Kepler
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Re: Travel Part 2 - Where ya headed?
I can imagine. Even gay men speaking German sound like Nazis.
I can imagine. Even gay men speaking German sound like Nazis.
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Travel Part 2 - Where ya headed?
Too be fair, Austrians are like that too. They're a very uptight people, particularly out in the sticks.
Being polite to people in New York or New England is hilarious. The stick is so far up their as-s they choke on it rather than return the gesture.
One of the paradoxes of the States is the people out in Buttf-ck Stupid Country are also the most friendly, as long as you're One Of Them (which I can pass for as an old white male).
Too be fair, Austrians are like that too. They're a very uptight people, particularly out in the sticks.
Being polite to people in New York or New England is hilarious. The stick is so far up their as-s they choke on it rather than return the gesture.
One of the paradoxes of the States is the people out in Buttf-ck Stupid Country are also the most friendly, as long as you're One Of Them (which I can pass for as an old white male).
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leswp1
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Re: Travel Part 2 - Where ya headed?
We have lived in the same house for 23 yrs. Until last yr the guy who lives at the corner of my street would look like I shot him every time I waved at him. Grew up behind an AF base (in Mass) and went to school briefly on base overseas. Default in Mass is to not talk to someone for 5 yrs then maybe think about acknowledging them. This is not the way things work when people get transfered out every few yrs. it took me a very long time to figure out it wasn't me that people were being stuck up to. It was just the way they were. I talk to everyone (like I was on base, because that is how it works there) and some people just can't get over that. It weirds them out
Marine Major, Ret. When I was young he sounded scary when he was nice.
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We have lived in the same house for 23 yrs. Until last yr the guy who lives at the corner of my street would look like I shot him every time I waved at him. Grew up behind an AF base (in Mass) and went to school briefly on base overseas. Default in Mass is to not talk to someone for 5 yrs then maybe think about acknowledging them. This is not the way things work when people get transfered out every few yrs. it took me a very long time to figure out it wasn't me that people were being stuck up to. It was just the way they were. I talk to everyone (like I was on base, because that is how it works there) and some people just can't get over that. It weirds them out
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: Travel Part 2 - Where ya headed?
This must be why I seem to do so well in New York, even though I've only be there a few times. I'm perfectly comfortable trudging right through a Don't Walk sign, while I grumble something about "tourists" who just stand and wait.
This must be why I seem to do so well in New York, even though I've only be there a few times. I'm perfectly comfortable trudging right through a Don't Walk sign, while I grumble something about "tourists" who just stand and wait.
In my misspent youth, I was waiting for a walk sign on 8th Ave on the walk from the Port Authority bus station to MSG. A beat cop blew past me and muttered "What are you waiting for? Spring?" Figured it out after that.
Now, in NYC when crossing streets, if I have a clear path, I go.
Rumor has it DC cops will ticket Skywalker. I avoid DC like Kep avoids the Confederacy.
Re: Travel Part 2 - Where ya headed?
The streets in Manhattan are all one-ways, aren't they? That makes it quite a bit easier to judge when there is a safe opening.
The streets in Manhattan are all one-ways, aren't they? That makes it quite a bit easier to judge when there is a safe opening.
Most are. Because the Avenues are so wide, you have to wait. The streets are 2 open lanes wide, max.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: Travel Part 2 - Where ya headed?
Yeah, with the streets it is easy. Just carve around/through the gaggle of flyover folk standing there taking selfies and gawking up at the skyscrapers, and go.
Avenues are a little trickier, but there are few incidents that can't be resolved by giving a honking driver the New York/New Jersey salute.
Friends don't let friends stray into Times Square, especially during peak tourist times. To go to theaters/shows, walk up 8th Ave. and then cut over.
Yeah, with the streets it is easy. Just carve around/through the gaggle of flyover folk standing there taking selfies and gawking up at the skyscrapers, and go.
Avenues are a little trickier, but there are few incidents that can't be resolved by giving a honking driver the New York/New Jersey salute.
Friends don't let friends stray into Times Square, especially during peak tourist times. To go to theaters/shows, walk up 8th Ave. and then cut over.
I took the family to NYC for a day visit a few years ago. Did the usual stuff. Ground zero, Statue of Liberty, Grand Central, Battery. The fun was explaining to walk fast and don't dawdle else you'd get run over.
The subway system was a novel experience for those used to the DC Metro. We had to switch from an uptown express to a downtown local to get to our stop. This was beyond my wife's comprehension. After I showed her the map, I then explained we had to go up a flight of stairs and the down another and to do it quickly if we wanted to catch the train. Again another level of incomprehension.
She's not going to NYC again.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Really???
Part of the big reason to go there is BECAUSE OF the people.
And Mookie is kind everywhere, whether appreciated or not. All of mookie's efforts are inward directed behavior-- mookie is who he is because mookie likes it
He doesn't care how others take it
Re: Travel Part 2 - Where ya headed?
That's mookie. What about you?
Really???
Part of the big reason to go there is BECAUSE OF the people.
And Mookie is kind everywhere, whether appreciated or not. All of mookie's efforts are inward directed behavior-- mookie is who he is because mookie likes it
He doesn't care how others take it
That's mookie. What about you?
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: Travel Part 2 - Where ya headed?
Yes, just not the ones in Times Square.
Walk over into Hell's Kitchen, meet real people, eat real food - pretty simple, and not a strenuous walk even for the average middle American. Night and day difference.
Yes, just not the ones in Times Square.
Walk over into Hell's Kitchen, meet real people, eat real food - pretty simple, and not a strenuous walk even for the average middle American. Night and day difference.
Re: Travel Part 2 - Where ya headed?
Do both.
There's no good reason to avoid Times Square if you are a tourist. Just like there are good reasons to go to many other areas in Manhattan.
Why restrict yourself?
Do both.
There's no good reason to avoid Times Square if you are a tourist. Just like there are good reasons to go to many other areas in Manhattan.
Why restrict yourself?
Re: Travel Part 2 - Where ya headed?
Exactly. It's like refusing to go to Bourbon Street on your first visit to New Orleans or skipping the beach the first time you see Miami.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Travel Part 2 - Where ya headed?
No. Times Square is awful. It's one of those ultra famous places that's still not worth visiting, like Pike Place in Seattle, Circus Circus in Vegas now that it s-cks, or Faneuil Hall. You're not getting any experience in those places except an ironic, once-removed experience of the fame and recognition of the place, which you can get just by looking at it on TV. You don't actually see anything authentic at all.
NYC has 10,000 fascinating places to go, including just making a random turn and walking and watching. Don't bother with what is just a glorified ESPNZone.
No. Times Square is awful. It's one of those ultra famous places that's still not worth visiting, like Pike Place in Seattle, Circus Circus in Vegas now that it s-cks, or Faneuil Hall. You're not getting any experience in those places except an ironic, once-removed experience of the fame and recognition of the place, which you can get just by looking at it on TV. You don't actually see anything authentic at all.
NYC has 10,000 fascinating places to go, including just making a random turn and walking and watching. Don't bother with what is just a glorified ESPNZone.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: Travel Part 2 - Where ya headed?
Pike Place is worth it, just don't spend a whole day there. You meant to say the Space Needle.
Pike Place is worth it, just don't spend a whole day there. You meant to say the Space Needle.
Re: Travel Part 2 - Where ya headed?
Sorry- but let the traveler decide.
The world isn't up to your opinion. Some people like to see the big ball of twine. Others can see through the fluff around Faneil Hall and see the history that is there- so let them.
Seems like your problem that you can't get a decent experience.
Sorry- but let the traveler decide.
The world isn't up to your opinion. Some people like to see the big ball of twine. Others can see through the fluff around Faneil Hall and see the history that is there- so let them.
Seems like your problem that you can't get a decent experience.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Travel Part 2 - Where ya headed?
True story. Looking up at the Space Needle was the last time I passed out. I'm pretty f-cking afraid of heights. I distinctly remember being out in the backyard of my house when I was about 7 and looking up at a 747, and then suddenly feeling like I was out on the wing looking dow--- (thunk).
So I, ya know, avoid heights. I haven't had many bad spells as an adult: once while flying for probably the hundredth time suddenly being fixated on falling (thunk) and another time at the then Sears Tower looking down on the famous skydeck floor (vomit; thunk). The very last time was around '99, just at the base of the Space Needle (which BTW is rundown and seedy as sh-t) and then imagining suddenly climbing up on the outside... (you know).
Also, yeah, the Space Needle sucks, and so does that silly urban monorail thingy that only goes about 200 feet. The thing to do in Seattle is go out to the gardens (name?) and look back to view the city and Rainier in the distance. You can only do it about 100 days a year because of the clouds, but when you see it you'll bust a nut it's so lovely.
True story. Looking up at the Space Needle was the last time I passed out. I'm pretty f-cking afraid of heights. I distinctly remember being out in the backyard of my house when I was about 7 and looking up at a 747, and then suddenly feeling like I was out on the wing looking dow--- (thunk).
So I, ya know, avoid heights. I haven't had many bad spells as an adult: once while flying for probably the hundredth time suddenly being fixated on falling (thunk) and another time at the then Sears Tower looking down on the famous skydeck floor (vomit; thunk). The very last time was around '99, just at the base of the Space Needle (which BTW is rundown and seedy as sh-t) and then imagining suddenly climbing up on the outside... (you know).
Also, yeah, the Space Needle sucks, and so does that silly urban monorail thingy that only goes about 200 feet. The thing to do in Seattle is go out to the gardens (name?) and look back to view the city and Rainier in the distance. You can only do it about 100 days a year because of the clouds, but when you see it you'll bust a nut it's so lovely.
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Travel Part 2 - Where ya headed?
No. I have been sent here to order all your lives!
No. I have been sent here to order all your lives!
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