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TV: The Golden Era Reborn
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: TV: The Golden Era Reborn
I have to just binge it. Each episode I've seen has been good or great except the pilot which was weak sauce and caused me to miss the entire run of the show.
That show ought to be right in the main vein.
I have to just binge it. Each episode I've seen has been good or great except the pilot which was weak sauce and caused me to miss the entire run of the show.
That show ought to be right in the main vein.
French Rage
NICKERSON HAS [CENSORED]
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Yeah NewsRadio has a fun quirkiness to it but really flew under the radar.
Yeah NewsRadio has a fun quirkiness to it but really flew under the radar.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
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Season 4 of Futurama is one of the finest seasons of television to ever be released. Jurassic Bark, Love and Rocket, The Sting, The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings. All peak television.
But make sure you take the time to have the characters grow and develop. It's hard to connect to them and get the full impact of seasons 3 and 4 of you watch the whole thing in a weekend*.
*A friend and I used to host a party called Futuramarama where we would have dozens of people over and we would watch every episode back-to-back. People would come and go when they wanted. But we would start on Friday at 7 pm and finish Sunday morning. One year we decided to try and drink 100 cups of coffee during the weekend. It's hard. To be young.
Season 4 of Futurama is one of the finest seasons of television to ever be released. Jurassic Bark, Love and Rocket, The Sting, The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings. All peak television.
But make sure you take the time to have the characters grow and develop. It's hard to connect to them and get the full impact of seasons 3 and 4 of you watch the whole thing in a weekend*.
*A friend and I used to host a party called Futuramarama where we would have dozens of people over and we would watch every episode back-to-back. People would come and go when they wanted. But we would start on Friday at 7 pm and finish Sunday morning. One year we decided to try and drink 100 cups of coffee during the weekend. It's hard. To be young.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
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I think it lost its soul when Phil Hartman was killed. It never really recovered. There were a few very good episodes, but I'm not sure I could recall a single episode post Phil.
I think it lost its soul when Phil Hartman was killed. It never really recovered. There were a few very good episodes, but I'm not sure I could recall a single episode post Phil.
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Brotherhood was a good 3 season series, unfortunately cancelled, but fortunately had a clean ending. I'd give it a B overall.
Finished ep 4 of Man Hunter. Yeah, digging the show. Not ZOMGBBQ but so worth a watch. The actress who plays Tabby is great. Leah Remini-like.
Brotherhood was a good 3 season series, unfortunately cancelled, but fortunately had a clean ending. I'd give it a B overall.
Finished ep 4 of Man Hunter. Yeah, digging the show. Not ZOMGBBQ but so worth a watch. The actress who plays Tabby is great. Leah Remini-like.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Season 4 also has The Why of Fry, The Farnsworth Parabox, and Leela's Homeworld. You are correct in that it's probably one of the best seasons in TV.
bigblue_dl
Armed
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A friend and I used to host Grey's Anatomy Thursdays. The show sucked, but it was me and my buddy drinking and watching sappy TV with about 8 girls every Thursday for about 3 years in college.
A friend and I used to host Grey's Anatomy Thursdays. The show sucked, but it was me and my buddy drinking and watching sappy TV with about 8 girls every Thursday for about 3 years in college.
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I think we're past it. As TV trends go, I think with time, what we're calling the "Golden Era" will be considered the "white male anti-hero era" that runs from the start of The Sopranos through the end of....probably Breaking Bad, maybe Boardwalk Empire. History will probably judge that era harsher than we do, just because of the reliance on white male anti-heroes.
Now we're in the era of streaming/binge watching. I wanted to say House of Cards was the start, but apparently Game of Thrones started two years prior. There just aren't many shows that can tell a good self-contained story within an hour of television. You're getting a 12-hour movie instead of 12 short stories that enhance a greater narrative, which is what the best TV can do.
Re: Sorkin
Studio 60 and Newsroom are both awful television shows, and even Sorkin himself admits that.
The biggest problem with Studio 60 was that the show's comedy sketches were supposed to be edgy, and ground-breaking and hilarious. Except that then they actually showed the sketches on the show and they were just painfully bad.
Newsroom has a similar problem. Season 1 was supposed to be a lesson on how the news should be covered(By waiting nine months to report on anything...gee thanks for that insight). After that, it became about Jeff Daniels using his show to deliver edgy, ground-breaking monologues that changed the nature of political discourse. Except that then they actually showed his monologues and it was nothing different than what you'd hear on Rachel Maddow's show any night of the week and nobody gives a **** about that.
Re: Golden Era
I think we're past it. As TV trends go, I think with time, what we're calling the "Golden Era" will be considered the "white male anti-hero era" that runs from the start of The Sopranos through the end of....probably Breaking Bad, maybe Boardwalk Empire. History will probably judge that era harsher than we do, just because of the reliance on white male anti-heroes.
Now we're in the era of streaming/binge watching. I wanted to say House of Cards was the start, but apparently Game of Thrones started two years prior. There just aren't many shows that can tell a good self-contained story within an hour of television. You're getting a 12-hour movie instead of 12 short stories that enhance a greater narrative, which is what the best TV can do.
Re: Sorkin
Studio 60 and Newsroom are both awful television shows, and even Sorkin himself admits that.
The biggest problem with Studio 60 was that the show's comedy sketches were supposed to be edgy, and ground-breaking and hilarious. Except that then they actually showed the sketches on the show and they were just painfully bad.
Newsroom has a similar problem. Season 1 was supposed to be a lesson on how the news should be covered(By waiting nine months to report on anything...gee thanks for that insight). After that, it became about Jeff Daniels using his show to deliver edgy, ground-breaking monologues that changed the nature of political discourse. Except that then they actually showed his monologues and it was nothing different than what you'd hear on Rachel Maddow's show any night of the week and nobody gives a **** about that.
bigblue_dl
Armed
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When I watch one of my favorite TV shows the last thing I want is a 1 hour contained story. Save that **** for the small minded people that watch CBS. I want a 10 hour epic movie that actually tells a detailed, complex and interesting story.
When I watch one of my favorite TV shows the last thing I want is a 1 hour contained story. Save that **** for the small minded people that watch CBS. I want a 10 hour epic movie that actually tells a detailed, complex and interesting story.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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That's not it at all. What you are calling WMAH are shows I didn't watch at all, and to me this era is the Golden Age because the explosion of all the niches allowed us to break the stranglehold of mass audience, lowest common denominator television. "Prestige" shows, a fancy way of saying shows for smart people, became possible for the first time in American television history. Markets were so fragmented that reducing the demo that could understand your show to the top 5-10% in intelligence became a viable business model. The result was shows that didn't have to slow down for the dumb to keep up, and that has made all the difference. It brought intelligent entertainment out of the art house theaters and into our homes.
That's not it at all. What you are calling WMAH are shows I didn't watch at all, and to me this era is the Golden Age because the explosion of all the niches allowed us to break the stranglehold of mass audience, lowest common denominator television. "Prestige" shows, a fancy way of saying shows for smart people, became possible for the first time in American television history. Markets were so fragmented that reducing the demo that could understand your show to the top 5-10% in intelligence became a viable business model. The result was shows that didn't have to slow down for the dumb to keep up, and that has made all the difference. It brought intelligent entertainment out of the art house theaters and into our homes.
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What Kep and bbdl said. I want to be "involved" in the story. I want to have to wait until that next episode*, I want to think about how it's gonna pan out.
*Even binging, if you bring a show that makes me say to myself, "Ok, just one more, then I'm done for today," knowing that I'm lying to myself, there's the key.
What Kep and bbdl said. I want to be "involved" in the story. I want to have to wait until that next episode*, I want to think about how it's gonna pan out.
*Even binging, if you bring a show that makes me say to myself, "Ok, just one more, then I'm done for today," knowing that I'm lying to myself, there's the key.
MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: TV: The Golden Era Reborn
Completely agree. **** an hour. Episodic dramas are so boring. Serial is the only way to go.
Completely agree. **** an hour. Episodic dramas are so boring. Serial is the only way to go.
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: TV: The Golden Era Reborn
Should have expected that the Michigan guy would get confused about a show longer than an hour. Stick to NCIS, Maize.
Should have expected that the Michigan guy would get confused about a show longer than an hour. Stick to NCIS, Maize.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
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Also agree. Episodic shows are the Twitter of the television world. Cram everything in to one episode and start over next week. The serial drama is the Ph.D. thesis answer to the 140-character episode.
Also agree. Episodic shows are the Twitter of the television world. Cram everything in to one episode and start over next week. The serial drama is the Ph.D. thesis answer to the 140-character episode.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
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