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TV: The League Of Anarchy Is A Bunch Of Justified Mad Men

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If you believe it to be "the ****tiest hour of televen ever produced", why are you watching it?

Because he is a hipster who hates everything people actually enjoy. He is like super smart and edgy didnt you know!
 
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You had to figure the Jim and Maggie scenario would happen before the end, but the Charlie piece wasn't expected.

Also, Aaron Sorkin deserves all the applauds there are for putting out there the dangers the internet creates in getting information into that ever loving ether without any sort of vetting process. It can't be said enough about the dangers of mob rule that the internet creates.

Yup...I thought the episode was great including the jail parts.
 
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Two things about The Newsroom:

1. I was obviously distracted and not paying attention but I didn't realize that the guy in Will's cell was not real.

2. The girl that played Mary, the Princeton rape victim, also plays Julia Louis-Dreyfus' daughter in Veep and is KIEFER SUTHERLAND'S DAUGHTER!!! How did I not know that? The Kiefer part....I know she's on Veep.

OK, I lied, there's more....

3. I had a feeling something was going to happen to Charlie early on. He seemed totally over the top. I'm sad to see him go.

4. Does Neal get to come back?

While not Sorkin's best work, I do like this show and it's much better this season than last, Watertown mis pronounciation notwithstanding.
 
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Two things about The Newsroom:

1. I was obviously distracted and not paying attention but I didn't realize that the guy in Will's cell was not real.
When the Will's cellmate started talking I thought it was immediately obvious that there was something off about the situation. At first I thought the jail put someone in his cell that they knew would annoy Will, then I started thinking that he was actually an FBI agent because the questions he asked weren't lining up with the original personality he displayed earlier. I did not expect it was Will having a mental breakdown.
 
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Catching up from the last few weeks.

Watched the mid-season finale of The Walking Dead last night (a week late). The ending was a bit surprising, and a bit disappointing. I don't mind losing a main character, but it seems pointless to lose one that they've just spent 2 seasons actually giving substance to. Not sure what the reasoning is there, other than pure shock value.

My wife was chatting with a friend after it, and they both seem to think that it wasn't Dawn that did it. Wife's friend claimed that the entry wound was on the forehead, and the gun was under the chin, and that right before Daryll put Dawn's lights out Dawn mouthed "It wasn't me". I haven't found anything to corroborate this, and we had deleted the DVR by then. Anyone else see, or hear anything along these lines? Personally, I think it is a bit outlandish.
 
I thought mouthed something like "I didn't mean to."

I'd have to go back and re-watch, but that's how I remember it.

Agree with your takes.
 
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When the Will's cellmate started talking I thought it was immediately obvious that there was something off about the situation. At first I thought the jail put someone in his cell that they knew would annoy Will, then I started thinking that he was actually an FBI agent because the questions he asked weren't lining up with the original personality he displayed earlier. I did not expect it was Will having a mental breakdown.

That is what I thought as well...
 
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When the Will's cellmate started talking I thought it was immediately obvious that there was something off about the situation. At first I thought the jail put someone in his cell that they knew would annoy Will, then I started thinking that he was actually an FBI agent because the questions he asked weren't lining up with the original personality he displayed earlier. I did not expect it was Will having a mental breakdown.

I didn't have a clue until they panned across the photo from a distance while Will is packing up(not the final shot of it) and I said to myself, "Will's dad looks an awful lot like Kevin Rankin."
 
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So who's gonna be watching the remastered Wire?
 
So who's gonna be watching the remastered Wire?

I have the original. That cost me enough as it is. Though I was quoting a scene to a co-worker today. The scene where McNulty and Bunk go back to that one crime scene to take another look and use only a select few words...if you've seen it you know the one. Such a great show.
 
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Just watched the last episode of Newsroom. I had not read the comments here prior to seeing it. My take:

I have defended the show in the past, with some reservations (in particular, Sorkin's inability to write female characters as anything more than reverse-magic-pixie-girls -- they are all inane, hyper-emotional manic, superwomen-with-glass-jaws, which is as equally sexist and hideous). That defense ends tonight.

That was one of, if not the, worst episodes of television I've ever seen. Sorkin is always contrived and oblivious to his own pomposity, but this was entirely new territory, several sub-basements below anything he's done before.

Moscow / David and Maddie finally hook up -- This was the the gem of the episode, as it was abject nullity. Typically, major characters deserve better than such paint-by-numbers resolution for important romantic tension, but these two cardboard cutouts never did. The 20-somethings got their fan service and nobody was harmed, so fine, call it a push.

Princeton date rape -- Even though I have generally enjoyed the show, its maddening preachiness while winking-back-at-its-own-preachiness-to-ward-off-criticism has always been a major flaw. But until now it's been difficult to capture just what's so offensive about Newsroom's patented "serious topic delivered with rat-a-tat clever dialog" shtick. We have the ideal descriptor now: just watch this sequence. The attitude underlying the treatment of the character and the vamping of the topic to make the audience feel it is somehow breaking into deep, ambiguous, treacherous waters demonstrates the depravity of the writing staff. It's as if the editorial board from Wired was permitted into my living room. A show that continually points back at itself and embosses its conflicts with its own critical evaluation as spell-binding, disturbing, and above all subtle, rebuts itself with finality. There can be no recovery -- this was Newsroom's "tide goes in, tide goes out."

Daddy cellmate -- So Sorkin literally locks Will (himself) and an implausibly eloquent herpa-derp (his many conservative critics) in a cell and has them both chatter his self-important post-Hawksian drivel at each other, as a result of which Great Antimonies Are Explored. Now presumably this script went through many rewrites and senior editorial reviews before being greenlighted. Do you mean to tell me that not one person in the building (a) observed and (b) reported that this exchange demonstrated every stereotype of concernsplaining, not in Will's lines (though they were grating enough), nor the herpa-derp's (though they were ugly in their Tucker Carlsonesque bone-I-throw-to-you-to-demonstrate-my-superiority), but in the entire exchange and especially its lead-footed obviousness, right down to the twist reveal at the end? The complacency that lies beneath the writing of that sequence is so appalling and so heedless of its own narcissism that it could be played on continuous loop at CPAC as proof of everything they've ever said about the intellectual left. Except of course Sorkin is not even a pseudo-intellectual -- like Malcolm Gladwell or Newt Gingrich, he is simply "a dumb person's idea of what a smart person sounds like," and apparently the Hollywood production chain is populated exclusively by dumb people.

The stalker app -- I'm with B. J. Novak -- fire them all. Sloan's (an entire post could be written about how Sloan is the most sexist portrayal of a woman in television history) ridiculous diatribe was a self-parody of the innumerable Taking A Stand For Integrity soliloquies that make the show what it is for better or ill. The "punishment for celebrity" indictment and supposed social peril could easily have been spewed by a Paul Ryan, just substituting "punishment for success." Again, really, was there nobody in the room during the readings who didn't burst into laughter and break the spell?

Goodbye Charlie -- oh, for fcks sake.

In closing, there is no self-awareness within ten miles of the mindset that churned out that episode, but that's not its worst feature. Art (including rhetoric), when genuine, take the difficult and dress it up to look easy. It can do so because it taps the experience and intellect of the viewer, reader, or listener. All the richness that is in art is already in the observer. The artist, author, or composer just strings together a few apparently simple elements and unleashes the whole cascade. Whatever is paradoxical or sublime or enraged by injustice is in the engine of the observer; the artifact is only an ignition key.

In contrast, the 35 minutes of my life I'll never get back watching this was so grossly offensive because it was the easy dressed up to look hard. Every choice in this episode was cliche, mawkish, and/or third rate, but dressed up as if it was a titanic arm-wrestling of nearly balanced, Profound Truths. Given that Newsroom's only reason to exist was to chart the mechanism and the harm of us losing substance in this toilet of consumerist, lowest denominator, amused-to-death pablum that we've made for ourselves, the episode does at least give us one thing to remember: a glaring example of irony.
 
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Final Sons tonight although I won't see it till Wednesday at the soonest as my boy has a game tonight.

Have to say that last week's episode didn't do much for me.

I think they waited too long to get to the Jax/Gemma confrontation and because of that, it lacked impact. I can barely remember Tara as a part of the show and since Jax barely ever mourned or missed her, I stopped caring whether Gemma ate it in the end or not.

The killing of Wayne was gratuitous imo. I get that he was in the way, but seemed more for shock value than anything else. Or maybe just to illustrate what a shallow pos Jax has become. All of Wayne's service and help blown away in an instant.

I'm ready for this to be done and I honestly don't care if they all live or all die - kids included. There's no emotional connection for me anymore.
 
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Meh.

LOVED the first 4 seasons but haven't ever gotten through season 5. Was (is) season 6 better?

I finished 5...terrible. Have yet to even attempt and watch 6 that is how much I hated 5.

And Maize, all the proof you need your point is wrong is Kepler agrees with you. His taste in TV is legendary for sucking :D
 
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So who's gonna be watching the remastered Wire?
Never actually watched the original. I know, I know. Have to get around to it one of these days.

I finished 5...terrible. Have yet to even attempt and watch 6 that is how much I hated 5.

And Maize, all the proof you need your point is wrong is Kepler agrees with you. His taste in TV is legendary for sucking :D
They both enjoy hating on things that are popular.
 
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