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The States: Where We Wish Texas Would Secede Already

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psych said:
Would a nuclear war take out 90% of humans in two years? I'm struggling with the amount of loss here.
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From here:

One 2008 study looked at a Russia-US nuclear war scenario, where Russia would target 2,200 weapons on Western countries and the US would target 1,100 weapons each on China and Russia. In total, therefore, 4,400 warheads detonate, equivalent to roughly half the current inventories held each by Russia and the US.

Nuclear weapons held by other states were not used in this scenario, which has a 440-Mt explosive yield, equivalent to about 150 times all the bombs detonated in World War II. This full-scale nuclear war was estimated to cause 770 million direct deaths and generate 180 Tg of soot from burning cities and forests. In the US, about half the population would be within 5km of a ground zero, and a fifth of the country’s citizens would be killed outright.

A subsequent study, published in 2019, looked at a comparable but slightly lower 150 Tg atmospheric soot injection following an equivalent scale nuclear war. The devastation causes so much smoke that only 30-40 percent of sunlight reaches the Earth’s surface for the subsequent six months.

A massive drop in temperature follows, with the weather staying below freezing throughout the subsequent Northern Hemisphere summer. In Iowa, for example, the model shows temperatures staying below 0?C for 730 days straight. There is no growing season. This is a true nuclear winter.

Nor is it just a short blip. Temperatures still drop below freezing in summer for several years thereafter, and global precipitation falls by half by years three and four. It takes over a decade for anything like climatic normality to return to the planet.

By this time, most of Earth’s human population will be long dead. The world’s food production would crash by more than 90 percent, causing global famine that would kill billions by starvation. In most countries less than a quarter of the population survives by the end of year two in this scenario. Global fish stocks are decimated and the ozone layer collapses.

The models are eerily specific. In the 4,400 warhead/150 Tg soot nuclear war scenario, averaged over the subsequent five years, China sees a reduction in food calories of 97.2 percent, France by 97.5 percent, Russia by 99.7 percent, the UK by 99.5 percent and the US by 98.9 percent. In all these countries, virtually everyone who survived the initial blasts would subsequently starve.


Human extinction?

Even the 150 Tg soot nuclear war scenario is orders of magnitude less than the amount of smoke and other particulates put into the atmosphere by the asteroid that hit the Earth at the end of the Cretaceous, 65 million years ago, killing the dinosaurs and about two-thirds of species alive at the time.

This implies that some humans would survive, eventually to repopulate the planet, and that a species-level extinction of Homo sapiens is unlikely even after a full-scale nuclear war. But the vast majority of the human population would suffer extremely unpleasant deaths from burns, radiation and starvation, and human civilization would likely collapse entirely. Survivors would eke out a living on a devastated, barren planet.

It was this shared understanding of the consequences of nuclear Armageddon that led to the 1985 statement by then US President Ronald Reagan and Soviet General Secretary Mikhail Gorbachev that “a nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought.” This statement was reaffirmed by Presidents Biden and Putin as recently as January 2022. Even as war rages in Ukraine it remains as true now as it was then.

With children’s hospitals bombed and refugees shelled as they flee, emotions run high. But cool heads must ultimately prevail, so that we can collectively step back from the brink of Russia-NATO confrontation before it is too late. The price of nuclear escalation is planetary suicide, with no winners at all. That won’t save lives in Ukraine — it will simply take the death toll of the current war from the thousands to the billions.
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dxmnkd316 said:
Holy fuck. ALaska has cancelled this winter's snow crab (opilio) and king crab seasons in the bering sea.

Edit: Sorry, opilio in the bering sea and king in bristol bay

Edit: Ok, so bristol is basically what we all know from Deadliest Catch
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Maine or NOAA or whoever has closed fishing grounds for years(cod, Shrimp, others) off coast of Maine, Georges banks etc, not surprised by this . The next big one here will be Lobsters .
 
state of hockey said:
From just the Deadliest Catch gang, a few clearly knew this sort of action was coming soon. Sig (Northwestern) has been hitting up the king grounds around Norway for a few years now. I can only imagine the people that avoided the show (the smart ones) were even more ahead of the game.
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The Cornelia Marie has been going to Hawaii for I think 4-5 years. Jake is helping Sig in Norway and fished cod last year for half the run.

I would guess more fishing for Golden King, Blue and Bairdai for those that are stuck only fishing there.
 
Handyman said:
The Cornelia Marie has been going to Hawaii for I think 4-5 years. Jake is helping Sig in Norway and fished cod last year for half the run.

I would guess more fishing for Golden King, Blue and Bairdai for those that are stuck only fishing there.
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It’s been declining for decades. The amount of permits allowed has been cut drastically and the amount of boats going out has declined as a result. They knew this was going to happen. Heck, people in that area and the Native orgs have been raising the climate change alarm for years (they just get out voted by derps on the road system).
 
Jimjamesak said:
It’s been declining for decades. The amount of permits allowed has been cut drastically and the amount of boats going out has declined as a result. They knew this was going to happen. Heck, people in that area and the Native orgs have been raising the climate change alarm for years (they just get out voted by derps on the road system).
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This was the main reason for going to the "quota" system instead of the "get what you can while the season is open" derby that was around in the 00's wasn't it? It's been a known conclusion... Just a matter of time for it to get here and become recognized by everyone...
 
RaceBoarder said:
This was the main reason for going to the "quota" system instead of the "get what you can while the season is open" derby that was around in the 00's wasn't it? It's been a known conclusion... Just a matter of time for it to get here and become recognized by everyone...
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Yeah, for everything else being a s-show, Alaska Department of Fish & Game does know what they're doing and has been trying to sound the alarm on this.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Almost certainly. Keep in mind, with China, a single ICBM would carry enough warheads to take out a billion people. Ditto on India. Europe is 0.75. US is 0.33. That's 1/3 the way there.

Maybe the rest dodge direct shots. But food runs out in six months. Won't grow for several years. Those that survive the initial volleys fight over dwindling food supplies. They wipe each other out within a year after.

What comes after day one is fucking bleak. Im running towards the flash.



worth noting, a small exchange between Pakistan and India would block the sun for months or years. We're all fucked fucked fucked with ANY nuclear exchange.
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Take a day trip to grand forks if you want to simulate what it would be like
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Steve sviggum sounds like a Simpson character.

oh no, my racist friends won’t send their kids to Morris because it’s too diverse! They’ll probably get robbed

https://twitter.com/watchdogumn/stat...7t1BFnpe41PUaA
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I have heard a lot of things about UMN-Morris..."too diverse" is never one of them.

I find it funny though he thinks people aren't attending for that reason. Not the fact that it is in the middle of nowhere and is a tiny school with not much going on around it. Definitely is the not even 50% BIPOC population that is there.

I used to have some friends there when I was in school so would drive there every couple months...one of the worst drives this side of going to Grand Forks. I drove an Oldsmobile Delta '88 back then (1984, my Grandpa's car with like 60k miles on it!) and the wind on some of the "highways" almost blew me off the road. I can only imagine how much it sucked up there from December to say April...
 
Handyman said:
I have heard a lot of things about UMN-Morris..."too diverse" is never one of them.

I find it funny though he thinks people aren't attending for that reason. Not the fact that it is in the middle of nowhere and is a tiny school with not much going on around it. Definitely is the not even 50% BIPOC population that is there.

I used to have some friends there when I was in school so would drive there every couple months...one of the worst drives this side of going to Grand Forks. I drove an Oldsmobile Delta '88 back then (1984, my Grandpa's car with like 60k miles on it!) and the wind on some of the "highways" almost blew me off the road. I can only imagine how much it sucked up there from December to say April...
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Exactly.

I mean, it's just not an attractive school relative to what's around it. UND is a fairly decent school for a handful of undergrad majors. Otherwise, UMD is a better school and not that far away. NDSU isn't that far away. Morris is just kind of a small fish in a pond of much bigger fish.
 
Sounds like a bit like UAF. Except Alaska continuously pumps money into UAF and then wonders why nearly every kid leaves state for college.
 
Having been to Morris dozens of times, including stepping foot on campus a few dozen times, he must have meant too diverse in hair color, because Morris has to be 97% white. It’s almost as relative in size to Fairbanks as Fairbanks is to Anchorage.
That said, if you’re looking for a liberal arts degree, Morris is better than any of those aforementioned schools. The town sucks and is far away from any major population centers. And yes, the winters out there suck.
 
I suppose that's a blind spot for me. I don't really know much about LA schools outside the bigger names closer to the metro. Also because I don't think I know many liberal arts grads in my professional life.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
I suppose that's a blind spot for me. I don't really know much about LA schools outside the bigger names closer to the metro. Also because I don't think I know many liberal arts grads in my professional life.
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It's not saying much. As a college student, I would rather attend any of the aforementioned schools due to location alone. Any students leaning toward heavier scienced based degrees would be better served attending NDSU, UND, etc. But, Morris is not a bad school, considering its location. Certainly helps they're apart of the U of M system, which I think is excellent, but being a native Minnesotan, I'm biased.
 
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