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The States. It's 10th Amendment or bust!
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Acetaminamerican
Or he'll be embraced by his constituents like Jesse Jackson Jr was.
Jackson Jr. was re-elected in 2012 in a landslide even though he was being investigated for using campaign funds for personal use. And then he and his wife were both found guilty after the election.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The States. It's 10th Amendment or bust!
Hmm. Not good. Assuming he was the front runner and that 70% of the vote has already been cast, you would need practically a sweep of the final 30% to offset any sort of lead.
I guess if MT has a recall they could just file the papers the day after the election.
No contrition by the thug, BTW. He's blaming it on the "liberal reporter." I love the implication that if he's a liberal it's OK to beat him up. Trump's America: the revenge of the jocks.
Hmm. Not good. Assuming he was the front runner and that 70% of the vote has already been cast, you would need practically a sweep of the final 30% to offset any sort of lead.
I guess if MT has a recall they could just file the papers the day after the election.
No contrition by the thug, BTW. He's blaming it on the "liberal reporter." I love the implication that if he's a liberal it's OK to beat him up. Trump's America: the revenge of the jocks.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The States. It's 10th Amendment or bust!
Heck, pols have been elected from jail. But this is a statewide election. I have to think the entire population of a state isn't that stupid. Right?
Right?
Heck, pols have been elected from jail. But this is a statewide election. I have to think the entire population of a state isn't that stupid. Right?
Right?
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The States. It's 10th Amendment or bust!
No thanks. This is the school of thought that it's good that Trump won because now everybody will see what nitwits the Republicans are.
How's that working out?
No thanks. This is the school of thought that it's good that Trump won because now everybody will see what nitwits the Republicans are.
How's that working out?
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: The States. It's 10th Amendment or bust!
I agree it's not. But if he doesn't win the Republicans will skate away from this free as a bird. I want the anchor around their necks for a few more weeks. I would imagine they will recall him if he wins. And if they don't, even worse.
I agree it's not. But if he doesn't win the Republicans will skate away from this free as a bird. I want the anchor around their necks for a few more weeks. I would imagine they will recall him if he wins. And if they don't, even worse.
Re: The States. It's 10th Amendment or bust!
Why am I thinking the reporter was probably a lot smaller than him? Typical Republican in short.
From what I've read early voting might favor Quist slightly as Dems take advantage of that more but Republicans tend to clean up on election day with older voters turning out in greater #'s. I can't say if this will matter. It should, but as one GOP operative said, you have to frame this as a liberal media attack because turning out the base is the only strategy he's got.
Why am I thinking the reporter was probably a lot smaller than him? Typical Republican in short.
From what I've read early voting might favor Quist slightly as Dems take advantage of that more but Republicans tend to clean up on election day with older voters turning out in greater #'s. I can't say if this will matter. It should, but as one GOP operative said, you have to frame this as a liberal media attack because turning out the base is the only strategy he's got.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The States. It's 10th Amendment or bust!
I'm sure by tonight Fox and their serfs will be parroting that this was media, liberal media, maybe even (((liberal media))) trying to sabotage the moral fiber of America's backbone. Put some of the Stormfront types on it. They have a way with Dolchstoßlegende. Stay tuned for Flag's hot take (<-- be sure to gobble those Comments).
I'm sure by tonight Fox and their serfs will be parroting that this was media, liberal media, maybe even (((liberal media))) trying to sabotage the moral fiber of America's backbone. Put some of the Stormfront types on it. They have a way with Dolchstoßlegende. Stay tuned for Flag's hot take (<-- be sure to gobble those Comments).
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Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: The States. It's 10th Amendment or bust!
Not quite that bad, but close. Assuming that Gianforte had a 10% lead in early votes (I believe polls had shown him with about a 6-8% lead) and that 70% of the vote has already been cast (approximately 250,000), Quist would need to take approximately 62% of the final 30% of the vote to get the W.
Not quite that bad, but close. Assuming that Gianforte had a 10% lead in early votes (I believe polls had shown him with about a 6-8% lead) and that 70% of the vote has already been cast (approximately 250,000), Quist would need to take approximately 62% of the final 30% of the vote to get the W.
Re: The States. It's 10th Amendment or bust!
Honestly, I'm not convinced he didn't decide to do this to enhance his election chances in Montana. I'm not sure he's that well liked there. Pretty sure native Montanans wouldn't consider him one of them. They see his type all the time. Guys from the coast who strike it rich in one business or another, cash in all their chips and move to Bozeman or Missoula and become "ranchers." I have relatives in western Montana, and from what I've heard, those types are not all that popular.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was a staged old west saloon fight with the Guardian reporter an unwitting and unfortunate prop.
It is Montana.
Honestly, I'm not convinced he didn't decide to do this to enhance his election chances in Montana. I'm not sure he's that well liked there. Pretty sure native Montanans wouldn't consider him one of them. They see his type all the time. Guys from the coast who strike it rich in one business or another, cash in all their chips and move to Bozeman or Missoula and become "ranchers." I have relatives in western Montana, and from what I've heard, those types are not all that popular.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was a staged old west saloon fight with the Guardian reporter an unwitting and unfortunate prop.
Slap Shot
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ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: The States. It's 10th Amendment or bust!
Same thing the winners do all the time. Why don't you want to win? I want to win.
Same thing the winners do all the time. Why don't you want to win? I want to win.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
unofan
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Didn't he just run for governor last November and lose?
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The States. It's 10th Amendment or bust!
Yes, he lost to Bullock by 3%.
Good God, the winning vote total for a GOVERNORSHIP was significantly less than the population of Buffalo. Everything from the Mississippi to the CA border should be collapsed into one state.
Yes, he lost to Bullock by 3%.
Good God, the winning vote total for a GOVERNORSHIP was significantly less than the population of Buffalo. Everything from the Mississippi to the CA border should be collapsed into one state.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: The States. It's 10th Amendment or bust!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If only for the health of the GOP, shouldn't some elected Republicans actually criticize a candidate who assaults someone and lies about it?</p>— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/867731751053004800">May 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If only for the health of the GOP, shouldn't some elected Republicans actually criticize a candidate who assaults someone and lies about it?</p>— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/867731751053004800">May 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: The States. It's 10th Amendment or bust!
That is an interesting proposition. Not including Oregon, Washington, Alaska, and Hawaii, the new state would have more than double the population of California (approximately 80+ million people). The new state would likely increase its representation in the U.S. House (going from 111 Representatives to 112-113 depending on reapportionment), but would lose 36 Senate seats (going from 38 to 2).
EDIT: Continuing with this proposition, and how it would have altered the 2016 Presidential Election - Donald Trump would have won the new state by over 4 million votes, capturing its 114 electoral votes. There would have been only 502 Electoral Votes in this new configuration, meaning Trump would have needed 252 electoral votes to win. Combined with his other victories, Trump would have captured 300-301 (depending on what state lost an electoral vote based on reapportionment) to Clinton's 201-202 (despite winning the popular vote by 3+ million). In other words, it appears that the new state would disproportionately help Republicans even further in the Electoral College. On the plus side for Democrats, they would almost certainly dominate the Senate for the foreseeable future.
That is an interesting proposition. Not including Oregon, Washington, Alaska, and Hawaii, the new state would have more than double the population of California (approximately 80+ million people). The new state would likely increase its representation in the U.S. House (going from 111 Representatives to 112-113 depending on reapportionment), but would lose 36 Senate seats (going from 38 to 2).
EDIT: Continuing with this proposition, and how it would have altered the 2016 Presidential Election - Donald Trump would have won the new state by over 4 million votes, capturing its 114 electoral votes. There would have been only 502 Electoral Votes in this new configuration, meaning Trump would have needed 252 electoral votes to win. Combined with his other victories, Trump would have captured 300-301 (depending on what state lost an electoral vote based on reapportionment) to Clinton's 201-202 (despite winning the popular vote by 3+ million). In other words, it appears that the new state would disproportionately help Republicans even further in the Electoral College. On the plus side for Democrats, they would almost certainly dominate the Senate for the foreseeable future.
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Re: The States. It's 10th Amendment or bust!
That to me is the worst part here. Lets say the dude lost his temper. How about a simple and humble apology even with some weasel words trying to explain himself. Instead trying to blame it on some "liberal reporter" makes it look like 1) he thinks unprovoked assault is okay as long as its for partisan reasons, and 2) he like Trump is perfectly willing to make stuff up if the facts don't align the way he'd like.
Do we really need yet another representative in DC like this?
That to me is the worst part here. Lets say the dude lost his temper. How about a simple and humble apology even with some weasel words trying to explain himself. Instead trying to blame it on some "liberal reporter" makes it look like 1) he thinks unprovoked assault is okay as long as its for partisan reasons, and 2) he like Trump is perfectly willing to make stuff up if the facts don't align the way he'd like.
Do we really need yet another representative in DC like this?
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: The States. It's 10th Amendment or bust!
No, but if he could be elected we need to hang the ****er around the GOP's necks.
Do we really need yet another representative in DC like this?
No, but if he could be elected we need to hang the ****er around the GOP's necks.
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