ScoobyDoo
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Truth. And then you can get the other ~20% by standing in line with plutocratic policies. Doesn't matter how psychotic you are. Democrats have an uphill climb in every election.
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The States: Where We Wish Texas Would Secede Already
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Truth. And then you can get the other ~20% by standing in line with plutocratic policies. Doesn't matter how psychotic you are. Democrats have an uphill climb in every election.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Not here...yet. The level of crazy it is going to take to win the MNGOP ballot all but guarantees them a loss in the statewide. You don't win the population centers here by being an Anti-Vaxxer/Anti-Mask Mandate/Anti-LGBTQ+ or well, anything else they stand for. There aren't enough votes in the Red areas to offset the beatdown in Minneapolis and Saint Paul. (plus Duluth and other places with Blue tendencies)
It is so weird...it is just awful politics. If they pushed more towards the center and acted rationally they would be in a position to make a run. This is what happens when you are Anti-Education you can't do basic math.
It is so weird...it is just awful politics. If they pushed more towards the center and acted rationally they would be in a position to make a run. This is what happens when you are Anti-Education you can't do basic math.
state of hockey
He fixes the cable?
Birk joins the Jensen ticket. Haha. Good luck.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
ScoobyDoo
NPC
state of hockey
He fixes the cable?
Birk used to be center for the Vikings. We've all been told he's smart cuz he went to Harvard.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
ScoobyDoo
NPC
And he's a true believer. A Bill Barr/Nikki Haley Republican. Psycho to the core.
bronconick
Yep, still here
Coming within 1-2% in 2016 probably kept them from the center for another 20 years.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Except Virginia is "Newer Blue" the MNGOP hasn't won a statewide election in 15 years.
Walz is too solid a Governor to lose to Gazelka. He isn't controversial enough. As of now only shot the MNGOP has is if people stay home which is not likely because Minneapolis and Saint Paul hate all the MNGOP candidates with the fire of a thousand sun's.
BTW how sad for Birk...when you are a favored son, former star athlete and can't even lead a ticket.
Handyman
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Pathetic and hilarious. Go sell MyPillows and bankrupt another restaurant you worthless piece of crap. He will have a podcast soon I'm sure...
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
I thought the MN problem was it was going the wrong way? (slowly)
ScoobyDoo
NPC
No. Not going the wrong way. Just having the Red part of the states get constantly Redder. Like everywhere else. If the Dems can continue to crush in the population centers we'll probably be alright. To be honest the Democrats biggest problem everywhere is loyalty. If they nominate a shit sandwich their voters abandon ship. That doesn't happen on the other side. They're all in regardless.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Republicans commit their voters in their churches.
We have to do the same. What is liberal church? Colbert?
Handyman
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Stop listening to the media. Trump got close against Hillary but Biden won by 7% as did I believe Tina Smith. 2016 was an outlier.
The problem is, and I point this out every election, the media needs it to sound in doubt. They make it sound like every Dem is vulnerable so people pay attention. Meanwhile Klobuchar always crushes , Smith just got re-elected despite being a cure for insomnia, Omar laughed her way to victory and Walz polls fine even in a Pandemic. They latch on to cruddy polling and look stupid each time.
Again even Hillary won and she was hated here by half the Dems.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Not from the media, coulda sworn it was from you guys worrying.
I'm glad if it isn't true. I worry that states with large rural populations are always at risk. cf. Ohio. There are cities there too, but the bumblefucks won. Florida too. Pennsylvania always on the edge.
rufus
rock and roller
Except Minnie ain't running Terry Mac.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
That is a good point.
Just think of that election as Hillary 2.0.
I hope the Clintonistas are all dead now.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Some around here worried (not me) because a couple polls came out showing Smith was vulnerable much like a lot of Dem Senators were vulnerable in Blue/Purple states. (none of whom lost BTW in fact I am not sure any of them had much of an issue) Then same BS polling showed Omar in trouble. (she has more risk than anyone which I mentioned at the time and it would take a lot for her to lose) The problem was the polling was a joke. In fact I think dx started breaking it down by crosstabs on here and it was hilariously bad. In the end Smith never sweat, Omar smoked her primary and her general and Biden went back to the normal margin in this state.
The demographics just don't work. As Scooby said the Red areas are getting darker red but there is just not many people there. The Blue areas are only getting Bluer as well and they eat up the majority of the population. A lot of these areas are some of the most progressive in the country when it comes to voting record and unlike some other places they vote early and in high numbers. The MNGOP really needs someone to work on the calculus of this because they keep doubling down on a hand that is a loser. They are that moron that plays roulette and keeps betting Black over and over because sooner or later it has to hit...
Best example was back when the MNGOP tried to trick the voters into voting against Marriage Equality. Leaving aside the tricky wording they used to try and fool voters (which failed miserably cause everyone knew the amendment was to ban Gay marriage despite the wording) the truth was the numbers were so not in their favor it didn't matter. Even if every Red Voter voted for it it would take depressed voting in The Cities to have a shot. I drove home from work that night and saw 15 minutes before poll closing that there was a line 3 blocks long at a voting spot in Minneapolis and knew it was over. In the end it lost by 200k votes (almost 4%) and it could have ended up worse.
I am not saying it can't happen cause of course it can. But if the MNGOP wants to win the Governors race they need someone who is likable and not crazy. Running a dude who was responsible for members of his party and family getting COVID and some dying won't do it. Running Trump Disciples and "Election Fraud" believers won't do it. Being Anti-LGBTQ+ won't do it. Best shot is to run a Reagan or Bush type GOPer...not that any exist in that party anymore.
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