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The Stock Market thread: BUY! BUY! BUY! Sell, sell, sell...

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DrDemento said:
Everything you have posted has made a tremendous amount of sense. I simply was demonstrating what MO has done for me over the past 20 years. I still hold some but not nearly what I have had in the past. I have some PM also. I am very nervous about this market and although considerably invested, I diversify into so many industries and instruments it is hard to even keep track some times. As they always say, past performance is in no way a guarantee of the future. I have had lots of successes (and a fairly large number of failures) over the years. MO has been one of my best long term holds.
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If they had not spun off Kraft and Philip Morris International it would be a totally different issue, as things stand they have reduced the company down to just the US tobacco interests, which I don't consider as a very attractive investment. A nice dividend now, but terrible long term prospects.
 
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DrDemento said:
Everything you have posted has made a tremendous amount of sense. I simply was demonstrating what MO has done for me over the past 20 years. I still hold some but not nearly what I have had in the past. I have some PM also. I am very nervous about this market and although considerably invested, I diversify into so many industries and instruments it is hard to even keep track some times. As they always say, past performance is in no way a guarantee of the future. I have had lots of successes (and a fairly large number of failures) over the years. MO has been one of my best long term holds.
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Doesn't mean it is now. WY was great in the 80's and 90's, not so much now. One thing that is a good idea, though, is although you want to stay diversified, remember that you aren't a mutual fund (even if you are like what I'll probably be in retirement if I get there). If you can't track news on your companies once every month and financials every quarter, it probably isn't worth investing, and you're better off putting that money on the blackjack table. At least you have someone that is able to help you with this by managing your account, but it's still no excuse to not keep up yourself.
 
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DrDemento said:
Flash-looks like the unemployment numbers may be considerably inaccurate as they do not include the largest state number-California. That might change the numbers considerably. Now how does that kind of thing happen? And why shouldn't that have been made public before the market opened when the numbers were announced?
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How does that happen? Remember who reports, and whose job is at stake.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
You certainly shouldn't make a decision on a long-term investment based upon a day-to-day fluctuation, otherwise it isn't a long-term investment. However, sometimes even the quarter is too late. I'd recommend looking every 1-2 weeks or so, but no less frequent than a month. Most of all, though... ALWAYS STICK TO YOUR PLAN. Short term investment, plus good or bad news, does NOT mean it is a long term investment.
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I disagree, regardless of what a stock has done over a 2 week or even a month period, unless the underlying foundation for why I invested in that stock has changed I have no reason to make any change that quickly. In fact, I couldn't even properly evaluate all my holding every few weeks and still have time for other important leisure activities.
 
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Almington said:
I disagree, regardless of what a stock has done over a 2 week or even a month period, unless the underlying foundation for why I invested in that stock has changed I have no reason to make any change that quickly. In fact, I couldn't even properly evaluate all my holding every few weeks and still have time for other important leisure activities.
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Leisure activities? What are those? :D

If it has worked for you, go for it. It's your money.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
How does that happen? Remember who reports, and whose job is at stake.
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Please-the jobs report came out before the first debate and was suspect. Now the unemployment number comes out the morning of the VP debate and is very suspect. Draw your own conclusions. I have my own thoughts.
 
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DrDemento said:
Please-the jobs report came out before the first debate and was suspect. Now the unemployment number comes out the morning of the VP debate and is very suspect. Draw your own conclusions. I have my own thoughts.
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Exactly my point.
 
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Almington said:
I disagree, regardless of what a stock has done over a 2 week or even a month period, unless the underlying foundation for why I invested in that stock has changed I have no reason to make any change that quickly. In fact, I couldn't even properly evaluate all my holding every few weeks and still have time for other important leisure activities.
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Great plan. Buffet and Lynch style of investing. Although Intel looks tempting at this price even if Buffet did dump all of his holdings recently.

http://beta.fool.com/insidermonkey/...nt/14274/?ticker=INTC&source=eogyholnk0000001
“our [Berkshire's] favorite holding period is forever,” this quote is almost always used out of context. The entire statement, which was made in a Berkshire Hathaway Chairman’s Letter in 1988, is:

“We expect to hold these securities [Freddie Mac and Coca Cola] for a long time. In fact, when we own portions of outstanding businesses with outstanding managements, our favorite holding period is forever. We are just the opposite of those who hurry to sell and book profits when companies perform well but who tenaciously hang on to businesses that disappoint. Peter Lynch aptly likens such behavior to cutting the flowers and watering the weeds.”
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Tundra said:
Great plan. Buffet and Lynch style of investing. Although Intel looks tempting at this price even if Buffet did dump all of his holdings recently.

http://beta.fool.com/insidermonkey/...nt/14274/?ticker=INTC&source=eogyholnk0000001
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Unless Intel can get a foot into the new hardware standard of the tablets and handheld computers of today, or even come up with something better such as a technology that doesn't constantly overheat, they're a has-been. AMD has been stealing the show for a long time, and I don't think Intel can keep up with earnings. The days of the Pentium are over.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Unless Intel can get a foot into the new hardware standard of the tablets and handheld computers of today, or even come up with something better such as a technology that doesn't constantly overheat, they're a has-been. AMD has been stealing the show for a long time, and I don't think Intel can keep up with earnings. The days of the Pentium are over.
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2003 called, they want their processor back. I honestly don't know anyone with an AMD anymore. Honestly. Back in 2003-2007, I'd say 50% of the people I know had AMDs. Not any more. Absolutely anecdotal but I have to say I just don't think AMD can keep up. They've been getting slaughtered since 2006.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
2003 called, they want their processor back. I honestly don't know anyone with an AMD anymore. Honestly. Back in 2003-2007, I'd say 50% of the people I know had AMDs. Not any more. Absolutely anecdotal but I have to say I just don't think AMD can keep up. They've been getting slaughtered since 2006.
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Who has been beating them, then? This isn't a point finger thread.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Who has been beating them, then? This isn't a point finger thread.
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Intel. Hands down. They've built the best processors by far. Take a look at this benchmark graph:

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu-charts-2012/-36-Total-Time,3179.html

There's a HELL of a lot of blue on top there.

Not sure what you mean by "finger point thread". I'm merely disagreeing with you that AMD is doing a better job Intel and that they are outpacing Intel in technology.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Intel. Hands down. They've built the best processors by far. Take a look at this benchmark graph:

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu-charts-2012/-36-Total-Time,3179.html

There's a HELL of a lot of blue on top there.

Not sure what you mean by "finger point thread". I'm merely disagreeing with you that AMD is doing a better job Intel and that they are outpacing Intel in technology.
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OK, so one performs higher. Here's the $64,000 question, though: Who's selling more? You could have the best product in the world, and it could fail because you can't sell it.
 
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Intel?

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/market_share.html

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(Obviously this isn't an entirely complete picture)
 
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Can't comment-I own very little Tech at this time. That sector has both made me some money and lost me a lot of money at times. I just find that no matter how much time and effort I put into studying it, Tech does what Tech does. I am just not smart enough to figure it out. Yeah, it was pretty simple to know Apple was doing well-but I can never be sure when to buy in or jump out. When i was younger i did not mind the volatility-but at my stage in life and concern about capital preservation, it just scares me too much to sleep well at night.
 
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DrDemento said:
Can't comment-I own very little Tech at this time. That sector has both made me some money and lost me a lot of money at times. I just find that no matter how much time and effort I put into studying it, Tech does what Tech does. I am just not smart enough to figure it out. Yeah, it was pretty simple to know Apple was doing well-but I can never be sure when to buy in or jump out. When i was younger i did not mind the volatility-but at my stage in life and concern about capital preservation, it just scares me too much to sleep well at night.
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I think the secret with tech, especially Apple, is not only product excitement, but the ability to earn a regular following. I suppose this is one of the advantages to being in the 18-29 demographic. I should have seen the writing on the wall when I saw many of my "friends" talking about their iPods and other Apple products to know this was ready to take off. Obviously I can't go back and put the investment in, but I do know in the future, when it comes to tech, to pay close attention to that 18-29 demographic and their small talk, as it will give me a hint as to what the next best thing will be. Obviously in a couple years this will be awkward, and obviously I wouldn't be able to (nor would I want to) stalk my niece's news feed to figure out what's the hottest product, but it's something to keep in mind. They may tell you if you ask, but not always. Listen for those words that float around, window shop in malls to see what teenagers want (obviously don't be creepy about it), you might just find out the next big tech play.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Market share meh, let's look at the earnings, as that will REALLY tell us:

www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:INTC
http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:AMD

Looks like Intel is the better buy in this case.
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Personally, since neither have made any headway into making mobile chips, I'm not sure that I'd buy either of them given the limited growth in the PC market going forward. That said, Intel is a much better current buy unless you're betting big on an AMD turnaround.
 
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