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The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

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bronconick said:
GOP Rep. Chaffetz: Americans may need to choose between "new iphone... they just love" and investing in health care

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Boy, that's going to go over well. Did Trump run on that? If he didn't, it doesn't matter, it's clearly what America voted for.
 
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Rover said:
Hey, they're the ones who need to lose their health insurance then. 'Bout time people pay the consequences of their actions...
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The Lock Her Uppers don't have much education, but since they're also the Roly Polies and the Welfare Mouchers, they're about to get a graduate level course in what "Big Gubmint" actually does. :p
 
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Listening to the Vice President now. I often wonder if these people actually believe the BS their shoveling.
 
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Kepler said:
The Lock Her Uppers don't have much education, but since they're also the Roly Polies and the Welfare Mouchers, they're about to get a graduate level course in what "Big Gubmint" actually does. :p
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Between the healthcare, the lack of education, and the roll back of environmental policies- a lot of these people are just going to go away.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Listening to the Vice President now. I often wonder if these people actually believe the BS their shoveling.
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I have a default setting of assuming they believe about 50% of what they're saying. The rest is fan service.
 
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alfablue said:
Between the healthcare, the lack of education, and the roll back of environmental policies- a lot of these people are just going to go away.
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But not before they spawn, particularly since they start in their early-to-mid-teens.

Otherwise the problem would be its own solution.
 
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St. Clown said:
I have a default setting of assuming they believe about 50% of what they're saying. The rest is fan service.
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I'd say it's all fan service. Half of it they realize they're lying ("your jobs are coming back"). Half of it they've convinced themselves is true, even though it isn't ("cutting taxes on the wealthy will help the middle class").
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Listening to the Vice President now. I often wonder if these people actually believe the BS their shoveling.
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I think Pence does...I think Ryan does...the rest are just drones that are waiting for their operating system to update with new information.
 
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Handyman said:
I think Pence does...I think Ryan does...the rest are just drones that are waiting for their operating system to update with new information.
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If Pence and Ryan believe it then they're dumb. And I don't think they're dumb. I think their top drawer snake oil salesman who only care about themselves.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
If Pence and Ryan believe it then they're dumb. And I don't think they're dumb. I think their top drawer snake oil salesman who only care about themselves.
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Pence is a true believer...ask anyone from Indiana. Ryan has never wavered...

If they werent true believers they would be pivoting.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
If Pence and Ryan believe it then they're dumb. And I don't think they're dumb. I think their top drawer snake oil salesman who only care about themselves.
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??

They do believe what they are dolling out. The message hasn't changed for a decade now.

BTW, one question I have- when your insurance lapses, and you pay the $300 re-enrollment penalty- who gets it?

IF the insurance company does, then they have major incentives to make sure people don't renew their insurance so that they can get an extra $300 out of their customers.
 
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So, the American Hospital Association doesn't like the proposed law. Not a fan of the new uninsured ER coming, maybe. So axing that'll be next when they rewrite it
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
If Pence and Ryan believe it then they're dumb. And I don't think they're dumb. I think their top drawer snake oil salesman who only care about themselves.
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Pence is dumb. Ryan's not dumb, he just has dumb beliefs, so presumably whoever programmed those in was dumb.
 
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I work for a very large company, part of which is one of the largest health insurers in the US. I now get to sit on a committee that will be trying to figure out what to do regarding a potential new ACA.
Tempering my own feelings will be interesting as we discuss this at work.
 
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The old ACA, the new ACA, both are about globalist control and destroying the market into a single payer system.
 
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