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U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread
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Since Grant left? Its a short list. Tanner House and that's about it.
Gusforhobey
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TopShelf999
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Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread
TRUE FANS support a coach who develops players and gives a S*** during a game. I am so sick and tired of seeing an awful call by a referee and TIM just stands there munching on his fruity trident layer gum! I see ZERO emotion from him, how does that motivate a team in a game?..it doesn't. His go to phrase to his players in a very monotone voice is"come on boys while clapping his hands. I miss the days when Shawn would be standing on the boards giving a referee an ear full, he would also get the crowd in it. Those were the days..
Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread
writing that Tim develops players does not make it so.
again, you force somene to point out in vivid detail what you do not have the balls to say, yourself.... Junior coaches and family advisors tell decent players to avoid Whitehead at all costs... BECAUSE he does not develop players. I am going to take their word for it, over a former South Dakota pro-abortion activist
It would be nice to have some positive things to say.
Maybe if Timmy would lower the expectations of the fans and come clean, then we would not point out that his grandiose claims are hollow.
as for House being developed under Timmy... maybe... or he and Flynn benefitted from being left wide open while Gus was double and triple teamed for a couple years.... we shall see how Tanner does in OK City... right now he is 19th on the team in scoring and behind all 6 regular defensemen... not sure that is where a former Maine captiain would have been had he been developed by Grant.
writing that Tim develops players does not make it so.
again, you force somene to point out in vivid detail what you do not have the balls to say, yourself.... Junior coaches and family advisors tell decent players to avoid Whitehead at all costs... BECAUSE he does not develop players. I am going to take their word for it, over a former South Dakota pro-abortion activist
It would be nice to have some positive things to say.
Maybe if Timmy would lower the expectations of the fans and come clean, then we would not point out that his grandiose claims are hollow.
as for House being developed under Timmy... maybe... or he and Flynn benefitted from being left wide open while Gus was double and triple teamed for a couple years.... we shall see how Tanner does in OK City... right now he is 19th on the team in scoring and behind all 6 regular defensemen... not sure that is where a former Maine captiain would have been had he been developed by Grant.
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tylerzx2002
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Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread
Psssh... "Examples" from Big Papa? Don't be so foolish. His job is to pump Whitehead's tires.
Psssh... "Examples" from Big Papa? Don't be so foolish. His job is to pump Whitehead's tires.
Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread
yes yes, granted we all want to win every game but Coach Whitehead and his staff are developing players. If you ask me which ones I will say all of them. Some will step up to higher levels of hockey than others but the players are playing the games, not the coaches. Having said that my fellow fans I will say that we have an excellent talented group of players at Maine. Players develop at this level and continue to develop at the next level. All Coach can do is give them an opportunity and then its up to the player to shine.
A good example would be Spencer Abbott. He wasn't on anybodies radar when he came into Maine--- look at how much he's developed now. Credit has to go to Coach Whitehead and of course Spencer.
No one can argue that he's not a top College player.
I just don't buy into the blame "T.W." game.
Fans are suppossed to support programs and that's what this fan is doing.
Go Black Bears!
yes yes, granted we all want to win every game but Coach Whitehead and his staff are developing players. If you ask me which ones I will say all of them. Some will step up to higher levels of hockey than others but the players are playing the games, not the coaches. Having said that my fellow fans I will say that we have an excellent talented group of players at Maine. Players develop at this level and continue to develop at the next level. All Coach can do is give them an opportunity and then its up to the player to shine.
A good example would be Spencer Abbott. He wasn't on anybodies radar when he came into Maine--- look at how much he's developed now. Credit has to go to Coach Whitehead and of course Spencer.
No one can argue that he's not a top College player.
I just don't buy into the blame "T.W." game.
Fans are suppossed to support programs and that's what this fan is doing.
Go Black Bears!
Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread
OK, Abbott is GOOD. Not a top player. No chance of being a Hobey candidate.... what do you consider "top?"
Abbott has a very hard shot. He never got it off against BC, though. SO what good is it, if he cannot use it against top teams?
as for developing talent... Abbott was horrible at the point on the PP last season. It was not a secret... there was a clear need for improvement in handling the puck coming back to him, AND in knowing when to break back, in order to avoid a breakaway.... he has developed in this regard, hasn't he... he has developed into the worst point man on the PP in the history of Maine hockey...
you cannot score 5 and give up 4 on the PP and consider yourself as "developed"
NEXT
OK, Abbott is GOOD. Not a top player. No chance of being a Hobey candidate.... what do you consider "top?"
Abbott has a very hard shot. He never got it off against BC, though. SO what good is it, if he cannot use it against top teams?
as for developing talent... Abbott was horrible at the point on the PP last season. It was not a secret... there was a clear need for improvement in handling the puck coming back to him, AND in knowing when to break back, in order to avoid a breakaway.... he has developed in this regard, hasn't he... he has developed into the worst point man on the PP in the history of Maine hockey...
you cannot score 5 and give up 4 on the PP and consider yourself as "developed"
NEXT
Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread
as for House being developed under Timmy... maybe... or he and Flynn benefitted from being left wide open while Gus was double and triple teamed for a couple years.... we shall see how Tanner does in OK City... right now he is 19th on the team in scoring and behind all 6 regular defensemen... not sure that is where a former Maine captiain would have been had he been developed by Grant.[/QUOTE]
Relax with Gus being double and triple teamed leaving House and Flynn wide open, just not the case. In fact, I have never heard of a triple team in hockey- just doesn't happen. Maybe a little extra help or keep an eye on Nyquist while he was on the ice, but to say he was ever triple teamed , is just not the case. House doesn;t have the skills to thrive at the next level- if anything he is more the John McCarthy type who will have to specialize in d-zone and face offs to ever get a shot (which I don't think he will).
Flynn, opens up a ton of ice with his speed and skill. He and Nyquist complimented each other well and with a bruising, crash the net center like House, they had a great line. To give the success they had all to Nyquist being double and triple teamed is simply foolish.
as for House being developed under Timmy... maybe... or he and Flynn benefitted from being left wide open while Gus was double and triple teamed for a couple years.... we shall see how Tanner does in OK City... right now he is 19th on the team in scoring and behind all 6 regular defensemen... not sure that is where a former Maine captiain would have been had he been developed by Grant.[/QUOTE]
Relax with Gus being double and triple teamed leaving House and Flynn wide open, just not the case. In fact, I have never heard of a triple team in hockey- just doesn't happen. Maybe a little extra help or keep an eye on Nyquist while he was on the ice, but to say he was ever triple teamed , is just not the case. House doesn;t have the skills to thrive at the next level- if anything he is more the John McCarthy type who will have to specialize in d-zone and face offs to ever get a shot (which I don't think he will).
Flynn, opens up a ton of ice with his speed and skill. He and Nyquist complimented each other well and with a bruising, crash the net center like House, they had a great line. To give the success they had all to Nyquist being double and triple teamed is simply foolish.
Slapshot08
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Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread
Ditto. Big Papa is the biggest clown on this forum. And I no longer need to read his drivel. yessss!
Ah yeah, Big Papa becomes my first ignore. No more of his BS.
Ditto. Big Papa is the biggest clown on this forum. And I no longer need to read his drivel. yessss!
Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread
Not sure "developed" is the right word with House, or that he's even at his ceiling, but he got a lot better from Day One as a freshman to the day he was named captain before junior year. That's all.
And unfortunately, the list of guys that have gotten that noticeably better from Day One to Day Anything is getting shorter all the time.
Not sure "developed" is the right word with House, or that he's even at his ceiling, but he got a lot better from Day One as a freshman to the day he was named captain before junior year. That's all.
And unfortunately, the list of guys that have gotten that noticeably better from Day One to Day Anything is getting shorter all the time.
Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread
Correction. Biggest asz clown on the board. A true buffoon in the best tradition of BC fans.
Correction. Biggest asz clown on the board. A true buffoon in the best tradition of BC fans.
Ma#1ne Hky
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Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread
I'll take a "GOOD COACH" any day and back him thru the lean times while he developes a NEW Atmosphere in the Hockey Program...Hard Work and Dedication by the New Coach would go a long ways compared to what we have seen from the TW era.
Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread
This.
Not only does the program need a change, it would be FUN to watch.
It would be fun watch:
Its fun just thinking about it.
This.
Not only does the program need a change, it would be FUN to watch.
It would be fun watch:
- Whitehead resign/quit or get fired/bought-out
- the national search unfold (if/when it happens) this would probably consist of rumors, less someone has inside info
- the listing of final candidates of said search
- the announcement of a NEW head coach
- all the press conferences and naming of assistants etc.
- a new season without Whitehead
- all subsequent seasons without Whitehead
Its fun just thinking about it.
sandiegoblkbr
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Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread
Especially #6 and #7!
Fishman'81
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Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread
Relax with Gus being double and triple teamed leaving House and Flynn wide open, just not the case. In fact, I have never heard of a triple team in hockey- just doesn't happen. Maybe a little extra help or keep an eye on Nyquist while he was on the ice, but to say he was ever triple teamed , is just not the case. [/QUOTE]
Never seen a triple-team ever, unless the guy in question was all by himself in the O zone on a partial line-change. You just can't do that in D-1 and get away with it.
Relax with Gus being double and triple teamed leaving House and Flynn wide open, just not the case. In fact, I have never heard of a triple team in hockey- just doesn't happen. Maybe a little extra help or keep an eye on Nyquist while he was on the ice, but to say he was ever triple teamed , is just not the case. [/QUOTE]
Never seen a triple-team ever, unless the guy in question was all by himself in the O zone on a partial line-change. You just can't do that in D-1 and get away with it.
Ma#1ne Hky
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Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread
The word would be "Optimism" instead of the same old/same old dreaded Pessimistic attitude we get from the blah/blah TW era.
walrus
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Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread
Even against Maine?, Triple team was an overstatement trying to portray that Gus got alot of attention allowing others to have some time and space on the ice, the reason Cal had 46 goals in 92,93. Trouble is Maine didn't have Cal when Gus was here
Re: U Maine 2011-2012 Season (thread created when Maine was at .500) Thread
Never seen a triple-team ever, unless the guy in question was all by himself in the O zone on a partial line-change. You just can't do that in D-1 and get away with it.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. People tend to overstate this- making it seem like Gus is the only reason that line had success. Coaches tend to match their #1 D pairings or a checking line vs. a top line like that but will almost never "double team" one individual. Double or even triple teaming someone at this level would potentially leave one or 2 guys wide open- just wouldn't work.
Never seen a triple-team ever, unless the guy in question was all by himself in the O zone on a partial line-change. You just can't do that in D-1 and get away with it.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. People tend to overstate this- making it seem like Gus is the only reason that line had success. Coaches tend to match their #1 D pairings or a checking line vs. a top line like that but will almost never "double team" one individual. Double or even triple teaming someone at this level would potentially leave one or 2 guys wide open- just wouldn't work.
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