Re: The University of Notre Dame Hockey: 09-10. Let's Live It Up!
Troll alert, JJFP! Troll alert, JJFP!!
Do not mind me when I say it is downright embarrassing for someone who fashions herself an expert beyond reproach to not know that a 5-minute checking from behind penalty brings with it an automatic 10 minute muisconduct penalty. .
And on that point, Grantfan, you are incorrect. A 10 minute misconduct penalty is exactly that, 10 minutes. The penalized player sits in the penalty box for 10 minutes and is allowed out at the next stoppage of play. Major penalties, such as checking from behind, butt ending, spearing, kneeing, were originally considered penalties that had an intent to injure to them, and that is what constituted the major assessment. If you draw blood on the opponent with a penalty that wouldn't normally be a major, such as high sticking, it also becomes a major penalty. All major penalties come with a game ejection, either in the form of a game misconduct, which means the player is gone for the rest of the game, or a game disqualification, which means the person is gone for that game and additional, following, games. In other words, not a 10 minute misconduct. Game misconducts and game disqualifications do not have a minute length assessed to them and the length of the disqualificaiton is not reflected in penalty minutes assessed on the person for a season because they can occur at any point in a game. They also do not appear in the total penalty minutes assessed in the box score So, Ryan's CFB was assessed a 2 minute minor for the CFB and the automatic 5 minute major, both of which which appeared in the box score. He also received a 10 minute misconduct penalty which again, has a finite time length, and will appear in the box score. The 10 minute misconduct was not for the CFB or the major penalty assessed, it was from an imprudent comment to the referee, or as JJfP put it, he continued to yap when he should have just kept his mouth shut.
Overall, my hunch is that Coach Jackson, who has gone on record as saying he can abuse the refs but the players cannot, took exception to Ryan's behavior and added his own, additional, punishment. Whether this exception extended to the next night or whether Ryan did have some euphemous upper body injury, we will likely never know, unless Ryan himself tells us, and I doubt this will happen, because he is basically a pretty upstanding kid not normally given to whining or making excuses for himself. As well, Coach Jackson has had a policy all along that if you do receive a misconduct penalty he will also assess punishment and that punishment, in the bucket load of years that I've known him, has been to sit the offender down for the next game. Since Coach Jackson and I were in school at Michigan State at the same time, and I worked for the Michigan State team as an assistant manager, that will give you an idea of the bucketload of time.
Now, in this next point, I am no longer entirely clear on the rules, since for some god awful silly reason, the NCAA seems wont to tinker with the rules year in and year out. Probably just to confuse us. But, my understanding is that major penalties, such as checking from behind, are escalating penalties. So, the first time in the year it happens you are gone for the rest of the game. Happens a 2nd time, you are gone for the game and the next game, happens a 3rd time, gone for the game and 2 additional games. Because different refs work games (I can hear the Thank the Lord, we couldn't tolerate having Shegos every single game), and are never sure who has done what from game to game (oh, let's be honest, for the most they aren't sure who has done what during the game itself), the escalating portion of the penalty is a league assessment, not a referee assessment. So, while Ryan's major got him booted from the game, the league would have cross referenced his major penalty in the game with previously played games this year and they would have discovered the other major penalty, and would have then handed Ryan the note saying he couldn't play the next game either. And those additional games carry over until you have sat for each and every one of them. So, if you are undisciplined enough to amass 5 majors in a year, and you get your 5th one on the last day of the season, you are going to be sitting on the bench the start of the next season as well. If memory serves, that escalating rule actually has a name, it's known as the Gretzky rule, and was instituted in an effort to stop a teams goon from going after the opposing team's best player in an effort to negate that best players impact on the game being played. I'm pretty certain that boys being boys, someone would have thought, hmm take out that 100 goal scorer early in the game, gives us a fighting chance in the game, and I just sit for the rest of the game, but since I took out that 100 goal scorer I would be a hero to my team. And they would do it game in and game out. For some reason, I'm having images of my beloved Basil McRae.....Anyway, I digress. It's one thing to take someone out if you are just going to sit for the rest of the game and get to play tomorrow like nothing happened, it's quite another to take someone out if you know you are going to sit for that game and the next 3, because you lost your marbles on 3 previous occasions.
And don't waste your breath trying to flame me Grantfan, I'm headed to my beloved Ireland, where unlike Yue, I struggle to get a stream of the games because eircom sucks, so I don't even bother.
