumors should be starting pertaining to Blaine. He will certainly be a sought after commodity as his decision to leave the Pittsburgh organization was due to an exorbitant amount of highly skilled competition within the organization. Grumblings have been stated by both NHL and NCAA pertaining to this rule and I would look for it to be altered for the next CBA.
 
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Drew S. said:
I wonder what the deal is with Hock, Quinkivan, Binner, and the dman who recently committed from Miami. Did you notice any names missing?
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Just conjecture but Hock and Quinlivan have aged out of juniors and are/were likely not going to receive athletic scholarship money. Hock still have UMaine commit on his twitter account not so for Quinlivan. Maybe they decided not to walk on or maybe Red is going to give them an on campus tryout first. Either way given the forward depth from last year's class and the incoming class both would face an uphill battle for playing time. Binner has been in US a while so I doubt any entrance issues. He might be playing another year in USHL, which would not be a bad thing given his age and the depth at D this season. Tiuraniemi has only been in US for a year so there might be some NCAA entrance issues. If he gets in we'll see his name added later, if not hard to say considering he decommitted from Miami because they tried to push him back a year. If you remember Chase Pearson tried to get in a year early and the NCAA ruling didn't come until August.

From what I saw the roster page was still "in progress" and either accidentally went live or they were testing live functionality. Only names removed were the seniors. Hoglund was still on there but he is gone.
 
Bhall44 said:
Just conjecture but Hock and Quinlivan have aged out of juniors and are/were likely not going to receive athletic scholarship money. Hock still have UMaine commit on his twitter account not so for Quinlivan. Maybe they decided not to walk on or maybe Red is going to give them an on campus tryout first. Either way given the forward depth from last year's class and the incoming class both would face an uphill battle for playing time. Binner has been in US a while so I doubt any entrance issues. He might be playing another year in USHL, which would not be a bad thing given his age and the depth at D this season. Tiuraniemi has only been in US for a year so there might be some NCAA entrance issues. If he gets in we'll see his name added later, if not hard to say considering he decommitted from Miami because they tried to push him back a year. If you remember Chase Pearson tried to get in a year early and the NCAA ruling didn't come until August.

From what I saw the roster page was still "in progress" and either accidentally went live or they were testing live functionality. Only names removed were the seniors. Hoglund was still on there but he is gone.
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It was hard for me to see Hock ever making it. Quinlivan got better last year as the season went on and he seems like he could have been a late bloomer. The story when he committed was he got a lot of academic money. He also was someone who it sounded like could play decent defense. I hope Binner and Tiru come in so Maine can play three lefties on D, but obviously Maine isn't going to have 10 or 11 dmen on the roster.
 
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AMC said:
Does that mean that the previous night's BU game in Orono coincides with one of the state football games on campus? Or are they no longer hosting one of the four in Orono?
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That will likely be the case, yes. The Friday night game (Class C this season) is always in Orono and the other three at Fitzpatrick.
 
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I would think we get a better read of who's on the Roster by mid-August. Remember everything is a SECRET @ Camp Gendron.
 
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BobF said:
Not sure this is correct as Notre Dame's goalie Cal Petersen turned down Buffalo who drafted him in 2013 and has signed with the Kings. Surprised he has not surfaced in Vegas as they have to build a minor league system.
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Vegas would be a ideal spot for him as you say, but don't count out Toronto...there hungry for young players, even if it means he plays for Marlies [AHL] this season. Toronto is building for the long term.
 
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Bhall44 said:
Cal and Blaine are in two different situations under the NHL CBA. Cal took the Justin Schultz route where if you leave prior to graduating than you become a free agent on July 1. Blaine is taking the Jimmy Vesey route where he graduated thus making him a free agent Aug 15. Where we are a month out I rumors should be starting pertaining to Blaine. He will certainly be a sought after commodity as his decision to leave the Pittsburgh organization was due to an exorbitant amount of highly skilled competition within the organization. Grumblings have been stated by both NHL and NCAA pertaining to this rule and I would look for it to be altered for the next CBA.
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Thanks for the explanation. I was wondering about that since I know the Vesey sweepstakes were in August last year. Should have looked it up myself but appreciate your detailed explanation. Agree that NHL teams seeing more high profile guys walk away (Vesey, Petersen) is not a good sign, but it is good for the players who should always look out for their best interest.
 
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BobF said:
Thanks for the explanation. I was wondering about that since I know the Vesey sweepstakes were in August last year. Should have looked it up myself but appreciate your detailed explanation. Agree that NHL teams seeing more high profile guys walk away (Vesey, Petersen) is not a good sign, but it is good for the players who should always look out for their best interest.
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By doing it this way they can choose where they want to start there Career, as for money...the Entry Level Contract does not change, only with slightly different type of Bonus money applied to the Contracts. You can bet that Teams will look to change this in the next CBA, while the players will not want any changes.
 
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walrus said:
The nhl let goons kill him with no punishment.

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If that goon Scott Stevens had taken that cheap shot today, he'd be banned for years and possibly even been prosecuted under the law. PK was just born too early to thrive as he should have in the NHL.
 
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Fishman'81 said:
If that goon Scott Stevens had taken that cheap shot today, he'd be banned for years and possibly even been prosecuted under the law. PK was just born too early to thrive as he should have in the NHL.
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The NHL would have in todays world just "MAYBE" suspended him for 20 games and then reduced it to a 10 game suspension. Stevens had star value and they would have treated his suspension a lot different then a run of a mill Goon type player. Karyia was one of the better players to hit the ice in College Hockey and the NHL as well...just as you say he was in a era where that type of hockey was looked upon as ok.
 
Ma#1ne Hky said:
The NHL would have in todays world just "MAYBE" suspended him for 20 games and then reduced it to a 10 game suspension. Stevens had star value and they would have treated his suspension a lot different then a run of a mill Goon type player. Karyia was one of the better players to hit the ice in College Hockey and the NHL as well...just as you say he was in a era where that type of hockey was looked upon as ok.
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One of the better college players? Please.
 
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