TV Thread 9: The Walking Dead Americans are completely Justified to be Psyched

[rufus]

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As much as I love Game of Thrones, that episode had nowhere near the kick in the gut that The Wire had when they *spoiler* killed off Omar

I was literally sick the rest of the episode, couldn't go to sleep after because it affected me so.

 

[St. Clown]

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As much as I love Game of Thrones, that episode had nowhere near the kick in the gut that The Wire had when they [redacted]

I was literally sick the rest of the episode, couldn't go to sleep after because it affected me so.

I don't think anything in GoT can really be a kick to the gut, given that the show is built around shock factor. (I've never seen The Wire, so I can't comment on it.) That said, the events from last night take things in a very interesting direction that I just never expected. You simply don't come across a show very often that's so willing to kill off major characters as GoT does.

 

[pirate]

I don't think anything in GoT can really be a kick to the gut, given that the show is built around shock factor. (I've never seen The Wire, so I can't comment on it.) That said, the events from last night take things in a very interesting direction that I just never expected. You simply don't come across a show very often that's so willing to kill off major characters as GoT does.

Especially in volume. And they avoided the cliche...they are following the book I guess but it was "refreshing" to see them be that matter of fact.

 

[The Rube]

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I wonder if Peggy did what she did more to help Joan or to screw Pete... She managed to do both, but one wonders if it was Don or Roger vs Joan would she have bothered?

Well, she still chewed out Joan. I think Peggy is starting to change INTO Joan (as in screw everyone else, I'm on an island), as compared to before where she was trying to help everyone. In other words, Peggy's really starting to get jaded.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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101 Best Written TV Series of All Time, according to the Writer's Guild - http://www.deadline.com/2013/06/wgas-101-best-written-tv-series-of-all-time-complete-list/

101. Oz - HBO
98. Louie - FX (tie)
98. Late Night with David Letterman - NBC (tie)
98. The Fugitive - ABC (tie)
96. Soap - ABC (tie)
96. Lonesome Dove - CBS (tie)
95. Family Ties - NBC
94. Will & Grace - NBC
93. Boardwalk Empire - HBO
91. The Muppet Show - SYN (tie)
91. Absolutely Fabulous - BBC (tie)
90. The Prisoner - CBS
89. Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In - NBC
88. Band of Brothers - HBO
87. Sgt. Bilko (The Phil Silvers Show) - CBS
86. Justified - FX
84. Gunsmoke - CBS (tie)
84. The Defenders - CBS (tie)
83. Get Smart - NBC
79. Upstairs, Downstairs - PBS (tie)
79. Star Trek: The Next Generation - SYN (tie)
79. Monty Python's Flying Circus - BBC (tie)
79. Alfred Hitchcock Presents - CBS (tie)
78. The Odd Couple - ABC
76. I, Claudius - PBS (tie)
76. Barney Miller - ABC (tie)
74. Murphy Brown - CBS (tie)
74. House - Fox (tie)
71. The Shield - FX (tie)
71. Roseanne - ABC (tie)
71. 24 - Fox (tie)
70. The Andy Griffith Show - CBS
69. The Golden Girls - NBC
68. My So-Called Life - ABC
66. The Office - NBC (tie)
66. Dexter - Showtime (tie)
65. Playhouse 90 - CBS
63. South Park - Comedy Central (tie)
63. Everybody Loves Raymond - CBS (tie)
62. Roots - ABC
60. Moonlighting - ABC (tie)
60. Freaks and Geeks - NBC (tie)
58. The Rockford Files - NBC (tie)
58. Fawlty Towers - BBC (tie)
57. Columbo - NBC
56. Sesame Street - PBS
55. L.A. Law - NBC
54. The Wonder Years - ABC
53. Northern Exposure - CBS
50. The Office - BBC (tie)
50. The Good Wife - CBS (tie)
50. The Colbert Report - Comedy Central (tie)
49. Buffy the Vampire Slayer - WB
48. Homeland - Showtime
46. St. Elsewhere - NBC (tie)
46. Homicide: Life on the Street - NBC (tie)
43. Thirtysomething - ABC (tie)
43. Law & Order - NBC (tie)
43. Downton Abbey - PBS (tie)
41. Your Show of Shows - NBC (tie)
41. The Bob Newhart Show - CBS (tie)
40. Game of Thrones - HBO
39. Sex & the City - HBO
38. Battlestar Galactica - SYFY
37. The Carol Burnett Show - CBS
36. NYPD Blue - ABC
35. Twin Peaks - ABC
34. Modern Family - ABC
33. Star Trek - NBC
32. Deadwood - HBO
31. The Honeymooners - CBS
30. Curb Your Enthusiasm - HBO
29. The Cosby Show - NBC
28. ER - NBC
27. Lost - ABC
26. The X-Files - Fox
25. Saturday Night Live - NBC
24. Friends - NBC
23. Frasier - NBC
22. Friday Night Lights - NBC
21. 30 Rock - NBC
20. The Larry Sanders Show - HBO
19. Taxi - ABC
18. Six Feet Under - HBO
17. The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - Comedy Central
16. Arrested Development - Fox
15. Hill Street Blues - NBC
14. The Dick Van Dyke Show - CBS
13. Breaking Bad - AMC
12. I Love Lucy - CBS
11. The Simpsons - Fox
10. The West Wing - NBC
9. The Wire - HBO
8. Cheers - NBC
7. Mad Men - AMC
6. The Mary Tyler Moore Show - CBS
5. M*A*S*H - CBS
4. All in the Family - CBS
3. The Twilight Zone - CBS
2. Seinfeld - NBC
1. The Sopranos - HBO

 

[Priceless]

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41. The Bob Newhart Show - CBS (tie)
37. The Carol Burnett Show - CBS
6. The Mary Tyler Moore Show - CBS
5. M*A*S*H - CBS
4. All in the Family - CBS

CBS on Saturday nights in the 70's must have been awesome.

 

[MountieBoyOz]

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Where the heck is Doctor Who on that list? Boo.

 

[St. Clown]

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Where the heck is Doctor Who on that list? Boo.

Its absence has a lot to do with being Doctor Who.

Just because you like a show doesn't mean it's well written. There are a few shows I thought would make the list, but I didn't see.

 

[MountieBoyOz]

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Its absence has a lot to do with being Doctor Who.

Just because you like a show doesn't mean it's well written. There are a few shows I thought would make the list, but I didn't see.

I think its written very well because of some of the ways they maneuver out of past situations.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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Its absence has a lot to do with being Doctor Who.

Just because you like a show doesn't mean it's well written. There are a few shows I thought would make the list, but I didn't see.

Agreed. I've seen a few episodes of Doctor Who, since my girlfriend is a fan, and I don't think it is very well written. That doesn't mean it doesn't have a following, or that people can't like it. I think Sons of Anarchy is a great show, but that didn't make the list.

 

[Almington]

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I think its written very well because of some of the ways they maneuver out of past situations.

If it was well written, they wouldn't have written themselves into a corner to begin with.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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If it was well written, they wouldn't have written themselves into a corner to begin with.

I think there are episodes that are well written but overall, the show is just cheesy but fun to watch.

 

[MaizeRage]

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It depends on the episode. There's a lot of bad Doctor Who episodes, but it's been on for like 25 years. We're also approaching(or passed, YMMV) the point where over half of the Simpsons run is crap too. Some of the recent Doctor Who episodes are definitely among the best TV writing ever.

It depends on how you want to judge things. Fawlty Towers had 12 episodes, My So-Called Life had 19. Let me cherry-pick that many Doctor Who episodes and it's probably in the top ten.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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It depends on the episode. There's a lot of bad Doctor Who episodes, but it's been on for like 25 years. We're also approaching(or passed, YMMV) the point where over half of the Simpsons run is crap too. Some of the recent Doctor Who episodes are definitely among the best TV writing ever.

It depends on how you want to judge things. Fawlty Towers had 12 episodes, My So-Called Life had 19. Let me cherry-pick that many Doctor Who episodes and it's probably in the top ten.

That is what is tough to guage. There is also Lonesome Dove, Roots and Band of Brothers on the list, how do you compare these miniseries to a sitcom that ran for 10 years, or a show like Saturday Night Live?

 

[rufus]

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(I've never seen The Wire, so I can't comment on it.)

For shame.

 

[Scarlet]

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I would have thought Friday Night Lights would have been higher than 22. I know the second season was not that good, but the series as a whole was outstanding. I suppose I should be thankful it's even on the list.

ETA: I love both of these shows but I'm sorry. There is NO WAY Will & Grace was a better written show than Soap.

96. Soap - ABC (tie)

94. Will & Grace - NBC

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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I would have thought Friday Night Lights would have been higher than 22. I know the second season was not that good, but the series as a whole was outstanding. I suppose I should be thankful it's even on the list.

ETA: I love both of these shows but I'm sorry. There is NO WAY Will & Grace was a better written show than Soap.

96. Soap - ABC (tie)

94. Will & Grace - NBC

I'm sure that has more to do with being early for television and openly gay characters...

 

[Priceless]

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I'm sure that has more to do with being early for television and openly gay characters...

Yes, Soap was early. Oh, you meant Will & Grace?

 

[goldy_331]

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ETA: I love both of these shows but I'm sorry. There is NO WAY Will & Grace was a better written show than Soap.

96. Soap - ABC (tie)

94. Will & Grace - NBC

There are a whole lot of shows ranked above Soap which don't deserve to be.

 

[pirate]

There are a whole lot of shows ranked above Soap which don't deserve to be.

I would have thought Big Bang would at least be on the list.

And Curb being on there is interesting...the best part of that show was that so much was unscripted