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Transfer Portal - 2024

So the Big ten schools have limited amount of scholarships/money they can dole out. The ivies don't do scholarships they just give you financial aid. How do the Hockey East and CHA teams that aren't affiliated with Ivy's or the Big 10 handle athletic scholarships?

Isn't the number of players in the portal simply 1- a function of lack of money and roster space due to the fifth year COVID thing? 2-marginal players looking for a greener grass when they were probably lucky to be where they were at to begin with?
 
Timothy A said:
So the Big ten schools have limited amount of scholarships/money they can dole out. The ivies don't do scholarships they just give you financial aid. How do the Hockey East and CHA teams that aren't affiliated with Ivy's or the Big 10 handle athletic scholarships?

Isn't the number of players in the portal simply 1- a function of lack of money and roster space due to the fifth year COVID thing? 2-marginal players looking for a greener grass when they were probably lucky to be where they were at to begin with?
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My guess is most the teams get the full allowed amount by NCAA - 18 scholarships and then the coach decides how to hand them out. So many of these players seem brilliant; a lot of them may qualify for other academic scholarships.

I agree with your assessment of the players in the portal. I doubt the grass is greener for most players and wonder if some of them just don’t use out the rest of their eligibility.

as an fyi the CHA got a name change and is now the AHA. Merged with a men’s league for operations.
 
I suspect some posters are overlooking money related aspects that could lead to the portal. For example, the high school player from out west who only considered eastern teams because her parents would not be able to come to see many/any games might decide after a year or two in college that having her parents come visit wasn't a bad thing after all. Heck, I remember changing schools and majors (and foregoing a scholarship in the process) after realizing the career I had aimed for was not what I really wanted.

And as long as I am here, I wanted to comment about a post I saw a couple of weeks ago about some sports team making a profit. That would have been a serious mistake by the AD if true. Most (if not all) colleges and universities classify themselves as non-profits. As such, they have to offset every dollar of income with a dollar of "expense". Failure to do so would mean that donors to the school would lose the tax benefit they accrue with the donation. So every program has to create a couple of business units that are for-profit and can charge the non-profit entities for services rendered. For athletics, if you look at the cost an average student pays for classes and housing and meals (lets say $20,000) the "cost" of the equivalent services for an athlete will be listed at one and a half to twice that amount (say $37,000 in my example). So what are the profit centers in a typical university? Back when I last looked at this, university doctors were for-profit but university hospitals were not. There will be a for-profit business unit that owns all the copyrights and other income producing intellectual properties. University police and maintenance, facilities, travel agency, and a handful of others will all be for-profit.

Anyway, TMI for any one post.
 
Yes, each school is allowed to fund up to 18 scholarships. There was a time not to long ago that some schools were not funding all 18. I don't think that is the case anymore.

I think the best gauge is to take a look at the roster size on what the school is doing.

The larger the roster, the more partials.

I still see a lot of girls that could help out a lot of teams. Boucher will definitely help UNH would be an example.

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robertearle said:
Yesterday was the last day for players to enter the portal. There could have been some last minute entrants whose names would not show up on the web site lists yet, but otherwise the lists there are the lists.

(I'm a little surprised how many there are there who haven't yet committed to a new school. At least not 'officially'.)

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And minutes after I post this, Olivia Mobley from Ohio State and Emily Zumwinkle from Minnesota show up in the portal. 5th year scholarship squeeze?

(And Ohio State's forward problem just got worse.)
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Looks like OSU fixed the forward problem. Wheeler now a Buckeye...
 
Sierra said:
Looks like OSU fixed the forward problem. Wheeler now a Buckeye...
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That gets you from 10 to 11 on the roster; sort of cancels out losing Mobley this week. It clearly helps, but going into a season with only 11 forwards can turn into a big problem if you get hit with any kind of injuries/illness, etc.
 
robertearle said:
That gets you from 10 to 11 on the roster; sort of cancels out losing Mobley this week. It clearly helps, but going into a season with only 11 forwards can turn into a big problem if you get hit with any kind of injuries/illness, etc.
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Maybe true. Maybe OSU is not done yet... that's why it's the off-season. OSU is always working.
 
Sierra said:
Maybe true. Maybe OSU is not done yet... that's why it's the off-season. OSU is always working.
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Ohio State may not be done yet, but entries into the portal are. The list of available transfers is now fully known, and I'll dare say that the entries over the last couple weeks - outside of Wheeler and Mobley - haven't been all that impressive. Of course there are S-As still available; the question is the talent level.
 
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Sierra said:
Wheeler playing in the WCHA makes her the best available. The WCHA is where the best compete.
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Likely 1st pick in the PWHL draft coming out of the ECAC. And don't lay claim to Bilka & Barnes either ... vast majority of their college careers played outside of the WCHA. Sure ... WCHA has a really strong top 3. (wink) (big smile)
 
Heynow said:
To my knowledge the best F in the portal, Natalie Mylinkova, has not committed yet.
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[Edited] Early on, Grant (aka TonyTheTiger) posted that she was maybe headed to Duluth. But yes, curious she has not committed somewhere.
 
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BackyardIce said:
Likely 1st pick in the PWHL draft coming out of the ECAC. And don't lay claim to Bilka & Barnes either ... vast majority of their college careers played outside of the WCHA. Sure ... WCHA has a really strong top 3. (wink) (big smile)
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B and B did more under OSU than at BC ... OSU makes players better ... FACT!!! Go BUCKS
 
Hockeybuckeye said:
I don't get what point you're trying to make?
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He's using two examples to claim that "OSU makes players better" is a "FACT!!!"

If you want to use specific examples to derive a general truth, you better hope there aren't counter-examples. I knew of two such counter-examples off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more.
 
OldDave said:
And as long as I am here, I wanted to comment about a post I saw a couple of weeks ago about some sports team making a profit. That would have been a serious mistake by the AD if true. Most (if not all) colleges and universities classify themselves as non-profits. As such, they have to offset every dollar of income with a dollar of "expense". Failure to do so would mean that donors to the school would lose the tax benefit they accrue with the donation. So every program has to create a couple of business units that are for-profit and can charge the non-profit entities for services rendered. For athletics, if you look at the cost an average student pays for classes and housing and meals (lets say $20,000) the "cost" of the equivalent services for an athlete will be listed at one and a half to twice that amount (say $37,000 in my example). So what are the profit centers in a typical university? Back when I last looked at this, university doctors were for-profit but university hospitals were not. There will be a for-profit business unit that owns all the copyrights and other income producing intellectual properties. University police and maintenance, facilities, travel agency, and a handful of others will all be for-profit.

Anyway, TMI for any one post.
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Non-profits can make a profit (heck, look at churches). It's what they do with the profit that is important in order to maintain their IRS non-profit status.

https://www.councilofnonprofits.org/about-americas-nonprofits/myths-about-nonprofits
 
Reddington said:
Yes, the amount of girls still out in the portal is an enigma. I would be interested in hearing theories on this.
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I would like to see the data year on year before I consider it an enigma. At this stage of the portal, is the number still not committed the usual amount any other year at this stage? Less? More? Without that data, we can't consider it to be an oddity or not.
 
robertearle said:
He's using two examples to claim that "OSU makes players better" is a "FACT!!!"

If you want to use specific examples to derive a general truth, you better hope there aren't counter-examples. I knew of two such counter-examples off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more.
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How about 8 years ....
 
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