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The States: Mad Scientist Laboratories of Democracy

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Approaching 11 months without a 2016 state fiscal budget, the State of Illinois now only has 11 more days left in this legislative session to pass the new budget for 2017. :eek:

Are they gonna make it?

As failed states go, that's pretty good. Although didn't Belgium go about 18 months with literally no budget and not even a seated government?
 
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Parliamentary governments are weird.

I'm reading a lot right now re: the arguments for and against parliamentary vs presidential systems and what the effects are on democratic values and outcomes. It's really interesting and there's quite a lot of complexity to the arguments, which have been raging for 200 years or more.
 
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Took a lot of foreign policy courses in college (International Relations major). Brits will argue it's better because parties have to choose the best among them to become the party leader whereas in the case of the US President the tendency is for elections to be popularity contests. There is a lot, lot more to it than that of course. And I'd say outside the US it is primarily used by the most successful countries.
 
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And with today being June 1st, Illinois currently has no State budget for the second year in a row. There is still time to pass the 2017 budget before the fiscal year starts July 1st, but as of right now, neither party can come to agreement.
 
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Gotta figure 4 more years of a Democratic White House and the pot battle will be all but over.

I cannot think of an issue on which I give less of a flying f-ck. Just legalize already so we can stop wasting time on it. Who cares?
 
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Gotta figure 4 more years of a Democratic White House and the pot battle will be all but over.

I cannot think of an issue on which I give less of a flying f-ck. Just legalize already so we can stop wasting time on it. Who cares?

I think the problem lies with the fact that we have an over addicted population with a complete lack of a health care system to handle it. We tried handling addiction through the criminal justice system and we failed in spectacular fashion. Now we're going to fail again this time in the health care system. And the fallout this time around is going to suck. Big time. Already does for many many people. And nothing sucks more.
 
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Gotta figure 4 more years of a Democratic White House and the pot battle will be all but over.

I cannot think of an issue on which I give less of a flying f-ck. Just legalize already so we can stop wasting time on it. Who cares?

Depends on how we legalize it. If some idiot decides to toke up next to my kid's playground, I want that jack*** in jail. If you're eating Scooby snacks in your house, I really don't care unless you get too impaired to drive, but do so anyway (really, we need some way to bring drug usage while driving under the DUI umbrella. You can't have people driving around just as fuked up but if you accomplished that with pot instead of booze you get a free ride).
 
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Depends on how we legalize it. If some idiot decides to toke up next to my kid's playground, I want that jack*** in jail. If you're eating Scooby snacks in your house, I really don't care unless you get too impaired to drive, but do so anyway (really, we need some way to bring drug usage while driving under the DUI umbrella. You can't have people driving around just as fuked up but if you accomplished that with pot instead of booze you get a free ride).

MN already has all intoxicants covered under its DUI laws, be they illegal drugs, prescription drugs, OTC drugs, or alcohol. I thought that was standard language used by all states.
 
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Depends on how we legalize it. If some idiot decides to toke up next to my kid's playground, I want that jack*** in jail. If you're eating Scooby snacks in your house, I really don't care unless you get too impaired to drive, but do so anyway (really, we need some way to bring drug usage while driving under the DUI umbrella. You can't have people driving around just as fuked up but if you accomplished that with pot instead of booze you get a free ride).
The problem is that science hasn't caught up with the legalization.

As I understand it, there is no breath test for marijuana in your system. You have to do blood or urine, or possibly saliva, so a quick, easy, "defensible in court" test at the scene is not readily available.

The problem with those tests is that you can test positive for marijuana days or even weeks after you use it. The remnants remain but there is no influence over your motor skills. That leads to the final problem which is that while even with alcohol people may vary slightly in terms of their level of function, everyone loses certain motor skills when under the influence, whereas with marijuana, they are not sure that's true.
 
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The problem is that science hasn't caught up with the legalization.

As I understand it, there is no breath test for marijuana in your system. You have to do blood or urine, or possibly saliva, so a quick, easy, "defensible in court" test at the scene is not readily available.

The problem with those tests is that you can test positive for marijuana days or even weeks after you use it. The remnants remain but there is no influence over your motor skills. That leads to the final problem which is that while even with alcohol people may vary slightly in terms of their level of function, everyone loses certain motor skills when under the influence, whereas with marijuana, they are not sure that's true.

Because delta-9 THC is fat soluble, it stays in your system for up to a month. Testing positive on a test means you have over a certain amount of THC in your system because under that amount means you could've walked through a cloud of secondhand smoke or it's been a while since you've smoked yourself. A habitual user could read negative on the test if s/he only smokes three or fewer joints throughout a given week.

This information is now 22 years old, and may be null and void now that more sophisticated tests have undoubtedly become available. (I taught an anti-drug class to 6th graders as part of a school program when I was in 12th grade. No, it wasn't involuntary community service.)
 
Depends on how we legalize it. If some idiot decides to toke up next to my kid's playground, I want that jack*** in jail. If you're eating Scooby snacks in your house, I really don't care unless you get too impaired to drive, but do so anyway (really, we need some way to bring drug usage while driving under the DUI umbrella. You can't have people driving around just as fuked up but if you accomplished that with pot instead of booze you get a free ride).

It already is covered, at least in every state I've looked at.

Just treat pot like cigarettes and alcohol and move on.
 
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How do you feel about legalizing prostitution?

Legalize it and set licensing and regulations in place to protect the women, force out the pimps, and increase the penalties on the johns using illegal prostitutes to be so steep that they wouldn't dream of it. Those arrested for pimping should also be charged on whatever grounds they can be for harboring slaves (sex slaves is what a number of these prostitutes being rented out end up being) and human trafficking, if possible. Set legalized zones for bordellos to operate, caps on what owners of the bordellos can charge the girls (agency fees, room and board, etc.), and create a minimum age for these women, either 21 or 25 (I'd prefer 25).
 
Legalize it and set licensing and regulations in place to protect the women, force out the pimps, and increase the penalties on the johns using illegal prostitutes to be so steep that they wouldn't dream of it. Those arrested for pimping should also be charged on whatever grounds they can be for harboring slaves (sex slaves is what a number of these prostitutes being rented out end up being) and human trafficking, if possible. Set legalized zones for bordellos to operate, caps on what owners of the bordellos can charge the girls (agency fees, room and board, etc.), and create a minimum age for these women, either 21 or 25 (I'd prefer 25).

Agree, but anecdotal evidence suggests some ladies are paying their way through college as a licensed prostitute.

I wonder what the percentages and age limits are in the licensed brothels in NV?
 
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