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The States: North Dakota? Come On, Ohio Is The Worst State Ever.

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Re: The States: North Dakota? Come On, Ohio Is The Worst State Ever.

Nope. OSU is a powerhouse in research. Barely beyond Minnesota, Yale, and Rutgers.

All of the Big Ten schools are mega research schools.

Yes, they get massive grants because they're in the University Industrial Complex. Think about where I'm from, I know all about that.

You know who else gets massive research grants? Florida. Louisiana. You know... joke schools. So academic integrity does not follow from being on the federal gravy train.

There are great state schools: North Carolina, Cal, UCLA, UT-Austin. There are schools that are very very good though not quite as good as they think they are: Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn State, Washington.

And then there are a lot of schools which are kinda sketchy.

Obviously you can find a handful of genius students and genius professors at any school. The second best Ag program in the country is Texas A&M and the third is K State. For that matter, once you get into grad schools it's impossible to generalize about a school's departments -- I'll bet every B1G's math grad department is preferable to Cornell's. For the longest time, the best Medieval History grad program in the United States was at Rutgers. The best Medieval Philosophy program was at Arizona.

So it really doesn't matter and it all gets in the way of the real question. What happened in Wisconsin?!
 
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Re: The States: North Dakota? Come On, Ohio Is The Worst State Ever.

Ornery house today. Probably the Cousins Effect.

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Re: The States: North Dakota? Come On, Ohio Is The Worst State Ever.

All this says to me is, "Midwesterner."

I dunno. That's the first picture that comes up with "typical packer fan" Here is the rest of the NFC North:
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<img width=500 src=https://dubsism.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/bears-fan.jpg>
<img width=500 src=https://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/370/491/hi-res-153626982_crop_exact.jpg?w=1200&h=1200&q=75>

Here's "Typical Midwesterner"
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Here's "Typical Minnesotan" (Ok, so it was the #2, but was just too good)
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Re: The States: North Dakota? Come On, Ohio Is The Worst State Ever.

Ohhhhhhhh I knew I hated this ****wad:
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Re: The States: North Dakota? Come On, Ohio Is The Worst State Ever.

It does look like him...minus the legs ;)
 
Off the top of my head I can't think of a case where U State and State U were created by the land grant system and U State is the better school.
Too lazy to confirm, but I am pretty sure that each state was only allowed to create one land grant school, so there shouldn’t be any cases where U State and State U were both created by land grants.
 
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<img src=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land-grant_university#/media/File%3ALand_Grant_Colleges_Map.svg>
 
Re: The States: North Dakota? Come On, Ohio Is The Worst State Ever.

Too lazy to confirm, but I am pretty sure that each state was only allowed to create one land grant school, so there shouldn’t be any cases where U State and State U were both created by land grants.

Oh, that's interesting. I had no idea. Were the teachers colleges a separate bill?
 
Re: The States: North Dakota? Come On, Ohio Is The Worst State Ever.

There are great state schools: North Carolina, Cal, UCLA, UT-Austin. There are schools that are very very good though not quite as good as they think they are: Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn State, Washington.

When did UNC become a great school?

Also, how dare you argue with James Earl Jones? Before each Michigan football game his booming voice announces, "we are the best University in the world".
Oh, who am I kidding, I disagree with it too. If you have to announce that you're the best, clearly you're not the best.
However, Michigan is one of the best. Consistently top 5. So good that when I toured University of Maryland as a prospective student, the prof giving the tour said how they hoped their engineering school would be up there with the Standfords and the Michigans.
 
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