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The UND Discussion Thread - We Miss Chay

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jdr1 said:
just a quick ?, what is going on here? first fienhage sits out for davidson then Marto has a "injury" and Chay is working out!!! This is starting to smell like CHAY is coming back this year...
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To me, it smells like:

1. Marto got hurt Friday and he was held out Saturday largely as a precaution. Hak said he expects Marto to be able to play next weekend.

2. Davidson has been practicing as a defenseman for the past two months. That makes a lot of sense because with the injury to Genoway, the Sioux would be hurting at that position if they lost another D-man. With the injury to Marto, that proved a smart move. It was a good time to get Davidson some in-game experience.

3. The focus now is on getting Genoway back for this season. I don't think the first two points have anything to do with the third.
 
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PCM said:
To me, it smells like:

1. Marto got hurt Friday and he was held out Saturday largely as a precaution. Hak said he expects Marto to be able to play next weekend.

2. Davidson has been practicing as a defenseman for the past two months. That makes a lot of sense because with the injury to Genoway, the Sioux would be hurting at that position if they lost another D-man. With the injury to Marto, that proved a smart move. It was a good time to get Davidson some in-game experience.

3. The focus now is on getting Genoway back for this season. I don't think the first two points have anything to do with the third.
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I hope he comes back for the push for #8... He will help so much.. just him being on the bench will be huge!!!!

But no matter what LETS GO SIOUX!!!!! send them gophers where they belong on the golfcorse!!!!!:D :D :D
 
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Interesting article about hockey players and concussions in the Winnipeg Free Press. Chay Genoway's situation is mentioned.

Heading for trouble: A concussion can mean it's safest to hang up the skates
Concussion in hockey is pervasive and it's constantly ruining careers.

The risks of repeated concussions have only come into focus in recent years, and still much isn't known. But medical experts and researchers have seen evidence that depression, cognitive deficit, behaviour changes, epilepsy, dementia and even Alzheimer's disease could be in play.
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I thought Davidson was fine on the blueline this weekend. Obviously he's not ready to log 30 minutes a game or quarterback the pp fulltime back there, but he wasn't completely overmatched either.

This is going to be a very tough match up for the Sioux this weekend. It's kind of strange how it worked out, but a lot of the first round matchups turned out to be tough ones for the home team. UAA has had some great first round matchups in Madison in the past and Mankato has owned SCSU.

I will be shocked if this series doesn't go 3 games. MN has absolutely nothing to lose and will be a very, very tough out.
 
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is there anyone aware of a book on the Sioux/gopher rivalry? I've seen a book about the gophers and some other team they're rivals with, I don't recall if it was even hockey. I thought it would be interesting to have a book about the rivalry.
 
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With UND 1st round playoff matchups at the REA, it usually goes one of two different ways:

Option 1:
UND loses the first game, then comes back and wins the next two games to advance.

Option 2:
UND wins the first game easily, then wins a very close (sometimes OT) game to advance.

Either way, it's hard to end a team's season (if it was MTU, like in year's past), so I don't envision UMN going lightly either.
 
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PCM said:
You're right, and it's not odd at all. Chay's a smart kid and good student. If he can graduate this spring, why not move on with his hockey career? A hit from behind at UMD in 2008 nearly ended his season early. A hit from behind in 2010 did. He knows about Robbie Bina and Derrick Lapoint. If I were him, I'd be thinking twice about whether I wanted to play another season in the WCHA and having my hockey career permanently ended.
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I agree if the refs and the WCHA league office can't protect the players the WCHA might lose out on getting more talented players in the future.
 
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Goon said:
I agree if the refs and the WCHA league office can't protect the players the WCHA might lose out on getting more talented players in the future.
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If the refs and the WCHA league office can't protect the players perhaps the courts can.

Would be interesting to see what would happen if a player that was struck in the head from behind filed: 1) criminal assault charges against another WCHA hockey player; 2) filed sut for damages against the NCAA, the WCHA, the officials, and the schools involved; and 3) filed for injunctive relief to prevent unpermitted head shots or boarding from behind.
 
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PCM said:
Interesting article about hockey players and concussions in the Winnipeg Free Press. Chay Genoway's situation is mentioned.

Heading for trouble: A concussion can mean it's safest to hang up the skates
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Upgrading the standards for hockey helmets may be a step in the right direction?
http://www.globe-democrat.com/news/2010/mar/08/inside-nhl-mark-messier-leading-campaign-safer-hel/

Mark Messier who is promoting safer hockey helmets (Cascade M11) has some notable quotes on this subject:

"We spent all our money on technology, on skates and sticks and equipment,” he said, “but none of the money’s been spent on headgear, which is probably our most important piece of equipment.”

"I think hockey players are 25 times more likely to have a concussion than a football player,” Messier told CBS SportsLine. “I don’t know how many times I was actually concussed. I know I was knocked out a few times and dazed several times, but I was able to get back and play. That’s not the case for everyone.”

"Mike Richter had small children, but couldn’t even pick up his own baby for the longest time without feeling dizziness and nausea,” Messier told the Globe and Mail. He said Beukeboom has suffered bouts of depression and Richter still cannot lift weights without feeling sick.

“When you see close friends of yours hurt to that degree, you wonder what could have been done,” said Messier."
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Maybe now is the time to adopt improved helmet standards for in the WCHA?
Is the new Cascade M11 safer?

What helmets do the Sioux players use?
 
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SoCalSiouxFan said:
Maybe now is the time to adopt improved helmet standards for in the WCHA?
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I think it was Tim Hennessy who interviewed Brett Bruneteau between periods during one of the games at CC. He talked about his concussion and how he now wears a special helmet. He thought it would be a good idea for all players to wear them.
 
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SoCalSiouxFan said:
What helmets do the Sioux players use?
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I believe they're RBK 8K series. They use the EPP padding system which is padding designed to take one massive blow and then be replaced. It's a good system as long as you replace it when necessary.

Bruneteau is wearing a special helmet and a special mouthguard to protect against another Grade 3 concussion like he suffered in the USHL.

Harvard has been wearing Cascade M11 helmets this year as part of the Messier Project.
 
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Bruneteau in his special helmet.
 
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For those in the TC or otherwise able to watch the MN HS Hockey Tourney, Sioux recruit Brock Nelson (F) will be in action tonight as his Warroad Warriors take on Rochester Lourdes in the first-round of the Class A tournament.

Nelson scored 47 goals and added 38 assists for Warroad this season.
 
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Jim Dahl, ss.com PWR genius, goes over the possibilities for this weekend's series against UMN:

http://blog.siouxsports.com/2010/03/11/wcha-play-in-weekend-pwr-possibilities/

Overall Analysis

* If UND sweeps, the Sioux could finish the weekend #3 (2% chance).
* Even if UND were to get swept, the Sioux would be positioned for a pretty much guaranteed NCAA tournament berth if the season ended this weekend (>99% chance of being 11th or higher)
* Leaving this weekend a #1 seed is: 45% chance if the Sioux sweep, a 7% chance if the Sioux win in 3

Crazy Stuff

* If swept, the Sioux could still leave the weekend with a 1 seed. In one scenario out of a million, UND gets swept and finishes #4
* If swept, the Sioux have an equal chance (one scenario out of a million) to leave the weekend #13 and in peril of missing the NCAA tournament
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They are doing a pretty good advertising campaing for the Messier project during the MN high school tourny. It seems like a really good thing.
 
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