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The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
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unofan
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Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
If they're that fiscally irresponsible as an 18 year old college freshman? Possibly. I'd like to think I would not enable their destructive behaviors.
But my wife and I are not planning to have kids. So it's all theoretical anyway.
If they're that fiscally irresponsible as an 18 year old college freshman? Possibly. I'd like to think I would not enable their destructive behaviors.
But my wife and I are not planning to have kids. So it's all theoretical anyway.
Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
Can the power of data sway people more than unproven demagogery?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...7590923443298172.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop
Can the power of data sway people more than unproven demagogery?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...7590923443298172.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop
FlagDUDE08
Banned
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Medicare is actually a designed monopoly. It is a FELONY for a physician to accept a cash payment for a procedure that is covered by Medicare but cannot be funded at the time (1997 Balanced Budget Act, Section 4507). Also, in order to receive Social Security, you MUST enroll in Medicare.
http://www.cchfreedom.org/files/files/17 Facts with Numbers 4_14_12.pdf
Medicare is actually a designed monopoly. It is a FELONY for a physician to accept a cash payment for a procedure that is covered by Medicare but cannot be funded at the time (1997 Balanced Budget Act, Section 4507). Also, in order to receive Social Security, you MUST enroll in Medicare.
http://www.cchfreedom.org/files/files/17 Facts with Numbers 4_14_12.pdf
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
So you guys are finally coming around on climate change?
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
We're debating on the best way to introduce our daughter to the wonderful world of debt slavery.
This is why Amex was a good training wheels card. But having developed good habits, you should leave home without it as soon as possible.
We're debating on the best way to introduce our daughter to the wonderful world of debt slavery.
FlagDUDE08
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You still don't have concrete proof on that. Similar fluctuations were recorded in temperature even before the Industrial era!
You still don't have concrete proof on that. Similar fluctuations were recorded in temperature even before the Industrial era!
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
Why does the Tea Party and Mitt Romney want to preserve Medicare then? Every bullet point in that PDF if bad.
Why does the Tea Party and Mitt Romney want to preserve Medicare then? Every bullet point in that PDF if bad.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
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I have no clue why Mittens is supporting it; like I said, I'm not voting for him. As for the TEA Party, the Republican takeover version may support it, but the real TEA Party, who backs people such as Herman Cain, do not.
I have no clue why Mittens is supporting it; like I said, I'm not voting for him. As for the TEA Party, the Republican takeover version may support it, but the real TEA Party, who backs people such as Herman Cain, do not.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
All the signs that said, "Don't Touch My Medicare" were at Tea Party rallies.
All the signs that said, "Don't Touch My Medicare" were at Tea Party rallies.
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It's just typical unofan over the top partisan commentary.ah, but would you stop feeding him / her? would you not allow them back into your house?
That's what you suggested I would do in this situation, you know.
It's a gnarly situation with no easy answers, eh?
Everything doesn't always have to be constant warfare....
FlagDUDE08
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Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
Nobody's perfect.
Nobody's perfect.
Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
Climate change has been going on for millions of years; anthropogenic climate change in the past 100 years....who can trust any data at this point?
and there is a saying in medicine about the cure being worse than the disease, no?
Climate change has been going on for millions of years; anthropogenic climate change in the past 100 years....who can trust any data at this point?
and there is a saying in medicine about the cure being worse than the disease, no?
Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
If we're going to go off on this topic, let me first clear up some misunderstandings: there are 3 main camps. I think clearly the largest one thinks that global warming is a man-made disaster whether or not we can do anything to stop it, but we ought to try. The second thinks global warming is a man-made disaster that we'll have to adapt to out of economic necessity and the limitations of our power to stop it even if we had infinite money to spend on trying (limits of knowledge and technology). The third large group thinks global warming is similar to past changes and is not significantly tied to human activity and it would be foolish of us to attempt to control it, but that it's a part of our natural world. As I've got one foot in the third and most extreme group, let me just add that the technology to accurately measure global temperature and the rates of changes therein have only been around for a minuscule amount of time. The fossil record tells us very little in this regard (quick short-term swings like we're now experiencing).
The point is, nobody denies global warming is happening at the "moment", outside 3 or 4 county fair-goers in Idaho. The main question is whether natural cycles are only ever annual, or can last for decades or centuries.
If we're going to go off on this topic, let me first clear up some misunderstandings: there are 3 main camps. I think clearly the largest one thinks that global warming is a man-made disaster whether or not we can do anything to stop it, but we ought to try. The second thinks global warming is a man-made disaster that we'll have to adapt to out of economic necessity and the limitations of our power to stop it even if we had infinite money to spend on trying (limits of knowledge and technology). The third large group thinks global warming is similar to past changes and is not significantly tied to human activity and it would be foolish of us to attempt to control it, but that it's a part of our natural world. As I've got one foot in the third and most extreme group, let me just add that the technology to accurately measure global temperature and the rates of changes therein have only been around for a minuscule amount of time. The fossil record tells us very little in this regard (quick short-term swings like we're now experiencing).
The point is, nobody denies global warming is happening at the "moment", outside 3 or 4 county fair-goers in Idaho. The main question is whether natural cycles are only ever annual, or can last for decades or centuries.
unofan
Well-known member
Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
I'm simply pointing out exactly what a Randian must truly believe if they want a purely market based health care system.
I'm simply pointing out exactly what a Randian must truly believe if they want a purely market based health care system.
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Too late to backpedal a little.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
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The people who are in the first two camps don't have the ability to think in the long-term. Natural cycles sure as heck aren't annual, they're MUCH longer than that.
The people who are in the first two camps don't have the ability to think in the long-term. Natural cycles sure as heck aren't annual, they're MUCH longer than that.
unofan
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Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
Not backpedaling. Freshfish still hasn't said what he'd do to those who make poor choices in his mythical system. He made some analogy that is generically vague. My guess is I'm on the money but he doesn't want to admit it.
Not backpedaling. Freshfish still hasn't said what he'd do to those who make poor choices in his mythical system. He made some analogy that is generically vague. My guess is I'm on the money but he doesn't want to admit it.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
If you make a poor choice, then you should pay the consequences. It's high time we reward those who carry the water over those who drink the water.
If you make a poor choice, then you should pay the consequences. It's high time we reward those who carry the water over those who drink the water.
Re: The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
Not so much PPACA, but this is getting scary.... http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...e18b1a-ec66-11e1-9ddc-340d5efb1e9c_story.html
Not so much PPACA, but this is getting scary.... http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...e18b1a-ec66-11e1-9ddc-340d5efb1e9c_story.html
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