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The States: Mad Scientist Laboratories of Democracy

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I took a saliva test when I lived in Washington...it took a few minutes to get a reading and while I MAY have partaked in some less than legal activities a couple days prior (the new law had not gone in effect yet) the test came out negative. I think things are changing on the testing front quite quickly...
I don't disagree with that, but the last that I saw saliva tests were only coming back around 70% accurate. While that may be good enough to get you kicked off the high school football team, I'm not sure you'll get many guilty verdicts with it.
 
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So then we we should just reinstate Prohibition since Alcohol is uber addictive as well? (and way more dangerous than Pot...take it from me my parents are Pot Addicts)

No. No. No. No.

I think it should be legalized. What I'm saying is the epic fail that we have achieved in the justice system with drugs we will now duplicate on the medical side of the issue. Because, just like no one considered the ramifications of making it illegal (despite history and prohibition being a great teacher), no one will bother considering the ramifications on the other side.

I'm well aware alcohol is worse. Keenly in fact.
 
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Wake me up when we have the stones to walk past Mr. Benjamin and do something about the killer of killers: sugar. We worship that one.
 
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Wake me up when we have the stones to walk past Mr. Benjamin and do something about the killer of killers: sugar. We worship that one.

Ironically my doctor told me today that I'm either going to do just that or bad things will happen.

I'm going to miss sugar and starches.
 
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Ironically my doctor told me today that I'm either going to do just that or bad things will happen.

I'm going to miss sugar and starches.

If true, you'll only miss them for the first couple weeks, maybe three. After that it becomes much easier.
 
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If true, you'll only miss them for the first couple weeks, maybe three. After that it becomes much easier.

God I hope so.

At my peak I was drinking 8-10 full sugar sodas per day. Did that for about 10 years. I'm down, but only to about 6.

It is actually a little strange that I am not dead.

Anyway, yes. That is addiction.
 
God I hope so.

At my peak I was drinking 8-10 full sugar sodas per day. Did that for about 10 years. I'm down, but only to about 6.

It is actually a little strange that I am not dead.

Anyway, yes. That is addiction.

Driving at night on Rt 15 will shorten your lifespan.
 
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God I hope so.

At my peak I was drinking 8-10 full sugar sodas per day. Did that for about 10 years. I'm down, but only to about 6.

It is actually a little strange that I am not dead.

Anyway, yes. That is addiction.

I would suggest signing up for Medifast, if it's in your area. It did great for me and it's a low sugar diet. They'll help you figure out which veggies and fruit are your best options for feeling satiated. Also, I found stuffed olives to be a godsend for curbing snacking impulses. Just keep to the serving size listed on the jar.
 
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Six regular pops a day?

John Oliver said:
Holy sh|t!

I just stopped buying the stuff cold turkey. I'm down to maybe one or two a month. And when I do, it's always diet.
 
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Seriously though. We need to get you addicted to something that has some health benefits. Like coffee or tea.

And none of that carboloaded crap. I'm talking straight black. Straighter and blacker than Shaft.
 
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I think the problem lies with the fact that we have an over addicted population with a complete lack of a health care system to handle it. We tried handling addiction through the criminal justice system and we failed in spectacular fashion. Now we're going to fail again this time in the health care system. And the fallout this time around is going to suck. Big time. Already does for many many people. And nothing sucks more.

Correct. And marijuana IS psychologically addictive to daily (or otherwise habitual) smokers. Just because you don't get the sweats, the shakes, and the sh*ts when you go cold turkey, doesn't mean you aren't an addict.

The problem is that science hasn't caught up with the legalization.

As I understand it, there is no breath test for marijuana in your system. You have to do blood or urine, or possibly saliva, so a quick, easy, "defensible in court" test at the scene is not readily available.

The problem with those tests is that you can test positive for marijuana days or even weeks after you use it. The remnants remain but there is no influence over your motor skills. That leads to the final problem which is that while even with alcohol people may vary slightly in terms of their level of function, everyone loses certain motor skills when under the influence, whereas with marijuana, they are not sure that's true.

All valid points, which I've brought up before when this topic has arisen. The only thing I would add, is that there are different types of weed, each with varying effects - some types will make you sleepy, others energetic/anxious. IMO, none of those effects is particularly good for driving, so I'd have no problem with a blanket law, pothead hair-splitting be f*ed. Just be happy society isn't throwing you in jail for possession anymore.

Wonder whether our kids have a hope in hell of getting rid of the substance police after driverless cars take over?

Your daughter is part of my generation, so I doubt it, but bigger miracles have happened.

God I hope so.

At my peak I was drinking 8-10 full sugar sodas per day. Did that for about 10 years. I'm down, but only to about 6.

It is actually a little strange that I am not dead.

Anyway, yes. That is addiction.

I think this is the part at which I mention that my late uncle drank at least a couple of 2Ls of Coke a day for over 30 years. He died of pancreatic cancer 4 years ago, and only made it to 52.

My God man, do something. We'd hate to lose our favorite socialist to something as dumb and insidious as King Sugar.

Seriously though. We need to get you addicted to something that has some health benefits. Like coffee or tea.

And none of that carboloaded crap. I'm talking straight black. Straighter and blacker than Shaft.

As the story from my grandmother goes, her father said, "If you're going to drink coffee, you must drink it black." Unfortunately, my mom uses cream, so it skipped a generation.
 
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I have 1-2 pops a week and because of that it's never diet.
 
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Anyway, yes. That is addiction.

It is, and it galls me a little that we promote the consumption of sugar at every turn in this country and, at the same time, treat tokers as criminals.
 
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I would suggest signing up for Medifast, if it's in your area. It did great for me and it's a low sugar diet. They'll help you figure out which veggies and fruit are your best options for feeling satiated. Also, I found stuffed olives to be a godsend for curbing snacking impulses. Just keep to the serving size listed on the jar.

Interesting. Thank you. Picking up tennis has helped me with exercise. Dr. Mrs. and I use Blue Apron, which is very good, although even with the ingredients all there food prep still takes us, well, her, a lot of time.

Most of my problems come from sheer laziness. Cooking bores me to tears, so I will resort to pizza delivery once a week and also will eat some fast food at work for lunch.

In all honesty I don't care about food, so if the meal that gets put in front of me is healthy I'll eat it just the same as if it's crap. I just want to do absolutely zero work to make it happen. Food is like basketball or romcoms -- inherently uninteresting.
 
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Seriously though. We need to get you addicted to something that has some health benefits. Like coffee or tea.

And none of that carboloaded crap. I'm talking straight black. Straighter and blacker than Shaft.

My problem with coffee is I hate the taste of coffee. Teas are fine; I don't have any real palate for the taste of it, but I don't find it objectionable. I do like things like Diet Snapple but I suspect they are lethal chemicals.
 
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