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U of Illinois AD & NHL joint press conference

UncleRay said:
On the other hand: how many people noticed those errors? Of those that noticed, who cares? And of those who care, who cares enough to not write a check? Much ado about very little.
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C'mon. Let's not get all offended over this. It's nothing more than poking fun at something worth poking fun at during the offseason. Sheesh!
 
JohnsonsJerseys said:
So in short, we just received further confirmation that the Big could care less about hockey. I see zero pressure being exerted from the other Big schools for IL to get their butts in gear.
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I mean, why should they? With athletes getting paid by the schools, hockey just got even more expensive. And it's a losing venture for all but the most elite schools in the sports. So why would any school care to set a pile of money on fire?
 
Athletes are getting paid by the schools now? (spare me the jokes). I thought the new rules simply allow athletes to make money however they can. Endorsements, etc. Where does a school paying them come into the equation?
 
J.D. said:
Athletes are getting paid by the schools now? (spare me the jokes). I thought the new rules simply allow athletes to make money however they can. Endorsements, etc. Where does a school paying them come into the equation?
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Eh, you're probalby right. But I have to believe this is just around the corner.

I thought the big ten was looking at stipends for athletes beyond scholarships.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Eh, you're probalby right. But I have to believe this is just around the corner.

I thought the big ten was looking at stipends for athletes beyond scholarships.
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Full cost of attendance has been a thing for years now. And, yes, direct pay for play likely isn't too far off. But, yeah, NIL is not the players being paid by the schools. NIL is both long overdue and at the same time not far enough.
 
J.D. said:
Athletes are getting paid by the schools now? (spare me the jokes). I thought the new rules simply allow athletes to make money however they can. Endorsements, etc. Where does a school paying them come into the equation?
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I have this gnawing feeling that NIL is just the tip of the iceberg, especially for the P5 bluebloods. And if overall athletic expenses go up because of this, then IMO you can kiss further D1 hockey expansion goodbye, except maybe at smaller schools with no football. The football and hoops gods MUST be fed.
 
UncleRay said:
And of those who care, who cares enough to not write a check?
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Considering this is a four year old thread and three teams have announced their intention to jump to D1 while the Illini sit on their thumbs...


.... I'm gonna guess more people aren't writing a check than you assume.
 
aparch said:
Considering this is a four year old thread and three teams have announced their intention to jump to D1 while the Illini sit on their thumbs...


.... I'm gonna guess more people aren't writing a check than you assume.
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In fairness:
  • One of them is a straight up promotion of a lower tier existing program. Very few actual hurdles as far as creating the program.
  • Another one is just a weird batshit crazy announcement out of nowhere with seemingly a cavalier “let’s do it live” approach to things like “putting a team together in two months” and “deciding to just play in what amounts to a pee wee rink”
  • A program that technically doesn’t exist yet.
None of these are going into a conference with seven of the most resource-laden programs in the nation, nor are they trying to have a serious, 5000+ seat arena. In fact I’m not positive any of them have the means to seat more than 1000 fans at a game anytime soon.

Yes, this Illinois thing has dragged out longer than it took PSU to go from announcement to skates on the ice, but it also kinda <makes sense> that what they’re trying to do takes more time and money. Specifically on the arena front.
 
First off I have no idea why you decided to get salty about what I said. But if we’re going to be dicks about it, I’ll oblige…

Augustana does indeed reside in a city with a big arena. Maybe they’ll even use it. We don’t know, they haven’t said as such. Yes it helps to have it carry the name of a donor, but we otherwise have nothing else to go on. By that measure, we should just claim that St Thomas is playing in the Xcel Energy Center.

In fact, St Thomas must be planning on using it of course, since if they were going to use the high school rink they used in D-III then LIU wouldn’t be the “only” school without a 5000+ seat arena would they?

And for the matter of Lindenwood’s 2500 seater: Wodon seems to have added 500 seats for dramatic effect in his article, judging by the numbers on the website for the actual facility. Or they made upgrades that Wodon is privy to but not their web admin. Where you found an extra 2000 seats such as to say LIU is the “only” small facility and be An Annoying Person On The Internet, I’ll leave to my imagination.
 
ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
First off I have no idea why you decided to get salty about what I said. But if we’re going to be dicks about it, I’ll oblige…

Augustana does indeed reside in a city with a big arena. Maybe they’ll even use it. We don’t know, they haven’t said as such. Yes it helps to have it carry the name of a donor, but we otherwise have nothing else to go on. By that measure, we should just claim that St Thomas is playing in the Xcel Energy Center.

In fact, St Thomas must be planning on using it of course, since if they were going to use the high school rink they used in D-III then LIU wouldn’t be the “only” school without a 5000+ seat arena would they?

And for the matter of Lindenwood’s 2500 seater: Wodon seems to have added 500 seats for dramatic effect in his article, judging by the numbers on the website for the actual facility. Or they made upgrades that Wodon is privy to but not their web admin. Where you found an extra 2000 seats such as to say LIU is the “only” small facility and be An Annoying Person On The Internet, I’ll leave to my imagination.
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Your direct quote was "means to seat 1000." Lindenwood is clearly above that. As is St Thomas, for that matter (1000 listed but record attendance is 1100+). Annoying? Perhaps. Accurate? Definitely more than you.
 
moose97 said:
Your direct quote was "means to seat 1000." Lindenwood is clearly above that. As is St Thomas, for that matter (1000 listed but record attendance is 1100+). Annoying? Perhaps. Accurate? Definitely more than you.
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Agreed. The CCHA doesn't have big arenas so it's not like 3,000, 2,500 or 1,100 is out of their league. To me the three new programs are in a good landing spot.
 
aparch said:
Considering this is a four year old thread and three teams have announced their intention to jump to D1 while the Illini sit on their thumbs...


.... I'm gonna guess more people aren't writing a check than you assume.
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The only thing I'm assuming is that you didn't understand my point.
 
4four4 said:
Agreed. The CCHA doesn't have big arenas so it's not like 3,000, 2,500 or 1,100 is out of their league. To me the three new programs are in a good landing spot.
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Other than St Thomas, Ferris State is the only rink to seat less than 3,800.
 
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