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The UND Discussion Thread - We Miss Chay

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Dave Hakstol on the NCAA regional and facing Yale. I'm convinced that the only way to get Dave Hakstol to smile is win an NCAA championship.;)

O.K., yes the guy has done a great job, but if it was revealed that he was a James Cameron generated cyborg would anyone be even slightly surprised? His cyborg name should be something like the Clichematron. He makes the Dean Blais look like Rick Flair on crystal meth.
 
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You just described 99.99999% of your local fan base.

Weekend of the West Reg. at the REA (we won't talk about the outcome) I stop at Super Pumper on 32ave and a dude walks in w/ the most obnoxious leather letterman's style Sioux Hockey jacket on and I said "Michigan bring enough to give you a game tonight???"

Super fan looks me dead in the eye and says "WHAT GAME???"......I just looked at him and said "Sir, you just made my day" and laughed as I walked out.

True story...


Duey, I couldnt find the Chevy Chase video clip, but I did get you a t-shirt
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Leave Brittany/Duey alone!!! (sobbing) ;)


Really? No...seriously....really? This coming from a guy who chose a msg board name "Blackheart" because maybe it sounded scary or had a some obscure Sioux reference. Either way, it's embarrassing and you should probably change it.


Petey....you're probably right, math wasn't my strongest subject. Then again I was never really strong in any sujects.....I was too busy giving guys Blackheart swirlies and stealing his girlfriend.
 
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Really? No...seriously....really? This coming from a guy who chose a msg board name "Blackheart" because maybe it sounded scary or had a some obscure Sioux reference. Either way, it's embarrassing and you should probably change it.

You are named after one of Scrooge McDuck's nephews, you probably shouldn't say anything about other's names.
 
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You are named after one of Scrooge McDuck's nephews, you probably shouldn't say anything about other's names.

Fail




Petey....I thought these USCHO und guys had some game? This is like facing Kangas in a shootout.
 
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Perhaps you're this guy?
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I'm convinced that the only way to get Dave Hakstol to smile is win an NCAA championship.;)
Nah. This works, too. Watch Hak's face at the 1:46 mark. ;)

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Fail




Petey....I thought these USCHO und guys had some game? This is like facing Kangas in a shootout.

You are the best!! Please PM me if you have any more good names. How about Skidmark or are you already using that on another board?
 
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Nah. This works, too. Watch Hak's face at the 1:46 mark. ;)

I think that's Hakstol doing his best Richard Nixon impression. I like the girl snarling at her boyfriend at the 1:55 mark. "You promised me tonsil hockey if the Sioux won, not a bear hug nitwit!":D
 
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Hak smiled last year when he hoisted the regular season championship trophy and the crowd went bonkers. (well it was at least a look of happiness)
 
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Weekly update from Brad:

We had our last Grand Forks media day session prior to the start of the NCAA tournament.

There, UND coach Dave Hakstol said that it's too early to tell whether Joe Gleason will be available for the Yale game on Saturday. He said that Gleason has improved from last week, but the team will take things day by day.

Hakstol also said that time is running short, but the team isn't ready to rule out a return for captain Chay Genoway just yet. It's not looking great, but UND hopes there are still a couple of weeks left in the year.

Speaking of Genoway, look for a story on him in tomorrow's Herald. There are some pretty interesting notes in the story. I think it also explains some of this late-season charge. I talked to his teammates and coach Hakstol about the situation.

I also talked to Brent Davidson about his move back to defense and he was very interesting. He said he talked to four people right before he played his first game back there against Michigan Tech. Who gave him the best advice? Brad Miller. There should be more on Davidson on Friday or Saturday.

The other story this week is about Evan Trupp, who continues to amaze with his dazzling moves. Everyone says Trupp tries these moves during Can-Am Games.

Photographer Eric Hylden and I are scheduled to be in Worcester in time for practice and the press conferences on Friday. There's not a whole lot more to ask the guys, but we'll be there to report the happenings, barring any travel problems.

Can't wait to read the article on Genoway.
That's crazy to think that they would consider bringing him back to the lineup if they make it to the F4...for just one or two games?
 
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Hak makes final 4 in CHN's Coach of the Year award. Kristo makes final 3 in CHN's Rookie of the Year.

Hak

Kristo
 
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Weekly update from Brad:



Can't wait to read the article on Genoway.
That's crazy to think that they would consider bringing him back to the lineup if they make it to the F4...for just one or two games?

I would guess that all things considered, Chay might want to move on to start his pro career.
 
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Weekly update from Brad:



Can't wait to read the article on Genoway.
That's crazy to think that they would consider bringing him back to the lineup if they make it to the F4...for just one or two games?

I would guess that all things considered, Chay might want to move on to start his pro career.

If Genoway has decided not to come back next year, and if he is in shape to play now, why not? I think the boost to the team would be incredible!
 
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Here's an article from today's GF Herald on the nickname issue:


One of the questions in the state Supreme Court hearing Tuesday involving UND’s Fighting Sioux nickname is what the state’s intent was when it agreed to the settlement with the NCAA in October 2007?

The NCAA didn’t want UND to use the nickname because it considers American Indian nicknames offensive.

According to Solicitor General Doug Bahr, UND only wanted to neutralize the NCAA policy of sanctioning schools with such nicknames. That is, UND wanted to have other options, and one of those is to win the support of the state’s two Sioux tribes.

Under questioning by justices Tuesday, he went so far as to say that even if the state hypothetically got that support today, it could still retire the nickname tomorrow if it wanted.

According to attorney Lolita Romanick, who represents nickname supporters from one of those tribes, the Spirit Lake Dakotah Nation, UND didn’t want other options. It wanted to keep the nickname and, to do that, it wanted to give the tribes a chance to weigh in.

The difference of intent would, respectively, either allow the State Board of Higher Education to change the nickname whenever it pleases — the board indicated it would be pleased to change the nickname months ago — or require the board to keep the nickname until Nov. 30, 2010, the settlement deadline with the NCAA, so that the tribes have time to weigh in.

Questioned by justices, Romanick said the board could get tribal support and decide to retire the nickname anyway, but the board would have to wait until Nov. 30.

Tuesday’s hearing before the state Supreme Court is the culmination of a lawsuit that the Spirit Lake nickname supporters filed in fall 2009 against the state to prevent the board from retiring the nickname before the deadline. A district judge in Devils Lake ruled for the state.

The Supreme Court adjourned Tuesday without a decision, as it usually does. It will issue a written decision later.

The context

The problem is, what many assumed would happen in 2007 — that the state would fight tooth and nail to win support for the nickname — didn’t quite happen. And the settlement may or may not have reflected that assumption.

One Supreme Court justice distinguished between “actual intent” and the intent embodied in the settlement, the point being the intent in the settlement is what matters in this case.

The reason the state board hasn’t been so hot about the nickname recently is UND wants a quick resolution to the controversy. Administrators want to join the Summit League athletic conference, which it considers crucial to its success in the transition to Division I athletics. But the league won’t consider UND’s membership until the nickname issue is resolved.

In the meantime, even though the Spirit Lake tribe approved the nickname with 67 percent of voters in support, the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe has, until very recently, appeared to have made zero progress toward a decision.

Nickname supporters there only submitted Monday a petition to the Tribal Council to put the nickname on the ballot.

The apparent lack of progress and the potential opportunity cost of not getting into the Summit League in a timely fashion set the state board’s priorities.

The Spirit Lake nickname supporters, fearing their work in rallying voters would be for naught, sued the state and caused the board to not retire the nickname until the lawsuit was settled.

A key question

So, back to the question of intent.

In line with her argument, Romanick asserted that because the intention in the settlement was to win support of the tribes, which essentially promises the tribes they would have until Nov. 30 to make a decision on the nickname. In doing that, they made the tribes beneficiaries of the settlement. They had a right speak and be heard by the board, not have the board decide before they can do so.

The plaintiffs seeks, she said, “to have the State Board of Higher Education seriously consider, value, honor and respect our input and to seek our input, the input of the Sioux people of North Dakota.”

One place in the settlement where that’s noted is a clause that says “Whereas, UND recognizes North Dakota Sioux tribes … have important contributions in determining whether, to what extent and in what manner ‘Sioux’ name and the ‘Fighting Sioux’ nickname and logo should continue to be used…”

Bahr disagreed. The “whereas” clause is just part of the preamble and is nonbinding. Unlike Romanick, he made a point of limiting intent to only what’s explicitly stated in the settlement rather than the broader context leading up to the settlement.

In fact, he argued, there are no third-party beneficiaries. The tribes might be incidental beneficiaries, but the intent was never to make them beneficiaries.

The settlement is between two parties, he said: UND and the NCAA. The dispute the settlement resolved was whether the NCAA had the right to apply its policy of sanctioning universities using Indian nicknames to UND. UND had sued the NCAA to prevent the sanctions.

The settlement gives UND a grace period during which the NCAA cannot sanction it and extends that grace period if the university wins tribal approval, Bahr argued.

“This issue was not about the State Board of Higher Education’s authority to change the name,” he said. “It was about implementation of the NCAA policy.”

The tribes, he said, were never involved in that original lawsuit against the NCAA.
 
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Hi, been a while since I posted in here. Getting excited to watch the boys against Yale :D



Woah woah woah....You're a Sue fan and a Packers fan?? That's like peanut butter and Jelly, or Oreo's and Milk!!!!

Ever have one of the moments when one little thing puts everything into perspective and the world just makes sense????? This is mine.....

Yes, I am a SIOUX and a Packer fan, thank you :D
Not totally sure what the 2nd part is about, but ok...
 
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