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The States: Where We Wish Texas Would Secede Already

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Jimjamesak said:
And that’s where their restrictions on voting comes in. The game is rigged and you’re blaming people for losing a game they can never win.

Edit: In fairness, yeah there’s still a lot of blame to put on the people though, Texas arrogance is a heck of a disease. But at least recognize plenty of people are trying to fight this stuff.
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Yes I am. Sorry but I don't buy that Abbott is Governor because of suppression. The Cities are liberal but unlike a lot of places the rural isnt as empty and they vote.

Why should I give Texas more quarter than I do Alabama, Kentucky or Mississippi? They have people fighting the derp too...yet we rip them incessantly.
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
But they’d become socialists the minute they got that socialized energy
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It’s more of an arrogance thing. Texas has always had the belief that they are big and special and know how to do things themselves without anyone else getting involved.

Alaska has a similar belief but we do it because we have to (and we still
f- up constantly and need to be bailed out).
 
Jimjamesak said:
It’s more of an arrogance thing. Texas has always had the belief that they are big and special and know how to do things themselves without anyone else getting involved.

Alaska has a similar belief but we do it because we have to (and we still
f- up constantly and need to be bailed out).
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This. And make no mistake the Liberals there are just as arrogant. It is a "Texas" thing as much as anything.
 
Handyman said:
Yes I am. Sorry but I don't buy that Abbott is Governor because of suppression. The Cities are liberal but unlike a lot of places the rural isnt as empty and they vote.

Why should I give Texas more quarter than I do Alabama, Kentucky or Mississippi? They have people fighting the derp too...yet we rip them incessantly.
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The rural and suburban of Texas also has the same problem as Alaska (and plenty of other states) does: Everything is bought and paid for by the oil and gas industries. You bring up something that goes against them and you’ll be inundated with millions of dollars spent against it.

Honestly, I don’t think you should be ripping any of the states as a whole. Rip the politicians sure. But don’t rip the people suffering by saying “you voted for this” since the likely response will actually be “I didn’t vote for those people”.
 
Handyman said:
This. And make no mistake the Liberals there are just as arrogant. It is a "Texas" thing as much as anything.
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Oh yeah, it’s beyond a liberal/conservative thing. I doubt any Texas Democrats are calling for the Texas Grid to be integrated into the National Grids.
 
Handyman said:
Except the Green New Deal hasn't passed yet and last I checked Dems don't control Texas...

There is no connection. Of course the people saying this also said California should have swept away the brush to avoid all the wildfires and blamed that on Dems too so there ya go.

I love all the people who are responding to Cruz and his request for aid like this:

EuUFLE9UUAEozpg
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Anyone know if Lyin' Ted has tried to make the argument that this isn't socialism because Texans paid federal taxes that are supposed to pay for disaster aid in these situations? :-)
 
I never thought I would appreciate the energy company where I live, but I now appreciate them. At least DTE's power outage map tells me how long the power has been out and tries to give a restoration time (that time often changes, but at least it's something).

Watching this play out from Michigan while my family is in Houston without power and nothing I can do from here to help is nerve-wracking. Also, why isn't my parent's land line working? I thought those things were supposed to work even when the power is out.
 
Of course.

“Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry suggested that the people of the Lone Star State would rather spend more time without electricity amid a record-setting winter storm than see increased federal involvement in their state.”
 
unofan said:
Meanwhile, Texas' power comes primarily from wind ...
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If by primary you mean 15% of their overall power source, then you are correct.



Also: "45 gigawatts total were offline, with 28 gigawats from thermal sources and 18 gigawatts from renewable sources, ERCOT officials said."
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02/16/texas-wind-turbines-frozen/


Renewables overall make up barely 18% of ERCOT power sources. The fossil fuel plants and nuke plants failing in the cold are what caused this issue.
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Of course.

“Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry suggested that the people of the Lone Star State would rather spend more time without electricity amid a record-setting winter storm than see increased federal involvement in their state.”
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I'll bet $20,000(which I don't have) that Rick Perry ain't sitting in Texas without power.
 
aparch said:
If by primary you mean 15% of their overall power source, then you are correct.



Also: "45 gigawatts total were offline, with 28 gigawats from thermal sources and 18 gigawatts from renewable sources, ERCOT officials said."
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02/16/texas-wind-turbines-frozen/


Renewables overall make up barely 18% of ERCOT power sources. The fossil fuel plants and nuke plants failing in the cold are what caused this issue.
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This was in an article on the Perry quote.

A senior director at the Electric Reliability Council of Texas told Bloomberg that wind shutdowns were responsible for between 3.6 and 4.5 gigawatts of the total 30 to 35 gigawatts worth of outages.
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aparch said:
If by primary you mean 15% of their overall power source, then you are correct.



Also: "45 gigawatts total were offline, with 28 gigawats from thermal sources and 18 gigawatts from renewable sources, ERCOT officials said."
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02...rbines-frozen/


Renewables overall make up barely 18% of ERCOT power sources. The fossil fuel plants and nuke plants failing in the cold are what caused this issue.
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Jesus Christ, talk about using an ellipsis to change the context of the quote.

I said their primary sources of electricity are wind and natural gas. Natural gas makes up 40-45% of their generating capacity, and wind is second at 15-20%. Together that's 55-65%, which would be most. Coal has fallen off a cliff, and nuclear is holding steady.
 
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